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OfflinePetergriffin467
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Anyone get chest pains after smoking ?
    #103613 - 08/05/08 10:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

When it happens its about 20 minutes or so after Im done smoking and then can come and go for an hour.  Ill be fine and then take a breath and get this stabbing pain to where I can't inhale and feels like I can't breath and then it goes away as fast as it came.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #103615 - 08/05/08 10:30 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

that's kind of weird man. maybe you should lay off smoking


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #103623 - 08/05/08 10:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

This is BATS's friend. I get chest pain and tingling on my face and arms when I smoke. Do you have any panic disorders/anxiety? That's what causes it for me.

Ended up having to stop smoking altogether but it's not that difficult when it causes that kinda shit to happen.

I'd get it checked out by a doctor either way.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #103626 - 08/05/08 10:35 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Kinda sounds like a diaphragm issue... I dunno :shrug:


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: THEBats]
    #103627 - 08/05/08 10:35 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i wouldn't mention to your doctor that you smoke weed. my friend supposedly did this and the doctor informed her insurance company who dropped her. now the bitch can't get health insurance.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: usg543]
    #103634 - 08/05/08 10:37 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, chances are it's related to the deep inhalations, not the actual smoking of cannabis.  Unless you've got a chill doctor, telling them you smoke weed is just a ticket to them writing your problem off as drug-related, rather than figuring out what's wrong.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Sativus]
    #103640 - 08/05/08 10:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, chances are it's related to the deep inhalations, not the actual smoking of cannabis. 




I think thats it  I kind of have a bad habit of taking a huge hit everytime and holding it in.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #103705 - 08/05/08 11:32 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I would bet its the deep inhalations too.  I get sharp chest pains every once in a while when I try to take a huge hit and hold it in.  Happens more often with vapor than with smoke as I can hold the vapor in much longer and inhale it much deeper.  I'm healthy enough that I don't believe it's heart problems unless its genetic.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: usg543]
    #103708 - 08/05/08 11:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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i wouldn't mention to your doctor that you smoke weed. my friend supposedly did this and the doctor informed her insurance company who dropped her. now the bitch can't get health insurance.



i think that may be a big reason why i haven't filled out my health insurance papers yet.  kind of iffy about mentioning that i'm a prescribed marijuana smoker


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #103709 - 08/05/08 11:37 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

It's just your lungs protesting the abuse. Cut back on smoking everything and I'll bet it goes away. If it doesn't, maybe you ought to see a doc.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Toiletduk]
    #103714 - 08/05/08 11:44 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I think it probably has more to do with the liter of semen that's currently occupying his breathing passages.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Sativus]
    #103749 - 08/06/08 12:51 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Probably lung cancer, sorry d00d


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #103751 - 08/06/08 12:52 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Petergriffin467 said:
When it happens its about 20 minutes or so after Im done smoking and then can come and go for an hour.  Ill be fine and then take a breath and get this stabbing pain to where I can't inhale and feels like I can't breath and then it goes away as fast as it came.




its the shitty weed youre smoking, theres anthrax spores on it


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: wowitch420]
    #104202 - 08/06/08 12:44 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Im not smoking shitty weed, believe it or not your not the only person on earth who can get good weed dipshit.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #104205 - 08/06/08 12:47 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

no u r


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Sativus]
    #104211 - 08/06/08 12:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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no u r




INVINCIBLE DEFENSE!!!

ontopic: I get chest pains every so often. But its on the right side of my chest so that kind of rules out heart. It doesn't happen that often... and usually in combination with being really tired (which also gives me musclee spasms).


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #104214 - 08/06/08 01:05 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Musclee spasms,    Hahahahahahahhaa, retard.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104219 - 08/06/08 01:10 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Musclee spasms,    Hahahahahahahhaa, retard.




You're trying wayyy too hard.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #104227 - 08/06/08 01:17 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Suck my love musclee.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104237 - 08/06/08 01:30 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Suck my love musclee.




personally i would have held out for a better typo from me.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #104241 - 08/06/08 01:37 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Personally I really don't give a fuck what you would have done.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104245 - 08/06/08 01:50 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

vaporize dank weed ull have zero health problems
but when u do everything right that usually the consequences


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104246 - 08/06/08 01:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Ill stick to smoking dank weed fuck vaporizing.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104247 - 08/06/08 01:53 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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vaporize dank weed ull have zero health problems





You have no medical evidence to back up that claim.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #104248 - 08/06/08 01:53 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

ya i no fuck doing things efficiently right
y get really high when u could just b a little high
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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104249 - 08/06/08 01:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

You could stand to stay away from drugs for awhile.
It may improve your typing.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104250 - 08/06/08 01:56 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

lol ur so wrong i couldnt stand bein away from dr00gz


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104251 - 08/06/08 01:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

If you like vapor thats cool but it not my thing.  If vaporizing was sooooo efficient like you claim then why would people save their vaped remains and still be able to high off of it?


