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UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats
    #577405 - 08/09/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Those riot fags are pissing me off. Fucking nigger/white-trash lowlife scum is rioting because the cops shot some random dealer who first shot a cop.

And they're setting people's property on fire, looting and ruining it for everyone. Worhtless human waste :megapsycrankey:

Don't call me racist cause those guys are mostly dark skin fags that just want to break shit and steal 50 inch plasmas.

And the police are doing nothing about it. British faggot police. They consider using plastic bullets. LOL Give me a fuckin break :huxleyfacepalm:

Those guys need to pull their shit together and start KILLING THE SCUM :minigun::mrt::mrt::mrt:

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: mellowparty]
    #577410 - 08/09/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If they use live ammo, it will get very bloody very fast, and many innocent would be lost.
Are you close to the riots?
Shit is looking bad from what little our local media has shown.


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: Stoneth]
    #577416 - 08/09/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nah I'm up North but some shit might go down here.

Its ridiculously counter-productive. Basically ghetto opportunist thieves that used the riots as an excuse to start looting. At first I thought its cool but then I found out what their rioting against. Some scumbag coke dealer who shot a cop and now the cops are being racist. Fuck that.


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: mellowparty]
    #577420 - 08/09/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Destruction of private property solves so much!

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: DungenessDank]
    #577504 - 08/10/11 06:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Using live rounds would just be fucked up. Most of them are thieves, and that's not really enough for cops to go massacring them in the streets. Personally, if I ever had to lead a squad to stop riots I'd gas them and just stuff them in something like a moving van, the thieves would be discouraged if they knew I might show up and just arrest like 40 of them at a time.. :lol:

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: Cage]
    #577512 - 08/10/11 07:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: mellowparty]
    #577542 - 08/10/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
Nah I'm up North but some shit might go down here.

Its ridiculously counter-productive. Basically ghetto opportunist thieves that used the riots as an excuse to start looting. At first I thought its cool but then I found out what their rioting against. Some scumbag coke dealer who shot a cop and now the cops are being racist. Fuck that.




Report I heard most recently was that he had a gun but hadn't fired it....

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: NizzyJones]
    #577556 - 08/10/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Either way its pathetic. Dumbass youth looking for excuses to set people's houses on fire and tear apart cash machines.


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: mellowparty]
    #577740 - 08/11/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i don't know about killing them... but a nice real bullet to the leg will teach 'em... :smile:

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: xbcnfujv]
    #577746 - 08/11/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Start a peace movement.


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: iwasaClown]
    #577777 - 08/11/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So is it over completely?

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: mellowparty] * 1
    #577823 - 08/11/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The definition of the word Fag is:
Fag - n. A word that only fags use, see also fuck or fuckers.

I'm sorry, but in my opinion, this is a word that needs re-defining. Certainly you don't have anything against gay's do you? It's a gaycist word, just like 'nigger' is a racist word.
Some of the coolest people I know are gay, and probably party harder than anybody on these boards.



Quote:

mellowparty said:
Either way its pathetic. Dumbass youth looking for excuses to set people's houses on fire and tear apart cash machines.





:oldman:

Don't mix up the consequences with the intent of actions.


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #577837 - 08/11/11 11:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Shut up. :grin:

But seriously, if you get upset by a word you already lost.  Sticks and stones brah sticks and mother fucking faggot stones.

On a even more related note, I read a article about a car full of coloreds driving into a pile of other coloreds and killing 3.  WTF is wrong with people.

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: Tangerines]
    #577840 - 08/12/11 12:21 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Tangerines said:
Shut up. :grin:

But seriously, if you get upset by a word you already lost.  Sticks and stones brah sticks and mother fucking faggot stones.





Already lost? Life is no game, and I think you underestimate the power of words and language.
Words may not break your bones, but it does have an impact psychologically. Words and language are one of the reasons why there is violence in the world.

If you yell out the word 'nigger' in the ghetto, I wouldn't even have to bet on your ass getting beat physically due to the psychological impact that word has on the people.


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #577892 - 08/12/11 07:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #577896 - 08/12/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

How can you say life is not a game with such certainty?  There is no reason to be so serious. It is a game to me and being happy is winning so worrying about words is losing.  When I lived in the hood I would call people faggot niggers and they would call me cracker etc it was "all good in the hood" as they say.  It is all about delivery.

Words only have meaning if you give them meaning though so unless someone is looking to get offended then it is all gravy.  No matter what someone says it won't get a rise out of me but what someone does will.  I guess people are just too damn sensitive.

Cage- Exactly right, faggot

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: Tangerines]
    #577899 - 08/12/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Tangerines said:
How can you say life is not a game with such certainty?  There is no reason to be so serious. It is a game to me and being happy is winning so worrying about words is losing.




I say life is no game, because of violence and death.
I think that you think it's a game, because that's your shield to protect you from your own death-anxiety.

Words are meaningless symbols objectively, but you wouldn't be able to comprehend what I'm saying if you didn't give my words some meaning.


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: Tangerines]
    #577900 - 08/12/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Tangerines said:No matter what someone says it won't get a rise out of me but what someone does will.  I guess people are just too damn sensitive.





And it's not like I'm offended by these words, I'm just sick of seeing the ignorance of people.

Okay, someone will shoot you in the head, and that will get 'a rise out of you'? :lol:

What if someone were to tell you they were going to shoot you in the head? That wouldn't?

If you don't think you are affected by words, then you are blind and ignorant.
Certainly you are, or else you wouldn't be replying to my words on a damn message board.
Why are you on a message board for that matter if you don't apply 'meaning' to words?
To prove me wrong? :lol:

And by the way, how can you be so certain that life is a game?


