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Offlinejutfan
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maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this
    #534185 - 03/07/11 06:15 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

look at the top eaves how there thin an crispy.
has anyone seen this. just flushed the nutes an but in new water with ph at 6.5 old water read 6.8. bu dnt know the ppm. meter sti;l in mail.


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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: jutfan]
    #534230 - 03/07/11 12:01 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

anyone?

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: jutfan]
    #534255 - 03/07/11 01:01 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Cant really see much man.

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: Dephect]
    #534266 - 03/07/11 01:35 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

understandable. i dont think its a big issue, i just got my tds meter in an the water i had it in, was sky high. so hopefully this should help in the next days. but ook at the top of the pant. the leaves are real thin. i on the botom leaves i see minor burns no big ones

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: jutfan]
    #534269 - 03/07/11 01:42 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

you mean the way they're folded up like a taco? Is that what you mean by thin and crispy, or are they actually crispy, ie crumble when you touch them?


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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #534273 - 03/07/11 01:45 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

I can't do much without readings. I would say check your pH, if your TDS/PPM are really high without adding nutrients and its coming from your tap then your shit is volatile. I would recommend getting a water filter or letting your water aerate for a few days.

Leaf curls are usually due to pH in my experience though.

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: Dephect]
    #534302 - 03/07/11 03:31 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

thanx for the good feedback, you may be right. i have to keep it out for a bit an put some ph down in it, cause it come out at like 9 ^ ph. an i let it set over night till it gets close to 6.5 , but i think it was to much nutes tht causedd it. an yes it was like a taco. not crispy enuf to crackle are anything. i barly changed the water today this morning on its new lighting cycle. an it looks like is getting a bit better. have yall every got it from maybe to small of a airstone feeding oxygen?

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: jutfan]
    #534315 - 03/07/11 04:17 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

I get it all the time. It can be anything from pH, to temperatures, to merely a completely healthy plant growing super fast :shrug:


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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #534378 - 03/07/11 06:09 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

lol nice. nice. yeah hopefully!
im takin good care of my girls.

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: jutfan]
    #534632 - 03/08/11 11:38 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

IMO this happens when pH is too basic

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: double]
    #534780 - 03/08/11 05:01 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

lol do you mean by trying to control it to much? this guy at the hydroponics store said alot of them dont even watch it. cause they've seen great growth not watching constantly

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: jutfan]
    #534782 - 03/08/11 05:04 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

Basic = Base = High pH
Acidic = Acid = Low pH

The two things that control your pH. If your pH is too basic its too high. High pH curls leaves.

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: Dephect]
    #534789 - 03/08/11 05:25 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

ok got ya. i just checked it and its at 7.4 i dont think thats too high. if i try to control it its just gann fall straight down.

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: jutfan]
    #534792 - 03/08/11 05:29 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

7.4 is way too high man.

The optimal range is 5.5-6.5. I try to keep mine right at 6.

1.4 higher then optimal in pH can stunt growth and cause nutrient lockout which is always no good.

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: Dephect]
    #534799 - 03/08/11 05:35 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

ok i guess i new that. but iv always seen ppl say. 6.5 -7 maybe i saw wrong. i did put some ph down so imma check it here in a minute an see what it says.

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: Dephect]
    #534817 - 03/08/11 05:54 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

Dephect said:
Basic = Base = High pH
Acidic = Acid = Low pH

The two things that control your pH. If your pH is too basic its too high. High pH curls leaves.




I feel I need to clarify a bit of this post.

Those don't control pH, they are measurements of pH, what controls pH is concentration (the ratio) of H+ ions to OH- ions within the solution. pH is merely a measurement of those concentrations.

And also, low pH can curl leaves equally quick.


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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #534822 - 03/08/11 05:59 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

I just wanted to clear up what the term Basic meant so he didn't think he needed to ask the hydro store guy. I didn't feel I needed to go strictly in depth about the science of pH.

As for the pH. 7.4 is a little high, and that's probably the culprit.

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: Dephect]
    #534828 - 03/08/11 06:12 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #534863 - 03/08/11 07:14 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

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ok i guess i new that. but iv always seen ppl say. 6.5 -7 maybe i saw wrong.




That pH range is ok in soil, but for hydro, 5.5-6.5 is what you shoot for.  That is what Dephect is saying.


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Re: maybe a nute problem? has anyone seen this [Re: muse42]
    #534897 - 03/08/11 07:42 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

o ok i see. thanks for clearing all that up for me.

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