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So what's the view of John Brown Across the States?
    #540086 - 03/25/11 08:02 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

John Brown

I for one look up to him as a hero and think more people should learn from him and fight for what they believe in. A lesson those against prohibition could take a class in.



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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #540091 - 03/25/11 08:09 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

well i didnt read the whole thing on wiki, but as far as the slavery thing goes, I don't think one human being can "own" another human being, so if he helped stop that, then more power to him :thumbup:


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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #540097 - 03/25/11 08:21 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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well i didnt read the whole thing on wiki, but as far as the slavery thing goes, I don't think one human being can "own" another human being, so if he helped stop that, then more power to him :thumbup:




well.... helped.... kinda.

He failed a raid on an armory trying to arm an army of freshly released slaves.

The slaves didn't show up, people died. He go captured and hung.

But he did other things to, but this was almost directly precluding the civil war.

He was part of the Jayhawker vs Bushwhacker shit back in the burning Kansas days.


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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #540099 - 03/25/11 08:24 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Eh, he opposed slavery and stood for something.  All I need to know :shrug:


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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #540140 - 03/25/11 09:48 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

What is that book he is holding? Must have some significance.


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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #540172 - 03/25/11 11:30 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Never heard of him til now. I am sure I learned about him back in high school but didnt know shit without the link

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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: Picklez]
    #540187 - 03/26/11 12:21 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I never heard of him either.  Funny that his name was never dropped in grade school while we were learning about the Civil War or even during black history month.  Thanks to Texas History we knew everyone who died at the Alamo.  Kinda makes you wonder why a guy would put his life and everything else on the line for a group of people who weren't even considered second class citizens.

Still with such an interesting and unusual piece of history I'm surprised we didn't learn about it in school.

There is a very groovy Masters of Reality song titled John Brown but I don't think it has anything to do with this.


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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #540288 - 03/26/11 09:43 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

An hero


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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #540312 - 03/26/11 11:11 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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What is that book he is holding? Must have some significance.



A bible.

And the gun in his hand is a I think... beechers bible or beachers bible??? They were guns shipped as bibles.

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Never heard of him til now. I am sure I learned about him back in high school but didnt know shit without the link

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Kansas

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An hero




I don't want to :feelsbadman:


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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #540313 - 03/26/11 11:14 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I guess since most of you guys don't know I'll also mention that painting I posted is in the Kansas capitol building in Topeka.


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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #540350 - 03/26/11 01:37 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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They were guns shipped as bibles.




:what:


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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: drawde]
    #540433 - 03/26/11 06:51 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: So what's the view of John Brown Across the States? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #540436 - 03/26/11 07:16 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I feel cool because I actually learned all this stuff in high school. We didn't go too in depth with John Brown, probably due to the fact that there was so much other material to cover with the Civil War.

I got the impression he was something of an extremist, but I can hardly blame him given the reprehensible nature of slavery. :shrug:


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