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kidaihaun - Bottom line
    #105408 - 08/07/08 11:10 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The fact is - every time he posts, it's either child porn or his lust for Asian women.

Sure, the Asian women posts maybe be harmless, but they do get annoying after awhile.
His child porn posts are a major threat to this site's operation, however.

If he were to return, there's no doubt that he would continue to do these posts.
Why take that chance? Let him find some other site to do that shit.

It doesn't matter if you personally feel that child porn is OK.
That fact is - it's against the law, and can be used against us.

Allowing him to come back is not a good idea.
Any ideas to the contrary should be tossed.


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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: andyistic]
    #105411 - 08/07/08 11:11 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

But Ferris says we's be descriminatin'!!!!1!!!!11!


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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sativus]
    #105412 - 08/07/08 11:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

When the Law says that kiddie porn on publicly-viewable forums is OK, then I'll consider Ferris' opinions.

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: andyistic]
    #105415 - 08/07/08 11:14 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I agree.  Risking the freedon & operation of the Growery to give him a (fifth) "second chance" is retarded.


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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sativus]
    #105418 - 08/07/08 11:24 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

did he sseriously post cp?  i thought that was just a running joke on here....

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: yellownotepad]
    #105423 - 08/07/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Not a joke - he really did it, otherwise, he would not have been banned.

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: andyistic]
    #105426 - 08/07/08 11:31 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I've just figured something that sickens me.  You remember how his attitude to breast feeding, I bet he was turned on not by the breast but by the feeding infant child.

Cringe factor nine.


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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: yellownotepad]
    #105429 - 08/07/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

what the fuck???? why would there even be a debate on banning him??!!  i've dealt with shit like this in my personal life and this kind of person is very sick and demented.  get that shit out of the fucking growery WTF

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: yellownotepad]
    #105434 - 08/07/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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yellownotepad said:
what the fuck???? why would there even be a debate on banning him??!!




Ferris tells us that it's better to give him an outlet for posting cp so he doesn't start raping t3h kiddies.

Edit: Just saw - apparently Ferris now acknowledges that this is not a good option.


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Edited by Sativus (08/07/08 11:42 AM)

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sativus]
    #105448 - 08/07/08 11:58 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

it doesnt work like that.  someone who is into CP doesn't have a concept of boundaries....or they wouldnt be into CP.  letting him post here is tantamount to condoning his behavior when it is something this vile.  while generally speaking its proper to tolerate those different than you, exploiting defenseless creatures like children and animals is inexcusable and not something to be tolerated by anyone, especially not a forum dedicated to activity that is already walking the line.

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: yellownotepad]
    #105451 - 08/07/08 12:04 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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yellownotepad said:
it doesnt work like that.  someone who is into CP doesn't have a concept of boundaries....or they wouldnt be into CP.  letting him post here is tantamount to condoning his behavior when it is something this vile.  while generally speaking its proper to tolerate those different than you, exploiting defenseless creatures like children and animals is inexcusable and not something to be tolerated by anyone, especially not a forum dedicated to activity that is already walking the line.




Maybe they are into child porn because they were sexual abused? Or had sexual experiences at a young age.

Could be anything, I wouldnt get mad at these people, not always their fault. Being human we're pretty fucked up to start with. And morals arent universal, everyone is different and every culture

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: zippo420]
    #105454 - 08/07/08 12:10 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

There's a tribe where the pre-adolescent boys perform fellatio on the adult males.  They believe that you need to consume enough semen to become a man.  Once the child hits puberty, they know he's had enough semen.

While we would generally consider this sexual abuse, they see it in a very different cultural light.

Not justifying pedophilia or anything, just thought that was germane to zippo's point.


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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sativus]
    #105456 - 08/07/08 12:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

We could ask Y to host this site over in that tribal village.

Then we'll invite Kid back here.

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: andyistic]
    #105458 - 08/07/08 12:14 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: zippo420]
    #105500 - 08/07/08 12:45 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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zippo420 said:


Maybe they are into child porn because they were sexual abused? Or had sexual experiences at a young age.

Could be anything, I wouldnt get mad at these people, not always their fault. Being human we're pretty fucked up to start with. And morals arent universal, everyone is different and every culture




that's all well and good but it is no reason to tolerate it.  its not about being angry, to me its a matter of being disgusted and not being ok with that kind of behavior.  i agree with what you're saying about why he may be that way, but that doesnt change the fact that it is wrong.  if a murderer was beaten by his dad, does that make the crime any less?  no.  if you sympathize that is alright, and your choice, but it still doesnt change the current fact that children are defenseless and sexually innocent creatures, and should stay that way.  i have very close personal contact with what happens when children are abused, i know how these things end up.

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: zippo420]
    #105624 - 08/07/08 04:13 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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zippo420 said:

Maybe they are into child porn because they were sexual abused? Or had sexual experiences at a young age.

Could be anything, I wouldnt get mad at these people, not always their fault. Being human we're pretty fucked up to start with. And morals arent universal, everyone is different and every culture




Fuck that shit. I got punched when I was a kid by another kid, should I be able to hit anyone i want? Morals aren't universal but fucked up shit is.

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: ezKiel]
    #105628 - 08/07/08 04:15 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ezKiel said:
Morals aren't universal but fucked up shit is.




Then how do you respond to the tribe of cocksucking preteens?


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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: andyistic]
    #105909 - 08/07/08 10:17 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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andyistic said:
The fact is - every time he posts, it's either child porn or his lust for Asian women.

Sure, the Asian women posts maybe be harmless, but they do get annoying after awhile.
His child porn posts are a major threat to this site's operation, however.

If he were to return, there's no doubt that he would continue to do these posts.
Why take that chance? Let him find some other site to do that shit.

It doesn't matter if you personally feel that child porn is OK.
That fact is - it's against the law, and can be used against us.

Allowing him to come back is not a good idea.
Any ideas to the contrary should be tossed.




I agree.  Well said.  I have never seen any child porn stuff, but tbh i usually skip his posts.  But that stuff really shouldn't be tolerated.  Zero tolerance is what i'd say.  Especially since this is a relatively new site.


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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #105913 - 08/07/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

To the tribe of cock sucking preteens I would 1)Slap the cocks out of their mouths and 2)Point to all the cultures where boys grow up to be "men" without swallowing several cups of semen over their adolescent lives. >.<

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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #105914 - 08/07/08 10:29 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

So the fact that other cultures developed differently means you have the right to destroy theirs?  Sounds like colonial America.


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