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    #120756 - 09/11/08 05:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

is there a pf tek but for mj? ...that would be sweeet.


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Re: pf tek [Re: Calibrate]
    #120795 - 09/11/08 06:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

what? no! this kind of growing is considerably more expensive and involved to do it correctly.


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Re: pf tek [Re: saltatory]
    #120817 - 09/11/08 08:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

im sure there is a way.
dont be so closed minded.


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Re: pf tek (moved)
    #121095 - 09/12/08 07:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

This thread was moved from Soil & Organic Nutrients.

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Please please please read the forum descriptions before posting. The soil cultivation sub-forum doesn't have anything to do with this topic, so it belongs in the main cultivation forum. :wink:


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Re: pf tek [Re: Calibrate]
    #121099 - 09/12/08 09:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Calibrate said:
is there a pf tek but for mj? ...that would be sweeet.




What a coincidence, dude. I was thinking about a pf tek for growing just last night. I was reading some stuff about what to do to prepare to take the site to the next level, to get ready for advertising and an influx of posters, and I was thinking about what has helped make the Shroomery so great when it comes to cultivation... and then the PF Tek came to mind! Considering how complex growing can be and how many different variables there can be, and the lack of straightforwardness a lot of guides have, I started thinking about a way to lay out something like the PF tek, where any newbie who doesn't yet understand the more complex aspects of growing can make a setup that works for them, a simple and failproof formula. I think we'll definitely be working to put something like this together.

Seeing you post this the next day really gives me the impression I was onto something. Just don't think you gave me the idea! :razz: :wink:


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Re: pf tek [Re: Sirius]
    #121116 - 09/12/08 11:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

imasmoker learned how to by-pass his ban!


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Re: pf tek [Re: captain.koons]
    #121121 - 09/12/08 11:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What are you talking about?


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Re: pf tek [Re: Sirius]
    #121122 - 09/12/08 11:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Calibrate said:
is there a pf tek but for mj? ...that would be sweeet.




What a coincidence, dude. I was thinking about a pf tek for growing just last night. I was reading some stuff about what to do to prepare to take the site to the next level, to get ready for advertising and an influx of posters, and I was thinking about what has helped make the Shroomery so great when it comes to cultivation... and then the PF Tek came to mind! Considering how complex growing can be and how many different variables there can be, and the lack of straightforwardness a lot of guides have, I started thinking about a way to lay out something like the PF tek, where any newbie who doesn't yet understand the more complex aspects of growing can make a setup that works for them, a simple and failproof formula. I think we'll definitely be working to put something like this together.

Seeing you post this the next day really gives me the impression I was onto something. Just don't think you gave me the idea! :razz: :wink:




oh i totally gave you the idea. :omgawesome:
well...the inspiration at least!  :jointsmile: 

but yes, please do. the only thing thats gonna be extremely different is the fact that p. cubensis strains are all supposedly the same "strength" in potency, no matter the substrate material.

Ive been reading the FAQ and things such as that...and mj is probably going to be a lot harder to grow.
I have a few mush grows under my belt, and know my fair share about it....but id love to learn to grow the sweet mary, fool-proof style.

When you do write this "Sirius Tek" we'll call it now, because Psilocybe Fantaticus is pf, you shouldnt skimp on potency or anything.

Just write a guide like you were writing it for someone who has absolutely no knowledge what-so-ever on growing ANYTHING.

When you tell someone to do something in it, tell them why...and what it does.

I'm sure there are some people that would like to just follow the tek like sheep and not care why...but do it for people like me. :smile:


well, im hella stoned right now....just woke up too so....i dont know, good luck.


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Re: pf tek [Re: Calibrate]
    #121180 - 09/12/08 02:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

the main problem you're going to run into is not so much potency but yield.  With cfls and proper genetics you can make so dank bud but your yield will be significantly lower than using a hid light for flowering.  hid's cost money that most first time growers either a) dont have or b) aren't willing to invest in for a first time grow.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: pf tek [Re: THEBats]
    #121523 - 09/13/08 12:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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THEBats said:
the main problem you're going to run into is not so much potency but yield.  With cfls and proper genetics you can make so dank bud but your yield will be significantly lower than using a hid light for flowering.  hid's cost money that most first time growers either a) dont have or b) aren't willing to invest in for a first time grow.




