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 UnsureE
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 when to water rockwool 
#673652 - 06/05/13 06:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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How can i tell when to water the rockwool cubes? should i wait till their almost completely dry ti the touch? They're the 2.5 inch cubes and dry on the tops right now, moist when i press my finger in a little.
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SmokeSomeHash
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#673681 - 06/05/13 10:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It depends if theyre in a dome or not but if theyre moist dont water em...let em dry out a lil but not to the point of having wilted plants.
If you have em in a dome you can usually just spray em and thatll be enough. Its easy to over do it.
If you water them too often without letting the top dry a bit you can get algae...happens to me all the time but never really causes a problem.
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UnsureE
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
#674551 - 06/14/13 08:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok and every time i water do i add nutrients? or every other time like with the soil, also when should i transplant them into another cube, there is kind of alot of roots coming out of the bottom, should i wait till the bottom is full of roots?
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UnsureE
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#674553 - 06/14/13 08:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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there not in a dome tho just a tray and the lower leaves are starting to turn yellow and getting a couple little brown spots
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 Hawksresurrection
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#674559 - 06/14/13 10:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Time to put them into your final medium. Whether that's would or hydro or whatever. The leaves are turning because the plants are sucking nutrients out of the leaves to develop the roots. Once roots are showing through you can transplant.
Never apply nutrients to rooting clones. Just ph'd water.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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UnsureE
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ok but what about the plants that are not clones in rockwool? Nutrients everytime?
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#674632 - 06/15/13 04:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well no. Its usually every other. And less is always better, much easier to ramp up the feeding than to try and fix an overfed plant.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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UnsureE
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hey have you ever tried or heard of growing peyote under a hps in a grow tent?
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#674838 - 06/16/13 07:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, and mainly because from my understanding, peyote takes something like 7 years to produce buttons.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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SmokeSomeHash
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Yeah it takes forever. It grows around here, used to munch it all the time in high school.
Some people find em and pot em up and collect em as souveneirs but they take yearssss to produce buttons.
And when we munched em we would eat a shitload of buttons cuz they were like a dollar a piece. A lot of people think just a few bites and youre trippin balls but its far from that.
If youre growing it to eat it and trip youre gonna need a lot of cacti cuttings and a lot of years.
One of my biggest regret is not potting one up years ago when i got them a lot.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
#674860 - 06/16/13 08:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seems like the best way to go about it is to find wild patches, not that I've done that, but my friends who use them in ceremonies do it.
They're native american and have yearly traditional ceremonies. They head down south and harvest a crap load of them, then bring them back up. I was invited once to participate and it was just absolutely incredible.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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SmokeSomeHash
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Yeah weve hunted em before but its been drying up over the years. One of the 3 licensed dealers in the US lives like an hour away. Hes got a huge sign in his front yard PEYOTE FOR SALE so we just go there.
Its become so scarce that theyre really not liking people hunting for it...its a bunch of kids that just wanna get high and unlike shrooms, they dont understand how to harvest just the top butons to allow the bottom ones to continue to grow. They just take it all and thats how its becoming endangered.
The dude that sells is an old school indian and they take that shit real personally. He shouldnt even sell to us but my friend is all spiritual and convinced the dude we were using it for spiritual reasons. Only spoke to him in spanish.
Badass experiences.
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UnsureE
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
#675284 - 06/19/13 04:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Has anyone ever had dark green spots randomly appear on the top of rockwool cubes? is it mold or algae? And when transplanting from a 2.5 inch cube to a hugo 6inch block i just soaked the 6inch then put the dry rooted 2.5inch into the hugo, was i supposed to water after transplanting too?
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#675286 - 06/19/13 05:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why are you doing hydro or something? And yes thats probably algae or mold.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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UnsureE
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yea im just trying rockwool out
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#675288 - 06/19/13 05:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So are they in a hyrdo system?? Or are you just getting past the clone stage.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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SmokeSomeHash
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He said hes transferring em to hugos so yeah hes in hydro...those are 6" cubes
Doesnt say what kind of system though...are you hand watering? Sounds like overwater and youre getting algae.
Rockwools cool but the watering times can vary greatly. If youre doing drip you can water it like 3 times a day, but you can also do ebb n flo and it takes a few days between watering.
Grodan makes some little pamphlets specifically for how to water their different products. Ask your hydro store.
Are you planning on transferring to slabs or will you be flowering in the hugos?
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SmokeSomeHash
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
#675290 - 06/19/13 06:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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And no do not water water the rockwool for like 3 days after transplanting.
You shouldve pre soaked it in some phd water to condition it for like 30 min though
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UnsureE
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
#675291 - 06/19/13 06:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i am hand watering and pre soaked them in light nutrient ph water before transplanting. im probably gunna get the slabs cuz you can fit two hugos on one if it gets too root bound ill just stack it on another slab
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#675292 - 06/19/13 06:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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but i was wondering when transplanting to a larger grow block, i let the small block with the plant in it to dry out then transplant right? cuz thats what i did so i didnt know if it needed to be watered again or not
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#675293 - 06/19/13 06:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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im using the rockwool for clones also
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SmokeSomeHash
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#675301 - 06/19/13 08:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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UnsureE said:
but i was wondering when transplanting to a larger grow block, i let the small block with the plant in it to dry out then transplant right? cuz thats what i did so i didnt know if it needed to be watered again or not
Yeah just dont let the hugo dry TOO much...the goal is to encourage the roots to go deeper in search of water, that way they get established in the slab fast.
Again, make sure to condition the slabs properly. Its a lil more, sometimes you need to flush to waste then add nutes. They usually come with instructions on the package so just double check.
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
#675325 - 06/19/13 11:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok but will it hurt it if i dont flush?
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#675327 - 06/19/13 11:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well the rock wool will have too hag of a pH, buuuuut.....I've noticed that it doesn't make much difference
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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SmokeSomeHash
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A lot of people think rockwool has a high pH but its actually from built up deposits. Once you rinse it its pretty neutral.
That being said, its not really a big deal cuz youre gonna be washing out the deposits anyways when you water the first couple times and the pH will stabilize. Just soak em really well and let them drain.
If youre hand watering you should have more even moisture and a more stable ph if you top water, which is why a lot of huge rockwool grows do drip...although ebb and flo works just as well if you manage it right.
Check this out for everything you need to know about rockwool Grodan Faq
This should also help
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Edited by SmokeSomeHash (06/19/13 11:56 PM)
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UnsureE
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
#675354 - 06/20/13 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh ok thanks
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UnsureE
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#677076 - 07/04/13 05:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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how long can a plant stay in a 8 in rockwool cube, because the roots come out of the bottoms pretty quick.
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UnsureE
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#677084 - 07/04/13 07:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also i have three small clones about 2.5in tall inside a humidity dome they all have a few roots coming out of the bottoms of the 1.5in rock wool cubes they're in. Should i take them out of the dome and put under direct light from my CFLs with the other plants?
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SmokeSomeHash
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: UnsureE]
#677103 - 07/05/13 06:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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UnsureE said:
how long can a plant stay in a 8 in rockwool cube, because the roots come out of the bottoms pretty quick.
You can leave it in the big mama and itll reach a max size eventually. If you wanna get it huge then put the mama on top of a slab.
The roots wont get rootbound like in a soil pot. They will just come out the cube and get air pruned...not a big deal
Big mamas are pretty big...
As for your clones, if you see good roots comin out then transplant them and move into veg.
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Re: when to water rockwool [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
#677224 - 07/06/13 09:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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cool thanks
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