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #577908 - 08/12/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have plenty of scientific sources to back up my claims, do you?



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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #577914 - 08/12/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Sources? I call bullshit.  And life is a game to me is what I am saying.  It may be all serious to you and that is your own prerogative.

All I am saying is that words only are as offensive as you let them be.  Sure if someone says they will shoot me in the head I would react accordingly that is just instinctual.

I do not believe getting upset about the word faggot is instinctual though...unless you are a faggot. :grin:

I am glad you are going all pseudo psychologist on me though.  Why would death/violence stop it from being a game?  War is a glorified game with political ends.  Live action chess. That does not make it right, but it is still a game whether people die or not.  Mother nature has a gambling problem.

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #577916 - 08/12/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

I_AM_SWIM said:
I have plenty of scientific sources to back up my claims, do you?







I mean what claims would I even have to back up?  I am pretty sure I have made it known I am speaking about opinion here.  I don't need any back up for that. :shrug:

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: Tangerines]
    #577923 - 08/12/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Read these and reply again if you want to get a response from me.
You claim that words don't affect you emotionally. I say that they do.
Violence and war usually stem from ideologies that are founded
by language. I'm trying to speak seriously of the matter, but you call me
a 'faggot', and so I know that you aren't taking the subject seriously, and
it's not worth my time talking about it with you.

http://psych.wisc.edu/glenberg/Papers/Using%20emotion.pdf
http://nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~lindqukr/docs/Lindquist2009.pdf
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~haroldfs/540/handouts/emotion/emotion.html


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #577935 - 08/12/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Violence/war transcend language IMO.  Different colonies of the same species battling over certain turf etc. 





I didn't read those btw so don't bother responding. :grin:

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: Tangerines]
    #577941 - 08/12/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I never said that violence and war didn't transcend language.
I said it stems from language; which implies that it transcends language.


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #577945 - 08/12/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well what I meant was I don't think war stems from language as much as actions.  If you see people creeping on your livestock/crops you will go protect it and kill them if needed.  There needs not be a single word spoken.  I'd love to continue this but I need to go to the Dentist and get my bi-yearly fluoride implants.

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: Tangerines]
    #577963 - 08/12/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly. Don't be bringing that Chomsky shit up in here.

I'll agree coercion is violence, but language itself is neutral without the intentions of the speaker. Only hyper-sensitive pussies get upset over the use of words in a non-violent context.

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: DungenessDank]
    #577971 - 08/12/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Language is neutral without the intentions of the speaker.

Not necessarily, it doesn't matter what the intention of the speaker/writer is, because it becomes subject to change based on the audience or reader's perspective.

Only hyper-sensitive pussies get upset over the use of words in a non-violent context.

Clearly, you are missing my point, and it's that words can cause psychological damage, and yet you continue to speak like an ignorant sheep.

Read some books, and stop pretending that language doesn't affect human beings on the mental scale; even in a safe context. It does, and has been proven to even change people's behavior, and as we know, behavior dictates action.


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #577975 - 08/12/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"Be not intimidated... nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of your liberties by any pretense of politeness, delicacy, or decency. These, as they are often used, are but three different names for hypocrisy, chicanery and cowardice." - Thomas Jefferson

If you don't believe in a war on drugs, why champion a war on words?

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: DungenessDank]
    #577983 - 08/12/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

DungenessDank said:
"Be not intimidated... nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of your liberties by any pretense of politeness, delicacy, or decency. These, as they are often used, are but three different names for hypocrisy, chicanery and cowardice." - Thomas Jefferson

If you don't believe in a war on drugs, why champion a war on words?





I never said that I don't believe in a war on drugs, it's pretty obvious that there is one.
I don't understand what you mean. I'm well aware of Jefferson's rhetoric, and have read his works extensively.

All that I'm saying is that words and language are more powerful than you may realize, if you understand marketing at any level you would notice this.

"We find that the emotional advantage of consumers' native language depends on personal memories and the language context in which those memories were generated. Thus reading or hearing a word (unconsciously) triggers memories of situations in which that word played a role…Because consumers usually have more personal memories with words in their native language than in their second language, marketing messages in their native"

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081215111433.htm


Why champion a war on words?


First of all, I don't understand what you mean by this.
I'm not telling anyone what to write or say, I'm simply trying to bring
awareness to the situation.
Secondly, I have a growing interest in linguistic ethnography, and thirdly, I think
it's best that people think before they speak in order to avoid hypocrisy.


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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #577993 - 08/12/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Personally what I may find as upsetting may not upset you whatsoever, speech is subjective as much as it is objective.

"Oppressive Speech" may exist, but to label words themselves as oppressive just doesn't make good sense, and certainly not good policy.

Those with social and political agendas always will use this to justify their own beliefs and impose their will on others.

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Re: UK Riots: Faggots VS Twats [Re: DungenessDank] * 1
    #578004 - 08/12/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I never labeled a word being oppressive. I am simply stating that words cause a psychological
impact on people. The word itself isn't inherently good or bad, it's merely a symbol on the
objective level, but words with a negative history will spark emotions in people, and all
that I'm trying to say is that it's best to be careful with what words you use when speaking
or writing, because there will be consequences regarding with what is being said.


It's quite easy to psychologically damage people and drive them towards committing suicide
via verbal abuse alone; sure it's up to the individual to finally commit the act, but you
cannot deny that the social environment played a role in formulating such a scenario either.


Anyway, here's some Joe Brogan talking about the word 'faggot'. :smirk:



Anyway, I've been enjoying this conversation so far. It's been fun. :cheers:


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