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 noobs1988
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 Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!)  [Re: noobs1988]
#672088 - 05/22/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well just wanted to bump this thread up to the top so I can get the rest of the materials I need.
what im really interested in how big my resovoir needs to be and then how big my tub that's holding the plant needs to be.
Can anyone tell me if I need to go buy store bought water with these readings I got from my tap water?
"I also did some testing with my PH and TDS meter. I tested my tap water. After reading and following all instructions, I tested the water I put in a plastic cup. I got a reading of 750PPM. I didn't think that was right. I then tested my tap water while it was running out of the facet, I got 250PPM.
After Calibrating my PH scale my tap water was at 7.8PH. lol. I think im going to have to buy some filtered water in those 5 gallon jugs. maybe have a 20 gallon reservoir."
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: noobs1988]
#672094 - 05/22/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Never went into hydro so can't help much with that
But a better solution to your water problems is a Brittany filter. It takes forever but makes the water nice and soft as well as lowering the ph
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: Maestro]
#672112 - 05/22/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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I THink im going to try this also
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#672114 - 05/22/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well you can just lower the pH with up or down.
Now 750ppm is high. Have you retested? Also I would try samples from other faucets or even a neighbors water, just to get a comparison. If it's 250 I wouldn't be overly concerned. You can always ask your water company for a breakdown of your tap water.
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#672120 - 05/22/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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So if its at 250 dont worry about it? Ill probably test a neighbors water. And ill probably test the water i can get from a water dispenser down the road.
Not to worried about getting good water but my reservoir size and plant tub size are an issue at this point. I dont know how big i need to get.
Would 10 gallon reservoir be big enough with a 5 gallon tub on top for veg and maybe 25 gallons with 10 gallon reservoir for flowering.
Its going to be for about 4 plants 1000w light.
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: noobs1988]
#672121 - 05/22/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wait a sec, I need to go over everything and see what you were doing again.
Before I look at anything, keep in mind you need to change your res. at least once a week.
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#672122 - 05/22/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are you still planning on ebb and flow?
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#672127 - 05/22/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes im doing the ebb and flow. I was thinking for my reservoir It could be taller verses wide. that would help will the water getting to low when its pumping to my plant tub.
SO maybe my plant tub would be like 50 or 25% the size of my reservoir.
Idk, i was hoping yall could help me pic something out a good size. my uncle said with that light ill need a tray that is 4x4ft 8in tall.
4x4x.66=10.56ft cubed = 78.99 gallons.
Now i dont know if my calculations are wrong or not but 4X4 just seems like wayyyyy to big. If i do the conversion backwards. Im guessing iwould need about 10-15gallon tray which would be 1.34ft^3 - 2.01ft^3
So thats my thoughts.
Edited by noobs1988 (05/22/13 06:04 PM)
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: noobs1988]
#672132 - 05/22/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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A thousand watt light should have a 4x4 table. And you are pretty close on your calculations. But let's say that you are really only filling up about 6 inches of your table. so you are really going to need a total of 60 for the table itself. So you would need a res. of at least 2-3 times that.
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#672171 - 05/23/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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that's a biggg reservoir. imagine 3 55 gallon tubs.
I just never see people using big reservoirs for there grows here or eve talk about it. Maybe ill start a post "how big is your reservoir for your 1000w light"
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: noobs1988]
#672172 - 05/23/13 07:02 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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im just here keep thinking, theres no way I could get a 150 gallon reservoir... That's just way to big.
Correct me if im wrong, but my thoughts are, as long as theres enough water/nutes to keep your plants satisfied at that very moment (which you can tell by your starting and ending TDS readings) then that's should be good enough. And I was thinking abut 40 gallon reservoir. Then once I know the height I need to go, (6in high) then I can find out how big of a tray I would need get (length and width wise). And by maintaining my TDS I can get healthy grow. Then only thing is the amount of size the roots have to grow in.
Just my thought though. I really don't know.
PLease correct my if im wrong and I will get the right shit if I have too.
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: noobs1988]
#672173 - 05/23/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Have you invested a lot into ebb & flow at this point?
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: Maestro]
#672209 - 05/23/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not really. Just a pump and the eeb and flow kit pictured upbove. Why, you like other methods or??
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: noobs1988]
#672223 - 05/23/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well first off there's not too many people doing ebb & flo on this forum to begin with. But what I'm recommending is the standard for this method. And yes it is necessary, for a number of reasons.
1. With ebb & flo, when the water is on, you run it constantly. So that it's filling the tray and draining out at the same time.
2. You want a good amount of extra water/nutes for the plants to feed off of, otherwise you can end up with wild swings of pH and PPM's. Having a bunch of extra water will help you in the long run.
3. If you don't have one big enough, you will have to change it out even more frequently.
Why do you not think you can have that big of a res? Have you actually looked at the size of space one would take up?
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#672239 - 05/23/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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its not the space. Its the water. That's a bunch of water. and around 8.8lbs a gallon, that's 1056lbs for 120gallons. I want to do it up stairs and I also wanted to buy my water. I was thinking about having 50 gallon reservoir with 30 gallon tub holding the plants. If 1 5 gallon bucket would support 1 plant then 30 gallons should support 6 plants. That would mean filling up 10 5 gallon jugs.
Edited by noobs1988 (05/23/13 04:23 PM)
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: noobs1988]
#672242 - 05/23/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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4 weeks veg+8weeks flowering =12 res changes MIN
So even if you were right on the 50gal, that's 600 galons. R u really gonna buy 600 jugs of water in 12 weeks? I would just let your tap water sit for a day or so before you use it, or get a filter.
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: Maestro]
#672243 - 05/23/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you really have to change your water that much even with a tds and ph meter? Theres no way to just kinda add more water and nutes instead of changing it all out?
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: noobs1988]
#672249 - 05/23/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes you need to change it out. EVERY WEEK!!!!! This is one of the reasons people fail in hydro.
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And now I'm confused. Your using buckets now? What happened to ebb and flow?
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#672256 - 05/23/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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he was thinking about buying water in galon jugs, like from the store.
OP, i'm pretty confident that the best choice for you is to do at least 1 soil run with that setup. Meanwhile you can look up a more hands-off hydro method (deep water culture?).
Once you get your investment back from the soil run, expiriment, but untill then dont think nothing can go wrong lol
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Re: $1000 dollar indoor grow room...need help please (my first post!) [Re: Maestro]
#672259 - 05/23/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im not using 5 gallon buckets but i was saying to imagine that in your head as a size reference, im saying that a 5 gallon bucket would be big enough to support one plant... if thats true then a 30 gallon table can support 6 plants....
Im pretty set on hydro. As long as I keep my grow journal updated at least once a day, im confident the good people here on growery will help me along the way.
And dont get me wrong, its not like I haven't done any research, ive actually been researching for years hence the 3 year old nutes I never put to use.
Ok change the water out once a week. I can manage that.
Whats this "leaving the tap water out a day will make it better or adding a filter" what kind of filter do yall use and what does leaving your water out a day do to it?
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