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Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! 1
#796222 - 10/08/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow. I'm amazed and inspired. There is hope for a better future after all.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: thoughts]
#796252 - 10/08/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: drawde]
#796299 - 10/08/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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very cool video. Hopefully he isn't full of shit.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Big Bear]
#796325 - 10/09/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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He seems legit and determined. I wanna go help.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: thoughts]
#796331 - 10/09/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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He did indeed come across as very sincere.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: drawde]
#796346 - 10/09/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree. I just am skeptical of course.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Big Bear]
#796418 - 10/09/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think the guy's intentions are in question at all, it's whether or not anything will ever become of any of it.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: drawde]
#796419 - 10/09/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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He's challenging some of the richest most powerful industries. And he does have some leverage.
I really hope the water purifiers are used to help California's drought.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: thoughts]
#796424 - 10/09/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Same. Cool idea but I'm curious if its economically viable on a large scale. I like self propelled electricity a lot too.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Big Bear]
#796429 - 10/09/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you mean self perpetuating, or did I miss something?
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Bumble_Dick]
#796431 - 10/09/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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is there a difference? it's an exercise bike you ride to make electricity.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Big Bear]
#796432 - 10/09/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Where is agmotes when you need him?
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Bumble_Dick]
#796433 - 10/09/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bumble_Dick said: Do you mean self perpetuating, or did I miss something?
Did you watch the video?
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: thoughts]
#796434 - 10/09/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nope.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Bumble_Dick]
#796436 - 10/09/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Then yeah, you actually missed a lot, smart guy.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Bumble_Dick]
#796444 - 10/09/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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what's your point? What would agmotes contribute to this particular discussion that would be so enlightening? A fly wheel propels and you power it yourself. Am I missing something here?
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Big Bear]
#796447 - 10/10/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, it could definitely be me. I've got a minimal understanding of the sciences, and am pretty drunk right now. Forgive me, brother bear.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Bumble_Dick]
#796449 - 10/10/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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How about you watch the video since you're so engaged in this thread now.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Bumble_Dick]
#796451 - 10/10/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bumble_Dick said: No, it could definitely be me. I've got a minimal understanding of the sciences, and am pretty drunk right now. Forgive me, brother bear.
I Christmas treed the second half of science on my act. I would have gotten a really good damn score if it wasnt for the science questions. Brutal.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Bumble_Dick] 2
#796490 - 10/10/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bumble_Dick said: Where is agmotes when you need him?
The bike is driving a generator, so human-powered electricity would be a better way to describe it. "Self-propelled electricity" implies that the electricity drives itself, which is impossible.
The flywheel is nothing more than a temporary storage area for kinetic energy (a mechanical capacitor) that smooths out the rotational speed of the assembly under an inconsistent prime mover (the person's pedaling), which improves generator performance and efficiency.
Either way, unless you can do an cost benefit analysis that factors in the energy, money, and waste generated in mining the raw meterial ores, refining, casting/machining, etc. and prove that each machine will operate long enough to completely offset the total cost, then it will be nothing more than a novelty.
More power to the guy though, he is truly an inspiration for all of us...he is trying his best to solve some big problems with the world.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Data] 1
#796492 - 10/10/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for clearing that up
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Bumble_Dick]
#796498 - 10/10/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No probs mang!
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Data]
#796513 - 10/10/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good stuff.
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#796518 - 10/10/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I aim to please
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Data]
#796536 - 10/10/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just watched the doc. Pretty good stuff
That electricity producing bike was cool. If we replaced all the stationary bikes at gyms with these, we could get lots of free power. I feel that most people are too lazy to ride that for a hour a day, even if it did produce electricity for 24hrs
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: P-O]
#796746 - 10/13/15 05:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Id go build a cabin in Alaska....holy shit i could be totally off the grid and have unlimited electricity. Fuck yea im getting one of these things!
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: P-O]
#796826 - 10/13/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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P-O said: Just watched the doc. Pretty good stuff
That electricity producing bike was cool. If we replaced all the stationary bikes at gyms with these, we could get lots of free power. I feel that most people are too lazy to ride that for a hour a day, even if it did produce electricity for 24hrs
Well it's not really for lazy North Americans, it's for the impoverished of the world living without power. I have no doubt that the poorest people in the world would love to use this bike to make themselves power.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Data]
#796829 - 10/13/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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agmotes165 said:
Either way, unless you can do an cost benefit analysis that factors in the energy, money, and waste generated in mining the raw meterial ores, refining, casting/machining, etc. and prove that each machine will operate long enough to completely offset the total cost, then it will be nothing more than a novelty.
I feel that is beside the point. We do many things that do not have a positive cost/benefit under those parameters for reasons of other benefits. It would be a way of propping up the poor, subsidizing them sort of. Regardless of if more energy is used to mine and process all those materials, it doesn't mean that it isn't an efficient way to bring a portion of that energy to them, you know... versus like building all that electrical infrastructure.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: drawde]
#796842 - 10/14/15 05:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hear where you are comin from, and I agree that this is a great option for say a small village, miles away from any other human, where investment in a less efficient system far outweighs the cost to run transmission lines out just for that village.
I also agree that it's that CEO's money, and the fact that he's actually doing something like this with that money is a noble way to spend billions of dollars. I think that it's a temporary solution, and a good one at that, but it will not revolutionize humanity's dependance on energy, and at that scale it would be better to invest resources, refinement energy, and capital toward alternative energy sources.
Just saying, fossil fuels are running out quickly, it won't help anybody if we use up all of our resources building temporary solutions, and ignore the obvious overarching problem coming down the pipeline.
Either way, the bike is a good design for a 'propping up' of isolated or poverty-stricken people. It's a major step, I won't argue with you there.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: Data]
#796843 - 10/14/15 05:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah fasho. Also if you really dialed in that model and made it 'universal', with only a few consumable parts that are easy to replace, it could potentially last generations and produce far more than the input.
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Re: Billions in Change. New doc, must watch! [Re: drawde]
#796845 - 10/14/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That would be something of worth right there, because then it wouldn't become refined material that is discarded in remote locations to rot...but could be regularly recycled. It may even encourage infrastructure upgrades in the area surrounding isolated communites to support part orders and recycling programs (to reduce the total maintenance costs to the consumer).
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