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 What comes to mind when viewing this image? 
#617408 - 04/10/12 04:23 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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CrayolaHalls
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 Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts] 3
#617411 - 04/10/12 04:28 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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That the artist has an irrational fear of the unknown. The artist has an agenda against systems that he/she has little influence over or understanding of.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts] 2
#617412 - 04/10/12 04:28 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Big bear doin thangs on the bottom right
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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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DeadHearts
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: CrayolaHalls]
#617415 - 04/10/12 04:32 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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CrayolaHalls said:
That the artist has an irrational fear of the unknown. The artist has an agenda against systems that he/she has little influence over or understanding of.
But what is KNOWN suggests that the image is on point. However the good ol "All seeing
eye" or "Eye of providence" is put atop for a reason. In my opinion.
Money is power. Thos who have the most have the most power or control do you not
agree?
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#617428 - 04/10/12 04:44 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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unfortunate truth 
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: CrayolaHalls]
#617429 - 04/10/12 04:45 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
CrayolaHalls said:
That the artist has an irrational fear of the unknown. The artist has an agenda against systems that he/she has little influence over or understanding of.
qft
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Picklez]
#617433 - 04/10/12 04:50 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Picklez said:
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CrayolaHalls said:
That the artist has an irrational fear of the unknown. The artist has an agenda against systems that he/she has little influence over or understanding of.
qft
Explain why?
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DungenessDank
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: CrayolaHalls] 1
#617444 - 04/10/12 06:00 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Actually, there is a pretty large body of evidence to support the notion that we are livestock. I wouldn't represent it as a pyramid, more like an interconnected network of exploitation.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts]
#617445 - 04/10/12 06:03 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Man, you're really obsessed with this type of thing. Not a horrible thing to be obsessed with. But all your posts are about corps and what not.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#617446 - 04/10/12 06:05 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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hawksapprentice said:
Man, you're really obsessed with this type of thing. Not a horrible thing to be obsessed with. But all your posts are about corps and what not.
Its more interesting and important to me than talking about weed or drugs all the
time.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts]
#617448 - 04/10/12 06:11 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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I'm not saying that's what you should be talking about all the time.
I used be VERY into politics and this corporation stuff. But found it a better use of my time to adjust the choices that I make when buying products and the food I purchase than arguing with people about it. I also started growing my own food during the months you can do that where I live.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#617449 - 04/10/12 06:21 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Thats awsome dude. Growing your own food is a great thing and selective
consumerism on your part is also very good.
But it is important that we talk about these things. To share ideas and beliefs
and not to sweep them under the rug or limit such conversation to conspiracy sites.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts]
#617450 - 04/10/12 06:24 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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The notion that we can do nothing about it is an institutional illusion.
Fortunately and unfortunately, we are heading in a direction where we will have no choice, lest we bow to our overlords and their guns.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DungenessDank]
#617451 - 04/10/12 06:30 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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DungenessDank said:
The notion that we can do nothing about it is an institutional illusion.
Fortunately and unfortunately, we are heading in a direction where we will have no choice, lest we bow to our overlords and their guns.
And what is your proposed solution sir?
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#617453 - 04/10/12 06:41 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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hawksapprentice said:
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DungenessDank said:
The notion that we can do nothing about it is an institutional illusion.
Fortunately and unfortunately, we are heading in a direction where we will have no choice, lest we bow to our overlords and their guns.
And what is your proposed solution sir?
I always see this asked.
No one person can do much. But it is strength in numbers. The injustices that
we are seeing are just not in everyones lives and in their faces enough to disrupt their normal day to day existence.
But its all laid out for everyone to see. Between all the unsustainable war including the war on drugs. Big oil and Big Banks not being held accountable for
their actions while the blue collar are fitted with the cleanup bill.
We are seeing people stand up all over the world but it just has not hit hard in the
US yet. I fear the American masses are still too dumb in a sense to grasp the severity. I mean look no further at our likely presidential candidates.
At the same time good things are happening and its not all doom and gloom. There is
still hope for the future but it is clear that if something is not done soon that
things will just continue to get worse. And talking about these issues is a great
start to get the ball rolling IMO>
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#617455 - 04/10/12 06:55 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Short term things are going to suck- economic exploitation and unrest, burgeoning police state, imperialistic militarism, etc... but it's pretty simple from my standpoint.
Let things collapse on themselves, they are in the beginning stages already, and recruit as many people as possible to help aid in its collapse. We need a conscious resistance to tyranny, even if its a small minority, though hopefully many useful idiots will come aboard.
Anyone who see's it coming needs to begin asking the question: "What do we after it collapses?" Let's not repeat history and waste our opportunities by replacing what we fought to get rid of. We need a conscious resistance to the filling of the power vacuum.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#617459 - 04/10/12 07:09 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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I ask this question because most people bitching about the things going on don't have any type of plan to change. As it sounds like you don't either.
