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Please help me diagnosis this problem!!
    #143730 - 11/11/08 09:41 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

Hydro Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
Seeds

2. How old are your plants?
56 days old

3. How tall are your plants?
About 13-18 inches tall

4. What type of hydro system are you using?
drip

5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using?
GH Flora Nova at 1100 PPM.

6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution?
try to keep it around 6.0

7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water?
230 ppm

8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution?
1110

9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution?
approx 20 C

10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?
Nope 

11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check?
Nope

12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
drip system - watered 2x a day for 30 minutes of at a time with a continuous stream during waterings.

13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")


14. How close are your lights to the plants?
about 3 inches

15. What size is your grow space in square feet?
Enough for now...


16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
Low humidity - 20% and temp stays around 75

17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
NO!  I WILL KILL THEM!!!!!!!BUGS MAKE ME CRAZY!!

18. How much experience do you have growing?
This be my maiden voyage, yar!

The problem is that the tips of the leaves are starting to yellow and brown.  I also notice this happening along the sides of some of the leaves too.  One of the leaves pictured actually has a hole in it. It looks like a piece of it was just cut out with scissors and flipped up.  I don't see any bugs around.  I am only using FloraNova and have not added anything other than ph down solution.  I am about to flush the tray out with regular water and change the rez out for a cleaner one. 









I was gone for 8 days and you can see how much nutrient solution was lost in those 8 days here. 




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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #144002 - 11/12/08 03:28 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

Anyone want to take a stab at this?


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #144058 - 11/12/08 06:35 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

I see no browning......>.>


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #144120 - 11/12/08 08:35 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

lol, it's there.  trust me.  that's probably the best picture I could take of it too.  It appears to be identical today.  I didn't notice any further development of the browning.  I did move it about 2 inches farther away from the light last night.  :shrug:


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #144291 - 11/13/08 03:14 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

I think you're just paranoid

If you think you see browning (burning of the leaves) raise your lights and ease up on feeding is the general rule for larger plants. Raise your lights a bit(I don't think you need to)? I'd assume your not giving any nutrients do that seedling, correct?

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DOH, having an unknown ppm for seedlings isnt good. Drop it down to plain water if your worried about burning your plants.


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: captain.koons]
    #144899 - 11/14/08 09:28 PM (8 years, 19 days ago)

yeah, i dropped it down to just water - still ph'd at 5.8 though.  Here's an update of the ailing infant.  It's gotten worse.  :frown: 






I think i've moved past paranoia.


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #144900 - 11/14/08 09:30 PM (8 years, 19 days ago)

I'm only a week into this thing and im killin my babies already.  :frown:


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #144901 - 11/14/08 09:30 PM (8 years, 19 days ago)

maybe you just needs to wait it out... if the lights arent too hot and your not giving too much nutes i dont see what else u can do at this stage.


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: captain.koons]
    #144907 - 11/14/08 09:45 PM (8 years, 19 days ago)

Aight, the root structure was pretty good when i put it in the bigger rockwool piece.  That's a good sign, i suppose.


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #144908 - 11/14/08 09:50 PM (8 years, 19 days ago)

Maybe PM your thread to one of the grower mods to help you? :o


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: captain.koons]
    #145221 - 11/15/08 07:41 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

you shouldn't fert your plant till it has 2-3 sets of weed leaves. . . . then it is in vegetative stage; you could be burning the sensitive new root system causing the discoloring due to nute burn


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: t0ad]
    #145312 - 11/16/08 12:32 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

noted.  lol, i flushed the cube out last night and it looks better already.  I also moved it a bit farther away from the lights.  The base of the first true leaves have become much larger and very green.  Let's hope that progresses.  thanks for your input guys!


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #145374 - 11/16/08 02:19 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

not that it matters at this point how close your lights are you probably dont need to move them up.. they're floursecents so that distance you posted is probably safe.


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: captain.koons]
    #145397 - 11/16/08 09:49 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

3 inches away from the plant with a floro should be perfect actually.


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: elaspeinreason]
    #172403 - 12/29/08 08:56 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I have edited the first post to include up-to-date information.  I have new problems.  can anyone help?  If you need more info or additional pictures just let me know.  I'd like to solve this issue before I begin flowering them.


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #172435 - 12/29/08 09:35 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

um, you've been gone for 8 days

could the ppm of your nutrient solution be stronger than you thinks?

the first picture looks like you got some little fuckers crawling on that leaf.


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: captain.koons]
    #172831 - 12/30/08 03:23 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I use a ppm reader that I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of.  I have done thorough visual inspections and have found no bugs, flies, or insects.  Last night i changed the rez water and did a flush with pure h20.  And yes, i was gone for 8 days.  :P


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #172860 - 12/30/08 05:23 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

maybe give Magash a pm? he's nice and helpful

he may be busy though, I think he's ironing all his money.


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: captain.koons]
    #172987 - 12/30/08 09:24 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Hold on a sec here, are you saying that the nutrient solution can drop like it did in the pic but the ppm isn't going up. (if that is the case the meter is way way off)


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Re: Sprout is in trouble?! [Re: Magash]
    #172993 - 12/30/08 09:29 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

that's what I thought

but generally speaking I make lots of mistakes

he did say he changed his nutrients and flushed with pure h20.. I guess make sure you top off your reservoir with h2o and possibly nutrient solution so long as you don't go over your desired ppm.


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