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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
    #623337 - 05/17/12 10:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You guys don't understand the concept of how the law works, do you?

Everything Zimmerman was within the law, given the evidence. Yes, he killed a kid. Yes, he was told he didn't "need" to. Yes, it's not morally right.

But he did not do anything against the law. Stand your ground and self defense makes his actions legal, unfortunately, in this case.


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms] * 1
    #623340 - 05/17/12 10:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Shr0000ooooms said:
You guys don't understand the concept of how the law works, do you?

Everything Zimmerman was within the law, given the evidence. Yes, he killed a kid. Yes, he was told he didn't "need" to. Yes, it's not morally right.

But he did not do anything against the law. Stand your ground and self defense makes his actions legal, unfortunately, in this case.




lol omg i didnt see it like this before

jeez, your so deep man


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms] * 1
    #623342 - 05/17/12 10:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Shr0000ooooms said:
You guys don't understand the concept of how the law works, do you?

Everything Zimmerman was within the law, given the evidence. Yes, he killed a kid. Yes, he was told he didn't "need" to. Yes, it's not morally right.

But he did not do anything against the law. Stand your ground and self defense makes his actions legal, unfortunately, in this case.




you do realize its going to be hard to prove the 'stand your ground' law, when he chases after the kid after the cop said he didnt need to?


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve] * 1
    #623344 - 05/17/12 10:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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still beLIEve said:
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Shr0000ooooms said:
You guys don't understand the concept of how the law works, do you?

Everything Zimmerman was within the law, given the evidence. Yes, he killed a kid. Yes, he was told he didn't "need" to. Yes, it's not morally right.

But he did not do anything against the law. Stand your ground and self defense makes his actions legal, unfortunately, in this case.




lol omg I didn't see it like this before


jeez, your so deep man




Well apparently you're not so deep if you're only argument towards mine is insulting my intelligence/stance.

Anwyays, the stand your ground law/self defense still has effect given that Martin beat Zimmerman, if that is the case.


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve]
    #623345 - 05/17/12 10:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I dont understand this though,

Trayvon Martin had gotten away, he had outrun Zimmerman and could easily have run home.

Instead, he decided to ambush Zimmerman and attack him. In response Zimmerman shot him.

And that's really how I believe it happened. I dont buy this, Zimmerman was able to run this guy down and shoot him, then beat himself up.

Sure it's possible but everything I have seen and heard about Zimmerman, he appears to be a pretty standup dude.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] * 1
    #623347 - 05/17/12 10:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You're making up stories with facts, like the media.

What if Zimmerman seen Martin jacking off in the rain? The dood got shut because he was black, jacking off in the rain high as hell on some dank.


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Picklez, you idiot. [Re: King Koopa]
    #623348 - 05/17/12 10:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

That's pretty plausible


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
    #623349 - 05/17/12 11:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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King Koopa said:
You're making up stories with facts, like the media.

What if Zimmerman seen Martin jacking off in the rain? The dood got shut because he was black, jacking off in the rain high as hell on some dank.




Believe what you want man. Whatever helps you sleep at night

Not every time someone from another race kills someone of a different race, is it racially motivated. I dont see any where in this case where it suggests racial motives.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
    #623351 - 05/17/12 11:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You forgot to mention his perversions. A black guy jacking off in the rain is a whole nother type of ugly.


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
    #623352 - 05/17/12 11:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Whatever, idc, Zimmerman is a Mexican, if black people want to be stupid and irrational and throw the race card yet again then let em do it.

I dont believe race played any role in this.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
    #623371 - 05/18/12 02:31 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Picklez said:


Sure it's possible but everything I have seen and heard about Zimmerman, he appears to be a pretty standup dude.




ive heard he was a jackass. who used his power as self appointed neighborhood watch leader to call the cops (100 times a year or some shit).

Sounds douchy as fuck to me


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve]
    #623372 - 05/18/12 02:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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still beLIEve said:
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Shr0000ooooms said:
You guys don't understand the concept of how the law works, do you?

Everything Zimmerman was within the law, given the evidence. Yes, he killed a kid. Yes, he was told he didn't "need" to. Yes, it's not morally right.

But he did not do anything against the law. Stand your ground and self defense makes his actions legal, unfortunately, in this case.




you do realize its going to be hard to prove the 'stand your ground' law, when he chases after the kid after the cop said he didnt need to?





actually I think the burden to disprove his affirmative self-defense claim rests with the state.  Also, following someone isn't against the law

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve]
    #623373 - 05/18/12 02:43 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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still beLIEve said:
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Picklez said:


Sure it's possible but everything I have seen and heard about Zimmerman, he appears to be a pretty standup dude.




ive heard he was a jackass. who used his power as self appointed neighborhood watch leader to call the cops (100 times a year or some shit).

Sounds douchy as fuck to me




he was actually elected head of the neighborhood watch.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: kyuzo]
    #623386 - 05/18/12 09:10 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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kyuzo said:
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still beLIEve said:
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Picklez said:


Sure it's possible but everything I have seen and heard about Zimmerman, he appears to be a pretty standup dude.




ive heard he was a jackass. who used his power as self appointed neighborhood watch leader to call the cops (100 times a year or some shit).

Sounds douchy as fuck to me




he was actually elected head of the neighborhood watch.




link?

ive heard he was self appointed.


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Pilze]
    #623392 - 05/18/12 10:15 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Pilze said:
zimmerman was about twice the size of martin, and im not exaggerating...





Not true. Even though Zimmerman had ten years on the kid, he said in interview he had no idea he was so young because of his size.

Just because you don't like what happened doesn't mean you get to make up facts to fit your perspective, man...


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Tank333]
    #623404 - 05/18/12 11:35 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

"Zimmerman moved his head from the concrete onto the grass to avoid being spoon fed and being in diapers"

"Martin was trying to disarm Zimmerman"

Bet none of you heard those stories from the media, which we all love and respect so much :rolleyes:


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve]
    #623428 - 05/18/12 02:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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still beLIEve said:link?

ive heard he was self appointed.




this story has been overly editorialized, and the distinction between reporting and editorial is a lost cause for most news outlets.  So the mistake is understandable

PS you can find more detailed accounts, if you're interested,but this will work for our purposes

<<<But Zimmerman's family, his neighbors and his lawyer paint a different picture: That of a devoted neighbor, keen enough to protect the neighborhood that residents, in establishing a local Neighborhood Watch group last year, appointed him the captain. The organization was not registered with the national Neighborhood Watch program, but was set up with the assistance of the Sanford Police Department. Zimmerman initiated the program, according to Wendy Dorival, the department's volunteer coordinator.>>>

http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-why-did-shoot-trayvon-martin-141231964.html

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: kyuzo]
    #623429 - 05/18/12 02:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

and I agree he was a jackass.  It just doesn't look like he did anything illegal, or at least the state can successfully prosecute

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
    #623436 - 05/18/12 03:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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the media which we all love and respect so much



:orly:Who exactly are you referring to here?!?! :ilold: I think we can all agree that mainstream media has dropped the ball when it comes to properly reporting relevant issues. This very discussion is a poignant example of such.


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Tank333] * 1
    #623439 - 05/18/12 03:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

It was sarcasm I believe.

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