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #104252 - 08/06/08 01:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

if u vape ur herb on max u exhaust the thc yo
rendering the vapor duff useless


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104254 - 08/06/08 02:00 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Coaster said:
vaporize dank weed ull have zero health problems





You have no medical evidence to back up that claim.




Yeah.. coaster obviously doesnt know the 1st thing about weed.

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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #104255 - 08/06/08 02:01 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I like big lung fulls of tasty dank SMOKE!


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #104256 - 08/06/08 02:02 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Coaster knows how to buy and smoke weed doesn't mean he knows everything about it.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104257 - 08/06/08 02:03 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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vaporize dank weed ull have zero health problems
but when u do everything right that usually the consequences



Look at this video, then imagine him (Hashbean) doing the same thing using a vaporizer instead.



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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104261 - 08/06/08 02:07 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yea for real it would be fucking gay.  Hashbean has a volcano and he uses it like once out of all of his vids that should say something about which is better.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104263 - 08/06/08 02:09 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yea smoke is so much tastier and just gives an all around more intense high.  Smoking > vapor


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #104264 - 08/06/08 02:09 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i dont think either is better, they are just fucking there, man.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #104268 - 08/06/08 02:11 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Yea smoke is so much tastier and just gives an all around more intense high.  Smoking > vapor



ya man with ur massive vapor experience who could not agree :rofl2:


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #104270 - 08/06/08 02:12 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Yea for real it would be fucking gay.  Hashbean has a volcano and he uses it like once out of all of his vids that should say something about which is better.




Are you guys really arguing about the best way to smoke!?!

1. Personal Preference.
2. If you only hit a bong for a few months than switch to a vape it will get you FUCKED.
3. If you only vape all the time for a few months and hit a bong you get FUCKED.
4. Vapes have a very nice come up. Take the hit... mild tingle... a few moments later you realize you were just spacing out cause you're retarded from the hit.
5. Bongs can hit very nicely too but are a bit more harsh.

It all depends on what your looking for. And what you like. Getting high is a subjective experience that is a bit different for everyone.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #104273 - 08/06/08 02:14 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

ya thats fairly true but after smoking vapor 24/7 and only vaping the dankest weed u become immune to everything else
i could be taking 6 foot rips right now and not feel it
when u smoke u get like 50% of the thc
when u vape u get like 99%
so no matter how u look at it ur not gonna get higher smoking


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #104275 - 08/06/08 02:16 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Im not arguing I just said I prefer to smoke and hes doing his usual "vaping is better than any other way" bullshit.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #104283 - 08/06/08 02:21 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Bottom line: Do weed however you prefer - completely your choice.

Personally, I enjoy smoking - there's a satisfaction I get that's not available with a vape.

Also, smoking is more enjoyable in a social setting.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104284 - 08/06/08 02:22 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

ya just do wut u prefer man
and if u prefer chest pains from smoking ghetto ass weed the ghetto ass ways then thats coo
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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104289 - 08/06/08 02:24 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

If he's getting chest pains, he needs to cool it for a bit and see a doctor.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104290 - 08/06/08 02:25 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

dr coaster in da house - they should do a show like House MD starring Coaster MD.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104291 - 08/06/08 02:25 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i was getting chest pains when i was bonging it up all day long
once i started vaporizing all the pains floated away
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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: beatyou]
    #104294 - 08/06/08 02:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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dr coaster in da house - they should do a show like House MD starring Coaster MD.



rofllllllllllllllllll
i was talkin 2 my weed doctor bout the cano 4 a long time
i dont hold in my hits longer than 5 seconds now
well i alrdy new not 2 do that but he really convinced me