And that's completely fine. Many first time mushroom growers cant afford a pressure cooker which is needed for growing on any type of "bulk spawn" such as rye, or wbs. The thing theyre stuck with is brf/verm cakes to grow on...which grow slower because you can't shake them to increase the speed of mycelial growth and the yield is much lower. Potency I'm sure is the same though.

For those that like to skim-read:  Bottom line is, its the same thing for growing mushrooms.


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Re: pf tek [Re: Calibrate]
    #121532 - 09/13/08 01:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

THEBats said:
the main problem you're going to run into is not so much potency but yield.  With cfls and proper genetics you can make so dank bud but your yield will be significantly lower than using a hid light for flowering.  hid's cost money that most first time growers either a) dont have or b) aren't willing to invest in for a first time grow.




And that's completely fine. Many first time mushroom growers cant afford a pressure cooker which is needed for growing on any type of "bulk spawn" such as rye, or wbs. The thing theyre stuck with is brf/verm cakes to grow on...which grow slower because you can't shake them to increase the speed of mycelial growth and the yield is much lower. Potency I'm sure is the same though.

For those that like to skim-read:  Bottom line is, its the same thing for growing mushrooms.




true however you would be yielding significantly less for the same amount of time put in.  IMO it's not worth it to not use at least some form of hps during flowering.  we could still setup some kind of pftek if you will however I think the OG grow FAQ was epic enough we should just upload it here and make additions to it as needed.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: pf tek [Re: THEBats]
    #121557 - 09/13/08 02:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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THEBats said:
Quote:

Calibrate said:
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THEBats said:
the main problem you're going to run into is not so much potency but yield.  With cfls and proper genetics you can make so dank bud but your yield will be significantly lower than using a hid light for flowering.  hid's cost money that most first time growers either a) dont have or b) aren't willing to invest in for a first time grow.




And that's completely fine. Many first time mushroom growers cant afford a pressure cooker which is needed for growing on any type of "bulk spawn" such as rye, or wbs. The thing theyre stuck with is brf/verm cakes to grow on...which grow slower because you can't shake them to increase the speed of mycelial growth and the yield is much lower. Potency I'm sure is the same though.

For those that like to skim-read:  Bottom line is, its the same thing for growing mushrooms.




true however you would be yielding significantly less for the same amount of time put in.  IMO it's not worth it to not use at least some form of hps during flowering.  we could still setup some kind of pftek if you will however I think the OG grow FAQ was epic enough we should just upload it here and make additions to it as needed.




yeah...when following the pf tek...each cake will only produce approximately an 8th of shrooms. so...2 1/2ish months for an 8th of mushrooms per cake....thats not very good yield to me.

how much do you think one could yield per plant without using a hps light?

im sure after one were to accomplish their first grow theyd feel a lot more obligated to have a more bountiful crop the 2nd time around.


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Re: pf tek [Re: Calibrate]
    #122584 - 09/15/08 02:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i think it would be easyer then growing mushies. but more expencive to start out. i guess it would be the easyest indoor  soil grow right? here is how i would do it

choosing a light
seed germination
veg
sexing
bud
drying


choosing a light: i think is the most important part of any indoor grow
i think that a 400 watt would do nicely for flowering. maybe some cheap cfls to get the little guys goin.

seed germination: rap it in a wet paper wait acouple of days

veg: time frame


sexing: balls=males=bad  hairs=females=good


bud: time frame


drying: how to trim, cool dark room low humitidy 2-3 weeks


or

aful tec

take a seed put it in the grownd in late april early may and water.


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Re: pf tek [Re: Calibrate]
    #122635 - 09/15/08 05:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Calibrate said:
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THEBats said:
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Calibrate said:
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THEBats said:
the main problem you're going to run into is not so much potency but yield.  With cfls and proper genetics you can make so dank bud but your yield will be significantly lower than using a hid light for flowering.  hid's cost money that most first time growers either a) dont have or b) aren't willing to invest in for a first time grow.




And that's completely fine. Many first time mushroom growers cant afford a pressure cooker which is needed for growing on any type of "bulk spawn" such as rye, or wbs. The thing theyre stuck with is brf/verm cakes to grow on...which grow slower because you can't shake them to increase the speed of mycelial growth and the yield is much lower. Potency I'm sure is the same though.