Talking to people only does so much. Action is needed. Hence growing my own food, having hens in my back yard. Decentralizing our food sources is the first step to taking down corps like Monsanto. Also I write my congressman and senators, I pay attention to bills being put up to both state and federal actions, and voice my opposition and support for said actions.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#617462 - 04/10/12 07:24 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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hawksapprentice said:
I ask this question because most people bitching about the things going on don't have any type of plan to change. As it sounds like you don't either.
Based on what?? You dont know anything about me yet cast judgment based on a few
sentences.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts]
#617465 - 04/10/12 07:32 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Based on most people I ask the question to. Case in point I asked and didn't get anything more than "talking about it can get the ball rolling".
People have been talking about this forever. And there really still is no "ball" that's rolling man.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#617479 - 04/10/12 07:48 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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You havent answered why you think you can judge the entirity of ones person based
upon a few sentences.
You think you have it figured out because you contact you local congressmen?
(I do that to ya know). You think you are the only one who pays attention to
bills that are proposed or the only one who grows your own food or buys products
in a selective way?
You're not. I haven't judged you yet you are tearing down my complete character based
again because of a few sentences.
Right now your logic stands as this. If you engage in "conspiracy" talk you are sitting around wasting your time. But its a different story if you call your
congressmen and grow some of your own food 
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#617480 - 04/10/12 07:49 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Actually Hawk, if you are talking in that sense:
http://www.mutualist.org/
Rather than sum up all my views, I'll just say I share many if not most with this movement. Of course I also believe self-sufficiency is going to be important.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#617494 - 04/10/12 08:04 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
DeadHearts said:
You havent answered why you think you can judge the entirity of ones person based
upon a few sentences.
You think you have it figured out because you contact you local congressmen?
(I do that to ya know). You think you are the only one who pays attention to
bills that are proposed or the only one who grows your own food or buys products
in a selective way?
You're not. I haven't judged you yet you are tearing down my complete character based
again because of a few sentences.
Right now your logic stands as this. If you engage in "conspiracy" talk you are sitting around wasting your time. But its a different story if you call your
congressmen and grow some of your own food
But when asked you fail to mention any of the things that you do.
Yes growing your own food and raising chickens so you don't have buy eggs from inhumane sources is a way to start. And yes making your voice heard is another way to fight what is going on.
I never "tore down your complete character". Just stated that most people who sit around arguing about this shit have no plan to make any change. And you proved me right. You don't. That isn't tearing you're character down.
You're being a bit hypersensitive it seems to me.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#617498 - 04/10/12 08:10 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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I have not proved you right at all.
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Just stated that most people who sit around arguing about this shit have no plan to make any change. And you proved me right. You don't.
Again how do you know what Im doing with my life?
Seems you are jumping to conclusions for no reason besides the fact Im am posting
on a message board 
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#617501 - 04/10/12 08:13 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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No, as stated before I asked. When not given a response you can infer that you are not doing much. Especially since you seem so passionate about the subject. If you had a decent answer it would have been given.
Never said I know what you are doing with your life. Just that you don't have a plan, but like to bitch about what's going on. It's okay, I used to do the same. But realized it doesn't do anything.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#617506 - 04/10/12 08:25 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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hawksapprentice said:
No, as stated before I asked. When not given a response you can infer that you are not doing much. Especially since you seem so passionate about the subject. If you had a decent answer it would have been given.
Never said I know what you are doing with your life. Just that you don't have a plan, but like to bitch about what's going on. It's okay, I used to do the same. But realized it doesn't do anything.
I do all the things you do aside from raising my own chickens. Eggs can be purchased
from local farm markets in which two are located close to me.
But tell me what that has to do with unsustainable wars and corporations that
control government besides when it comes to our food??
I asked what comes to mind when viewing the image in the OP and all you had to say
was Im obsessed with this stuff and put me into question right away. So what do you
think about the pyramid?
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: DeadHearts]
#617512 - 04/10/12 08:36 PM (12 years, 18 days ago) |
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Don't really think a whole lot about it. Nothing it brings up I haven't already read about. Just reminder of what we already know I guess.
It doesn't have anything to do with the constant war. That's not going to change unless we actually have a revolution, which considering the expanse of the military industrial complex isn't going to happen. Especially considering our growing prison industrial complex to boot.
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Re: What comes to mind when viewing this image? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#617515 - 04/10/12 08:47 PM (12 years, 18 days ago) |
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Oh well now was that so hard? 
We need a revolution of the mind. Fighting back is only more of an excuse to further
exploit security. There may come a time if people dont wake up where violence will be our last option. Time will tell but that Image is something people need to think about
when it comes to supporting all of these corporations and trusting our government.
Because I would find anyone hard pressed to refute it all as bullshit.
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