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104295 - 08/06/08 02:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yea cuz the nice blueberry I just picked up yesterday is ghetto and how is smoking out of a bong ghetto.  You've got a pretty big ego to think that only you can get good weed and that you only know the right way to smoke it.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #104297 - 08/06/08 02:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

hey man if u had tons of weed/acid and got blow jobs everyday ud have a huge ego too


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104301 - 08/06/08 02:28 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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i was getting chest pains when i was bonging it up all day long
once i started vaporizing all the pains floated away
true story



I used to smoke weed every day when I was in school.
Never once did I have chest pains from doing that.
Of course, I was careful not to smoke seeds and stems, either.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104303 - 08/06/08 02:28 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

everyday doesnt mean shit
never being sober
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    #104305 - 08/06/08 02:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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If he's getting chest pains, he needs to cool it for a bit and see a doctor.




Or switch to j's. I don't think its the smoke so much as all the hurt being put on the lungs when you got for the facemelters on the bong. Just take soft hits off the j.


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    #104306 - 08/06/08 02:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i think coaster MD just prescribed you 10mg of 'vag' sir


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    #104309 - 08/06/08 02:33 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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i think coaster MD just prescribed you 10mg of 'vag' sir




psh kidaihuan would take 10mg of vag.

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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104311 - 08/06/08 02:35 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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vaporize dank weed ull have zero health problems





You have no medical evidence to back up that claim.




Common sense tells me that smoking water based vapor is a lot more healthy than smoking combusted plant matter.  I don't need a study to tell me that, although I'm sure if you looked there are in fact studies on this, try google...

I have noticed many people dislike vapor.  I think because there is less peek and more plateau.  Some people like to get really fucking wasted high, vapor gives a more functional, much longer lasting, mentally stimulating high with a better come down when compared to burning the same weed.  Those that are high daily really enjoy the vaporizer because it allows us to be high constantly without having to take naps all day like I would if I was coming down off smoking a blunt or two.  That and it saves money.  You have to get a quality vaporizer though, the cheap ones add too much air too the vapor and you cant make it thick enough.  With the volcano I can make vapor so thick it looks like smoke.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104312 - 08/06/08 02:35 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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hey man if u had tons of weed/acid and got blow jobs everyday ud have a huge ego too




In 2 months when I harvest a a shitload of good weed that I didnt pay 50 an 1/8 for every day like your dumbass does I will still be the same person my ego will not change.


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    #104313 - 08/06/08 02:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

ya i no if i had a bunch of homegrown shwag my ego wouldnt change either


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104330 - 08/06/08 02:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

The only person here who thinks you're the groweries biggest stoner is you.

You're a twat.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104335 - 08/06/08 02:45 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Great white, durban poison, sensi star yep those are all shcwag arent they you dumbfuck


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    #104341 - 08/06/08 02:47 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

u can slap pretty names on any plant it doesnt make it dank


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104343 - 08/06/08 02:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

So only YOU can get dank huh?


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    #104345 - 08/06/08 02:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

if u say so rofl
but the reality of it is any1 can they just need to find the connection


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104346 - 08/06/08 02:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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u can slap pretty names on any plant it doesnt make it dank




You're a fucking retard.  Just the fact that you buy all your weed makes you a joke in my book.

Biggest stoner on the growery?  More like the biggest bullshitter.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104349 - 08/06/08 02:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yea its funny I've started to notice even your gay little "coastys awesome" fan club is starting to not like you much anymore.


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    #104352 - 08/06/08 02:55 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

ya and i noticed that my gay lil fan club never liked u


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104355 - 08/06/08 02:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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u can slap pretty names on any plant it doesnt make it dank




You're a fucking retard.  Just the fact that you buy all your weed makes you a joke in my book.

Biggest stoner on the growery?  More like the biggest bullshitter.




Swallow a couple pills till your nodding hard enough not to type for a few hours. You're a fucking useless troll.

And the names just give you an idea of the potential of the plant and its basic characteristics.

How you grow it is what determines whether its dank or not.


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    #104357 - 08/06/08 02:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Petergriffin, family guy still sucks.

But anyway, you haven't contributed anything to this forum to convince me you know anything about growing good weed. You probably don't know wtf your doing and your weed will be some mediocre harsh shit.

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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: beatyou]
    #104359 - 08/06/08 03:01 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Who are you again?  Oh yea some dipshit who rides my nuts in every thread I make for no reason thats right.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104360 - 08/06/08 03:01 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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u can slap pretty names on any plant it doesnt make it dank




You're a fucking retard.  Just the fact that you buy all your weed makes you a joke in my book.