For those that like to skim-read:  Bottom line is, its the same thing for growing mushrooms.




true however you would be yielding significantly less for the same amount of time put in.  IMO it's not worth it to not use at least some form of hps during flowering.  we could still setup some kind of pftek if you will however I think the OG grow FAQ was epic enough we should just upload it here and make additions to it as needed.




yeah...when following the pf tek...each cake will only produce approximately an 8th of shrooms. so...2 1/2ish months for an 8th of mushrooms per cake....thats not very good yield to me.

how much do you think one could yield per plant without using a hps light?

im sure after one were to accomplish their first grow theyd feel a lot more obligated to have a more bountiful crop the 2nd time around.




not if you do a simple 50/50 casing.  really it's not just that your yield will be low but the buds you will have won't be dense at all.  Also IME it takes a little less than 2 months to see results via the pftek. 


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: pf tek [Re: THEBats]
    #122684 - 09/15/08 08:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I did the math and to do a great indoor grow its gonna cost anywhere from 600+... assuming your buying best of the best equipment. And if you have the money, the space, and your not going to get caught then it really is fullproof to grow good bud.

I saw a pretty great guide on youtube.

Watch all the videos in order. part 1-7. then volume 2 part 1-7.

If you follow these videos to a T its cake.

Itll be a little more work then the PF tek, but its not as complicated as it seems.

And also, just to add, i think growing bud is a whole lot easier than the PF tek, because, yes it is more work, but its harder to mess up. With the PF tek theres so many instances where theres the possability of contaminating your jars its not even right. Weed doesnt really have that problem.

You could over water or under water or it might not be getting enough nutrients but thats on you. With contaminating the PF tek jars, its impossible to see contams until after they hit so you really dont have any control over that.


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Re: pf tek [Re: NiCKh609]
    #122940 - 09/16/08 12:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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And also, just to add, i think growing bud is a whole lot easier than the PF tek, because, yes it is more work, but its harder to mess up. With the PF tek theres so many instances where theres the possability of contaminating your jars its not even right. Weed doesnt really have that problem.




growing mushrooms is infinitely easier then cultivating quality cannabis.


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Re: pf tek [Re: coda]
    #123032 - 09/16/08 04:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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growing mushrooms is infinitely easier then cultivating quality cannabis.



you said it Coda.....If you want good bud a HID lighting  is key!(well as far as my experience).you can do just about anything with pot once its sprouted.Some light, some water , some nute and you'll get .......some bud.  THE better you control the variables the better the pot. Just like mushies ......if you spawn wbs to h poo you WILL get more and better mushies than with the PF  tek, just like if you grow pot in the soil from your back yard with a incandesent bulb you'll get lesser results than a plant in a great compost, w/1000w hps,  and a co2 system. you can grow pot anyway you want but it depends on what you are expecting to get from it. If I'm rammbling ingnore me .................


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Re: pf tek [Re: pornorob]
    #123818 - 09/18/08 10:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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not if you do a simple 50/50 casing.  really it's not just that your yield will be low but the buds you will have won't be dense at all.  Also IME it takes a little less than 2 months to see results via the pftek. 




but that would be taking it a step further...and would no longer be following the pf tek. :wink:


alright so i got about 10 bag seeds from an oz of good bud today. that means i need this tek! haha.

I figured i could just pick up some cfl's and by the time i need the hps light ill be able to afford it.


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Re: pf tek [Re: NiCKh609]
    #123999 - 09/19/08 02:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I did the math and to do a great indoor grow its gonna cost anywhere from 600+... assuming your buying best of the best equipment. And if you have the money, the space, and your not going to get caught then it really is fullproof to grow good bud.

I saw a pretty great guide on youtube.

Watch all the videos in order. part 1-7. then volume 2 part 1-7.

If you follow these videos to a T its cake.

Itll be a little more work then the PF tek, but its not as complicated as it seems.

And also, just to add, i think growing bud is a whole lot easier than the PF tek, because, yes it is more work, but its harder to mess up. With the PF tek theres so many instances where theres the possability of contaminating your jars its not even right. Weed doesnt really have that problem.

You could over water or under water or it might not be getting enough nutrients but thats on you. With contaminating the PF tek jars, its impossible to see contams until after they hit so you really dont have any control over that.




great videos. thank you for sharing.


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Re: pf tek [Re: Calibrate]
    #124244 - 09/20/08 08:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Your welcome. I havent grown any bud yet, but i will be in a while and those videos were really informative.


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