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 kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco 
#525389 - 02/09/11 04:49 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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The plants were started outdoors and moved indoor for flowering,i will give them 1 week of veg once the plants are in the tent
They have all been supercropped.
This will be a scrog
Homebox L - 1.0*1.0*2.0 m
Lights: 1x 600W HPS
Medium: Coco, with 4cm of perlite on the top layer
Nutes : Canna Coco A+B Rhizotonic , Cannazym ; for bugs: pyrethrum extract and neem oil
Strain: My favourite sativa that takes around 12 weeks still unknown
Ventilation: 1x S&P TD 350/125 Silent 380/280m3/h for outake
2x Small fans for circulation
8x Square pots of 11L (3gal)
I will upload some pics soon..
Hope you guys enjoy seeing this as much as i enjoy doing it! 
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 Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#528718 - 02/19/11 01:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Time for a update
Day 1 of 12/12 (4 days ago)
The scrog net was done with some pvc tube and unions, and some stuff i had laying around the house.
Sorry for the shitty pic's, but my camera is still in repair, hopefully i have it fixed by the time i get some nice buds
Edited by kln (02/19/11 01:06 PM)
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#528970 - 02/20/11 12:07 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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sweet man, i'm looking forward to see how this goes - nice setup! 
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: shasha]
#529147 - 02/20/11 04:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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UPDATE
Day 5
5 days after the flip and they are touching the net already, still have some good 12 days of strech wich should be enough to cover the area
  
I won't take as much pic's as i wanted to, untill i have my camera back so, i will upload just a few so you can get the idea of their growth
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: shasha]
#529150 - 02/20/11 04:24 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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shasha said:
sweet man, i'm looking forward to see how this goes - nice setup!
hey bro, feel free to have a seat and grab some popcorn to watch 
thanks for the input
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#532256 - 03/02/11 02:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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so my hps bulb got fuck'd up a few days after they show some pistils, and i took 4 days to replace it, i used some cfl's to improvise.
they are okey now, but i know this stressed them a bit.
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#534210 - 03/07/11 09:28 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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UPDATE
I changed the light to 18/6 while i was without HPS, i reverted to 12/12 once i got a new one working.
I've been quite busy these days so no time for updates, but i will leave some pics from 05-03-2011 (2 days ago)
FLOWERING
1st Week
  
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#534218 - 03/07/11 11:02 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#534219 - 03/07/11 11:05 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whats up with the soil? Is that diatomacous earth on top or lime? Is your water penetrateing that white layer on top if not so well I'd scratch it because they can seal up the top preventing proper leaching.
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: Flying_Dog]
#534233 - 03/07/11 12:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Flying_Dog said:
Whats up with the soil? Is that diatomacous earth on top or lime? Is your water penetrateing that white layer on top if not so well I'd scratch it because they can seal up the top preventing proper leaching.
It's just coco coir with perlite on top, i only use this as an preventive method for bugs, they like coco much more than perlite
I have a quite good drainage, actually i always used perlite to improve drainage when i was running soil.
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#534235 - 03/07/11 12:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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They're looking good so far man but I have to admit I think you're making quite a mistake by flowering them right now. The scrog screen is great but it's completely useless if you don't give them another week or two of vegging to fill in the screen a little bit more 
Just my two cents.
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Oh and also they're showing signs of nitrogen deficiency, which is a huge problem this early in flower. If they're yellowing right now then they're going to really have a hard time finishing later on down the road.
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Quote:
Harry_Ba11sach said:
They're looking good so far man but I have to admit I think you're making quite a mistake by flowering them right now. The scrog screen is great but it's completely useless if you don't give them another week or two of vegging to fill in the screen a little bit more
Just my two cents.
I think you are right, i was with afraid of that, because since i've been that days without HPS they almost didn't stretched for what its usual.
This is a strain that stretch like a bitch, but now they ain't following that, do you think that it wouldnt damage them to revert to veg for 1 week now?because they are all packed with pistils already, i will try to upload some updated pic's.
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
Oh and also they're showing signs of nitrogen deficiency, which is a huge problem this early in flower. If they're yellowing right now then they're going to really have a hard time finishing later on down the road.
yeah, i got out of nutrients, and i'm waiting for my last order,i will feed them today with some A+B and rhizo (from a friend).
Thanks for the help!
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#534248 - 03/07/11 12:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah show me a picture to get an idea of how far along they are in flower before I can answer that. You might want another 2 weeks of veg to correct the deficiency and to fill in the screen. most scrogs fill the screen about 75% or more before they start flowering.
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Quote:
Harry_Ba11sach said:
yeah show me a picture to get an idea of how far along they are in flower before I can answer that. You might want another 2 weeks of veg to correct the deficiency and to fill in the screen. most scrogs fill the screen about 75% or more before they start flowering.
Here ya go
   