Biggest stoner on the growery?  More like the biggest bullshitter.




At least we know who the growery's least valued opinion is. go take some more painkillers pussy.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Petergriffin467]
    #104361 - 08/06/08 03:02 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

weres ur gay lil fan club 2 back u up peter
:rofl::rofl2::rofl::rofl2::rofl::rofl2::rofl::rofl2:


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Coaster]
    #104369 - 08/06/08 03:07 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I dont have a fan club and by the looks of it yours is getting smaller by the day.


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    #104372 - 08/06/08 03:09 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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And the names just give you an idea of the potential of the plant and its basic characteristics.

How you grow it is what determines whether its dank or not.




You IGNORANT fuck.  Genetics are EVERYTHING!

You don't grow... YOU DON'T KNOW.


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    #104373 - 08/06/08 03:09 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104380 - 08/06/08 03:12 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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And the names just give you an idea of the potential of the plant and its basic characteristics.

How you grow it is what determines whether its dank or not.




You IGNORANT fuck.  Genetics are EVERYTHING!

You don't grow... YOU DON'T KNOW.




genetic dont mean shit if you don't take care of your plant. and dont confuse my personally not growing with no experiance with growing.

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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #104383 - 08/06/08 03:17 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

starting with champion genetics make for mediocre bud at least

starting with schwagg genetics makes for mediocre bud at best


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Quote:

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Quote:

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And the names just give you an idea of the potential of the plant and its basic characteristics.

How you grow it is what determines whether its dank or not.




You IGNORANT fuck.  Genetics are EVERYTHING!

You don't grow... YOU DON'T KNOW.




genetic dont mean shit if you don't take care of your plant. and dont confuse my personally not growing with no experiance with growing.

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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #104397 - 08/06/08 03:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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ezKiel said:
Quote:

Hanky said:
Quote:

ezKiel said:


And the names just give you an idea of the potential of the plant and its basic characteristics.

How you grow it is what determines whether its dank or not.




You IGNORANT fuck.  Genetics are EVERYTHING!

You don't grow... YOU DON'T KNOW.




genetic dont mean shit if you don't take care of your plant. and dont confuse my personally not growing with no experiance with growing.

fucktard.





You're a fucking moron.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/13280/an/0/page/0


Go and have a look at some real dank.  Without top notch genetics these plants would be worthless no matter how well I look after them.



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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104495 - 08/06/08 04:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/13280/an/0/page/0


Go and have a look at some real dank.  Without top notch genetics these plants would be worthless no matter how well I look after them.





imo those don't look like top notch genetics at all, looks like good plants grown from seed.  Top notch genetics are clone onlys and usually have better calyx to leaf ratios than the plants in those pics.

They do look to be grown very well though, which just proves the point everyone here is trying to make.  growing skill > genetics.  It's not like genetics wont make a difference but it wont matter much if you don't know how to grow is the point.  Most bomb (mids) were I'm at are from excellent clone only genetics from the bay that some idiot didn't dry or flush right making it taste like shit.  If its harsh its not dank.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104514 - 08/06/08 04:56 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Top notch genetics are clone onlys





Hahaha, You're a fucking idiot too.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104515 - 08/06/08 04:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

They're coming in bunches today!


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104526 - 08/06/08 05:01 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Top notch genetics are clone onlys





Hahaha, You're a fucking idiot too.




An ad hominem response with no substance and I'm the idiot? :rolleyes:

Top notch genetics are clone only chosen from at least a thousand plants.  You're plants may by good seeds but top notch seeds does not make for a top notch plant, just the potential for one.  Your plants are obviously some seed, if they are clones they were selected from a single pack of seeds at best.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104536 - 08/06/08 05:06 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

"growing skill > genetics."  This is a total fallacy.  Genetics are infinitely more important than growing technique or skills.

All my plants originally came from seed from which I selected the best to clone from for future generations.

Genetics are EVERYTHING.

As i said in the other thread.  You can't turn a mongrel dog in to a pedigree champion just by feeding it good food.

