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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: Amanita86]
    #839830 - 12/11/19 08:33 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Hey... Where'd ya go!?


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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: poor boy]
    #839839 - 12/11/19 09:09 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

back on the kratom train, feels good


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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: Sham87]
    #839845 - 12/11/19 09:27 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

:highfive:

I don't know what I'd do with out it.


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I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better

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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: Sham87]
    #839847 - 12/11/19 09:29 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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back on the kratom train, feels good




that's awesome,i could literally get 130 pills of the bali or whatever strain from the market near where I go for my social phobia....I just haven't been in the right mindset for it, so I respect it for what it is

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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: Jenny]
    #839861 - 12/12/19 06:18 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I tried it once when I was at my buddy's wedding. But I couldn't tell if it was the 151 or krat.

Shit was gross though.

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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: XUL]
    #839871 - 12/12/19 07:14 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Kratom is the tits and the bubbies. Both.


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Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: poor boy]
    #839873 - 12/12/19 07:16 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

What does it make you feel?

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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: XUL]
    #839875 - 12/12/19 07:18 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Helps with my back pain and sleep.


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I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: poor boy]
    #839904 - 12/12/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

hes a kratom junkie!


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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: Sham87]
    #839915 - 12/12/19 03:05 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Kratom is awesome.:cool:


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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: Sham87]
    #839941 - 12/12/19 07:20 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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hes a kratom junkie!




You're a cock junkie. He loooves the cock.

I'm sick as fuck but need to dose... It's so hard.


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I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: poor boy]
    #839946 - 12/12/19 07:36 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I suffer from a crippling kratom addiction.

Jokes aside, I never used to get wd’s from kratom until my kratom usage overlapped with harmala maoi and ever since then I get wd’s now.  It unlocked something so make sure you never mix the two.


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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: Amanita86]
    #839955 - 12/12/19 11:49 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

harmala maoi?

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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: XUL]
    #839959 - 12/13/19 01:24 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Harmala extracted from Syrian Rue seeds, it’s an maoi.  Maoi’s let shit pass your stomach and into your bloodstream that would otherwise be destroyed by your digestive juices in your stomach.


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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: Amanita86]
    #839967 - 12/13/19 05:17 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I havnt taken any of that but still get wds. I have to dose at least every 4 hours. At times I can push it to 6, but that's it.


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Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: poor boy]
    #839972 - 12/13/19 05:52 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I am purposefully weening off my legal medication because I don't need it anymore.

I go a quarter mg at a time per month. Shit is tough and I only take 1mg. lol. I am down to half a mg now, which is nice. Once I am off this shit, I will be totally free from my "chains." Fucking monthly bills.

A car is hard enough, let alone fucking legal drugs.

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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: XUL]
    #839973 - 12/13/19 06:23 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Legal? What do they have you on?


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I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better

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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: poor boy]
    #839974 - 12/13/19 07:04 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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poor boy said:
I havnt taken any of that but still get wds. I have to dose at least every 4 hours. At times I can push it to 6, but that's it.



What size are your doses?


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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: poor boy]
    #839976 - 12/13/19 07:46 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

1mg klonopin

now down to .5

I know, I know. 1mg.

But still, I tried to go down from 1mg to .5 without going to .75 first, which made me nauseous.

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Re: Figuring out how to make GOOD post content [Re: Amanita86]
    #839978 - 12/13/19 09:17 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Harmala extracted from Syrian Rue seeds, it’s an maoi.  Maoi’s let shit pass your stomach and into your bloodstream that would otherwise be destroyed by your digestive juices in your stomach.




Not quite,

Monoamine Oxidases (MAOs) are enzymes that are typically bound to mitochondrial surfaces, and serve the function of deactivation (through oxidation) of various  amines that act as neurotransmitters. While it is true that MAOs are involved in the regulation of amines taken up by digestion, it does not act in the GI tract to prevent the various digestive mechanisms. MAOs act on the existing amines that are already absorbed from the GI contents. MAOs are found in high amounts in the brain and heart.

Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs) inhibit this action, as the name implies. This can be used to potentiate the effects of certain drugs that are quickly consumed by MAOs, which is why natural sources of MAOIs are used in oral DMT formulations, where the uptake rate of DMT is slow and normally outpaced by the action of the MAOs.

However, MAOIs also disrupt the regulation of amines taken up through the GI tract, as well as regulation of neurotransmitters in the brain. This can present significant risk if not carefully planned out to avoid certain foods or compounds.

The main receptors targeted by the compounds in Kratom are the opioid receptors, where it performs some varying degree of agonism (activation). The strongest action is focused on the kappa-opioid or k-opioid receptor. Studies have shown potential for k-opioid agonism as a treatment for addiction, which combined with the partial agonism of the mu and delta receptors, explains how kratom addiction is harder to achieve, and why kratom withdrawal is usually not as severe as standard opioid addiction and withdrawal.

However, the long-term (>30 min) addiction treatment potential of k-receptor agonism is dependent on the accompanying signal transduction and neurotransmitter regulation actions triggered by the k-receptor agonism. I suspect that by pairing Kratom with Harmala extract, you are bypassing the anti-addiction benefits of Kratom's affinity for k-opioid agonism, while simultaneously decreasing the body's ability to regulate the amines and their associated neurotransmitter releases (e.g. dopamine in the reward pathway), and increasing the longterm effects on the brain that result in addiction and withdrawal.

I think I've read somewhere that some peripheral antagonism between Kratom compounds and the 5-HT2a receptor may result in blood pressure increases, and that these effects can be amplified by combining a MAOI with Kratom. You should probably approach this combo with caution...

...or not, you do you homie :awedance:


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