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The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi
    #627455 - 06/13/12 06:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)


Edited by mota (06/13/12 07:07 PM)

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Re: The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi [Re: mota]
    #627462 - 06/13/12 06:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I don't have any working speakers. Could you brief me on the points? Thankies


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Re: The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi [Re: mota]
    #627465 - 06/13/12 06:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Doesn't work for me.


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Re: The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi [Re: KaptKid]
    #627467 - 06/13/12 07:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

click on the link guys sorry


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Re: The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi [Re: mota]
    #627468 - 06/13/12 07:08 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i fixed it


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Re: The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi [Re: mota]
    #627491 - 06/13/12 09:22 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I didnt watch the whole thing but I have heard the argument before about him wanting to switch currency

I dont think that is the reason for the UN getting involved. I think it more has to do with him ordering the slaughter of civilians and anyone who didnt agree with his viewpoints.  There was already a civil war happening when the UN got involved.

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Re: The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi [Re: Picklez]
    #627555 - 06/14/12 12:45 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I didnt watch the whole thing but I have heard the argument before about him wanting to switch currency

I dont think that is the reason for the UN getting involved. I think it more has to do with him ordering the slaughter of civilians and anyone who didnt agree with his viewpoints.  There was already a civil war happening when the UN got involved.




lol, if it was about slaughtering civilians there are probably a few dozen places in africa that could have used intervention years a go. Also, the civil war seemed more of a product of UN intervention, being that the resistance was hopelessly inept, and barely accomplished their goal, despite having air and tactical support from numerous global powers 

PS russia today banks on exploiting gullible conspiracy theorists, so I'm not going to waste my time on the video.  But imagine the issue here is the same with all the grand cabal conspiracies: the world is much more chaotic than you want to give it credit for.

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Re: The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi [Re: kyuzo]
    #627558 - 06/14/12 12:51 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I mean, I understand the conspiracy theory and it is very interesting. I just dont think it was the primary reason for the UN to take action.

Here is a good read. Libya vs. Syria

http://www.standnow.org/blog/why-intervene-libya-not-syria

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Re: The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi [Re: Picklez]
    #627561 - 06/14/12 01:06 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I mean, I understand the conspiracy theory and it is very interesting. I just dont think it was the primary reason for the UN to take action.

Here is a good read. Libya vs. Syria

http://www.standnow.org/blog/why-intervene-libya-not-syria





the UN is a bureaucratic tool of the security council, and there is really no over arching theme to anything they do.  If Qaddafi had strong support in either russia, or china, then the intervention would have never happened.  And while the piece makes some good points, it also raises others that don't hold up well, like

"Contributing to these conversations were the voices of Libyan civilians themselves, many of whom criticized the US and international community for not taking greater action faster.  "

which pretty much describe ANY violent conflict, with a disparity of force. 

Also, the author ignores there was always strong, and clear, opposition from the African union, but such was irrelevant because no one really gives a fuck what they think.

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Re: The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi [Re: kyuzo]
    #627562 - 06/14/12 01:08 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

The African Union was against intervention in Libya? Was that in the video you posted? I know they supported the move to a gold currency, because they have a ton of gold and would quickly become dominant world players, but I have never seen anything that says they opposed UN intervention

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Re: The Truth About Muammar Gaddafi [Re: Picklez]
    #627563 - 06/14/12 01:18 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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The African Union was against intervention in Libya? Was that in the video you posted? I know they supported the move to a gold currency, because they have a ton of gold and would quickly become dominant world players, but I have never seen anything that says they opposed UN intervention




http://allafrica.com/stories/201103200012.html

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