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    #104542 - 08/06/08 05:11 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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usg543 said:
i wouldn't mention to your doctor that you smoke weed. my friend supposedly did this and the doctor informed her insurance company who dropped her. now the bitch can't get health insurance.



i think that may be a big reason why i haven't filled out my health insurance papers yet.  kind of iffy about mentioning that i'm a prescribed marijuana smoker




Doctor telling the insurance company, that's illegal


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104546 - 08/06/08 05:16 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Clone only strains are usually only slightly better than their seed versions.

seeds can capture any phenotype.
seeds can be just as stable as clones in a side by side comparision (clonez = no genetic variation, seeds 7 generations incrossed = 1% or less genetic variation)

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if they are clones they were selected from a single pack of seeds at best.




hey brilliant one, how many packs does it take to get the prized phenotype???


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    #104555 - 08/06/08 05:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

It only takes 1 seed of course, I'm talking about the odds are at least 1/1000.  And of course it takes skill and/or time to select the right ones, and a fuckload of luck.


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    #104559 - 08/06/08 05:32 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

have you even taken biology?

theres only so many phenotypes man.


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    #104563 - 08/06/08 05:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

His name, chronicbs....  obviously, chronic bull shit.


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    #104585 - 08/06/08 05:44 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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His name, chronicbs....  obviously, chronic bull shit.




It's more in reference to what I have to deal with from people like you. :grin:


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His name, chronicbs....  obviously, chronic bull shit.




It's more in reference to what I have to deal with from people like you. :grin:




Show us some pics from your grows.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104608 - 08/06/08 06:06 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

with a picture that says "chronicb" or "growery" in it.

I'll do the same if you do :o


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    #104613 - 08/06/08 06:13 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Show us some pics from your grows.




Ok douche







Top is sour diesel grown from a clone from the bay, bottom two are omega diesel grown from seed.  More in the gallery were those are from if you want to see.

I don't grow at the moment though. If I was I would renew my medical card to be safe.  Not to mention I wouldn't brag about it like a child on internet forums...


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    #104616 - 08/06/08 06:19 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I see nothing.  LOL


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104658 - 08/06/08 06:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Can anyone else not see my pics or just the douche?

In any case here is a link to the gallery.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104661 - 08/06/08 06:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Didn't you stop to think that icmag doesn't allow hotlinking?


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    #104675 - 08/06/08 06:56 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not a member of icmag. That could be anyones gallery.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104685 - 08/06/08 07:02 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm not a member of icmag. That could be anyones gallery.




Look at the name, read the old posts, its me alright.

It would be even easier for some smuck to steal someones pics and put their own watermark on it.  Occam's razor please...  A little common sense goes a long way.

There's no point in me arguing with a child anymore, you can't win an argument with a child because they don't even try to understand what you are trying to argue....  You just see this as us vs. them.  You try and bully with your friends.. It's pathetic hankey, you can't stand to have a real debate about anything.  You only care about winning the argument reality be damned.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104691 - 08/06/08 07:08 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I could say exactly the same things about you, with your selective quoting and general pig headedness.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104741 - 08/06/08 07:47 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Even if you did have  a gallery and actually did grow weed.

It doesn't mean your information is correct, obviously we can't say you know nothing but you're bit about elite genetics being in clones and growers skill determining level of dankiness.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: captain.koons]
    #104819 - 08/06/08 08:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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It doesn't mean your information is correct, obviously we can't say you know nothing but you're bit about elite genetics being in clones and growers skill determining level of dankiness.




I think you need some help with your reading comprehension...  I'll sum the argument up for you nice and simple.

My side:  imo grower skill is more important than genetics.  It's close, maybe something like 45% genetics 55% growing conditions, but I still think grower skill is more important for good dank bud.  I understand how some can say genetics are more important, and they are entittled to their opinion, but to continually say its everything and grower skill doesn't matter is incredibly ignorant.  At most it's 60% genetics 40% how it is grown, but I still believe how it is grown is more important.

Hankey's side:

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Hanky said:
How you grow weed has almost nothing to do with potency and only effects yeild.





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Hanky said:
You IGNORANT fuck.  Genetics are EVERYTHING!





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Hanky said:
"growing skill > genetics."  This is a total fallacy.  Genetics are infinitely more important than growing technique or skills.





etc.. etc..  Not to mention how you get your chumps to all take a dump on me just because I differ in opinion.  All three of you are beyond pathetic.  You can't even talk like an adult.  You're a bunch of children probably.  Sad thing is you are all probably way older than me (21) and If I had to guess hankey is likely living off the government on disability..  I have an in-law who gets those 80mg vics to get high and goes to the hospital twice a week for his shots and is on disability collecting 1500 a month, but he is on disability because of drug use.

Fucking ignorant pathetic fucks all three of you...


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104837 - 08/06/08 09:10 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I'm 40 years old don't call me immature!

Is it not true that no matter how you grow a plant as long as you harvest it on time it will be as potent as it should be?

Is it not true that if you neglect a plant it will be dwarfed in size and yield?


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: captain.koons]
    #104843 - 08/06/08 09:14 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Wait - you're 40? Seriously?


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104846 - 08/06/08 09:17 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Does my age matter?


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: captain.koons]
    #104847 - 08/06/08 09:17 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm 40 years old don't call me immature!

Is it not true that no matter how you grow a plant as long as you harvest it on time it will be as potent as it should be?

Is it not true that if you neglect a plant it will be dwarfed in size and yield?




Read what I wrote, your making straw mans.  I made my position clear enough.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104850 - 08/06/08 09:18 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

OK fuck face! 

You claim growing skills are more important.

if you're right then please explain to me why we even bother breeding strains?

Why do we bother having seed banks?

Why have a cannabis cup for the WINNING STRAIN?
Why isn't it awarded to the grower?

You're a stupid ignorant fuck.

Growing skills and method would effect THC content of a given strain by no more than 5% And I don't mean the difference between 15%THC and 20% THC.  I mean that if a strain produces on average 20% THC then growing method will only produce a 5% difference in that 20% that's a difference of 1% total THC content.


You're a TARD, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104851 - 08/06/08 09:19 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Okay so..

If you grew seeds out of mexican brick

and

If I told my 14 yr old nephew how to grow weed vaguely in 30minutes and provided him with say some awesome seeds

you guarentee your product will be better come harvest time?


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104852 - 08/06/08 09:21 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Read what I wrote, your making straw mans.  I made my position clear enough.



Oh ChroncTard - I think we had enough here.
It's obvious you screwed up, and no amount of blab from you can save your ass.
You may as well just stop now.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104853 - 08/06/08 09:22 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

what happened?


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104856 - 08/06/08 09:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Hanky said:

if you're right then please explain to me why we even bother breeding strains?





I never said genetics weren't important, just imo not as important as proper growing technique for true dank buds.

Your comprehension is obviously severely limited so I'm going to go ahead and end this conversation,  I think the earlier posts speak for themselves if you want to try reading this thread again...


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104863 - 08/06/08 09:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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andyistic said:
Oh ChroncTard - I think we had enough here.
It's obvious you screwed up, and no amount of blab from you can save your ass.
You may as well just stop now.




I'm starting to think I'm just being troll'ed. I really don't believe all three of you can be this stupid, hankey probably though...  You never even refute anything you just attack me personally.  How have I screwed up?  Dig up some quotes from my posts, use my words not what you think I said with your piss poor comprehension to refute me...  All three of you are fucking trolls. 

Anyone else besides these three stooges want to chime in this thread?


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104864 - 08/06/08 09:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

How am I a troll when I was one of the first to register here?

Usually, the trolls come in later and annoy the veterans.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104866 - 08/06/08 09:45 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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How am I a troll when I was one of the first to register here?

Usually, the trolls come in later and annoy the veterans.




I recommend you read an article on logical fallacys.  I think it would really help your reading comprehension.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104868 - 08/06/08 09:48 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Fallacies. :nonono:

You didn't answer my question, Mr. Logic.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Chronicbs]
    #104869 - 08/06/08 09:50 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Growing technique has almost nothing to do with end result.  If you'd ever actually grown cannabis you'd know that it pretty much grows itself.

Provide water, nutrients, light and air and it'll do the rest.

Cannabis didn't evolve over millions of years relying on humans to coax it along, it does just fine as long as those four basic requirements are provided.

Proof of this is the fact that cannabis can be grown using so many different methods.

You refuse to see the reality.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: andyistic]
    #104871 - 08/06/08 09:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

And besides, we embrace logical fallacies here.  Just today Tang tore the ad-hominem fallacy a new asshole by pointing out that opinions reflect the person who holds them :crazy2:


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104875 - 08/06/08 09:55 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Growing technique has almost nothing to do with end result.  If you'd ever actually grown cannabis you'd know that it pretty much grows itself.

Provide water, nutrients, light and air and it'll do the rest.

Cannabis didn't evolve over millions of years relying on humans to coax it along, it does just fine as long as those four basic requirements are provided.

Proof of this is the fact that cannabis can be grown using so many different methods.

You refuse to see the reality.




I think his issue is that he's looking at it from a different angle: If you don't give the plants nutes, they'll be shitty. If you overdo it, they'll get nute burn.

Does this mean that growing technique is more important than genetics? Of course not.  Genetics have much more to do with the plants final phenotype.

He's just getting hung up on the fact that it's possible to grow shitty weed from good seed by grossly mishandling it.

That, and he seems to be weeping from his enormous gaping vagina because his e-feelings were hurt.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104879 - 08/06/08 10:03 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Hanky said:
Cannabis didn't evolve over millions of years relying on humans to coax it along, it does just fine as long as those four basic requirements are provided.

Proof of this is the fact that cannabis can be grown using so many different methods.

You refuse to see the reality.




It wasn't naturally dank-weed either. You argue too much on an all or nothing basis. Strain is important. But how you grow it is a big part of the equation. Just because you are familiar with how to grow pot doesn't mean it is neccisarilly easy. It requires a certain amount of time and attention to be of decent quality.

So saying it grows itself would refer to the ditchweed you started bitching about in the  1st place.

I still say if I get seeds of mid grade level, they could be grown to be pretty potent. Maybe no Master Kush but still pretty good. On the flipside I could get seeds from some dank and fuck up on the nutes and burn em or have trouble sprouting. There is a lot of variables that come into play.






....
But never mind all that it is only based PURELY ON STRAIN.

You could throw some dank seeds in the Sahara and they would grow awesome. And no matter how much care bagseed will turn out like shit.

That's what it sounds like your saying.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Sativus]
    #104881 - 08/06/08 10:04 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

He hasn't even offered any explanations as to why he thinks he's right.

He's just offered a few percentages with no explanation as to how he came about those figures because he made them up.

He just has to be right because it would hurt him so much to admit he's wrong.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104883 - 08/06/08 10:04 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

wow hanky you really tore him a new e-asshole huh
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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: wowitch420]
    #104884 - 08/06/08 10:07 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

That's not the point.  I hate misinformation when it comes to my favorite plant, that's the point.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #104892 - 08/06/08 10:11 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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That's not the point.  I hate misinformation when it comes to my favorite plant, that's the point.




If you read what he said in context without taking everything as a personal assault on your opinion it was pretty clear he acknowledged the strains importance in the end result. But growing is still a very significant factor.

Bullshit though the percentages may have been. For someone who claims love for the ganj you seem pretty high strung.

It isn't that hard to clarify and back up your own points. That alone will do far more to dispel any bad info and maybe entice more people not to think your such an asshole.

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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #104894 - 08/06/08 10:13 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i agree with hanky, genetics are pretty much everything


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: captain.koons]
    #104898 - 08/06/08 10:22 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Not to me, I'm pushing 40 myself.


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    #104928 - 08/06/08 11:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Not to me, I'm pushing 40 myself.




You're obviously lying. Hanky said it's impossible end of discussion.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #104959 - 08/07/08 12:59 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

You have a lot of opinions for someone who has never grown a plant.  Worthless opinions.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Toiletduk]
    #105014 - 08/07/08 01:46 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Not to me, I'm pushing 40 myself.




I don't think my age matters but I'm mid twenties to early thirties.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: ezKiel]
    #105033 - 08/07/08 01:56 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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It wasn't naturally dank-weed either.




You've obviously never seen some of the pure indicas from the hindu kush, dank as fuck, dripping with resin and totally natural.


Quote:

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Just because you are familiar with how to grow pot doesn't mean it is neccisarilly easy.




Cannabis is one of the easiest plants there is to grow, trained monkeys could grow weed.  As you've never grown a plant you wouldn't know this and you seem to think it's challenging to grow.


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Re: Anyone get chest pains after smoking ? [Re: Hanky]
    #105042 - 08/07/08 02:09 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I was going to say think of the elite landrace strains.

Hindu Kush is going to be on my list of shit to grow asap.

You can plant seeds outside and come back 4 months later and find copius amounts of weed.. that means it's not hard to grow.

Does crossing strains even produce more potent plants? Potency would be genetic related, if you bred hundreds of short people with no recessive genes for tallness you wouldn't get any tall people, what's the difference with weed?

I don't think there is any.


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