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#534276 - 03/07/11 01:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmmm.... that's pretty far along. Honestly if you switched back now it would be a week before they even reverted to veg growth. If you can spare another 3-4 weeks before you start flowering your yields would multiply by literally a factor of ten. However if you're on a tight schedule then I'd say just let them go, they're probably only about 6-7 weeks from finished as it is and you can practice filling the screen on your next round.
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I don't have that much time, and i've flowered these plants coz i ran out of weed, i got one mother that can fill that net with no problem, i guess i will flower it when this grow is over, but for now i just wanted some weed to smoke so i guess i will keep the 12/12.
Feed today 10ml A+B 5ml rhizo, they should get some color by tomorrow
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: Hendershot]
#534291 - 03/07/11 02:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: T-Rex]
#534641 - 03/08/11 11:55 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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looking nice so far
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: double]
#535204 - 03/09/11 03:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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UPDATE
2nd Week
The one in the back, might have another feeding next watering, while the others will have ph'd water.
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#535217 - 03/09/11 03:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey if you're growing in straight, unamended coco then you should be feeding with every watering. I'm thinking that might be part of the reason for the deficiency as well.
they've grown a lot already since the last picture though!
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I bought coco from the bag this time, and soaked in nutrient solution.
I would like to feed them every time, but it wouldn't be wise to do it untill i have some EC meter,i can keep them more stable if i feed every other watering.
I guess that i'm going to buy a submersible pump or smth to collect the runoff when i flush them this week.
They've grown a lot since last feeding (2 days ago), it gave them a little bump for sure.
Thanks for all the help and attention guys 
Edited by kln (03/09/11 04:26 PM)
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#535226 - 03/09/11 04:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your nutrient solution should have an EC or PPM conversion chart from mL/Gal on the label. Just reduce it by about 10-15% to account for water quality in your area and you should be good.
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kln
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Well, i can make the calcs and give it a try, if i see signs of overfeeding i will give them ph'd water.
If i feed every watering i should give them 1 flush per week right?
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#535246 - 03/09/11 04:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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no need in my opinion. you can if you're super worried about salt buildup, but honestly you're drastically underfeeding them right now since you're treating the coco like soil.
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kln
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Yeah they need more feeding, but i'm not treating them like soil, just got out of nutrients for some time, or i wouldnt let it moist all the time, or wouldn't aim for a ph of 5.8
I will follow your advice, and push the girls to the max they can take!!!
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#535255 - 03/09/11 04:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hahaha ok true true. The only way you were being soil-y is by feeding every other or every three feedings. 
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Feed today
10ml A+B
7.5ml PK 13/14
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#537687 - 03/17/11 06:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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UPDATE
3rd Week
Pics were taken just after today's feeding 5ml A+B ph'd 5.9
So, the girls started to develop some trichomes, and the smell when i open the tent after lights go out is just...yuuumy!
I've been with some problem with the damn mites, mostly due to lack of ventilation, i got only one pc fan oscilating there, my 2 fans ain't working, and all fans are off-season here, so i can't buy it anywhere.
The girl on the middle it's by far the weakest plant,with some serious attack from mites.
    
I'm very sorry for the low quality pic's, but i'm still without my cam, i hope i can take some nice pic's before the final weeks.
Edited by kln (03/17/11 06:14 PM)
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#544013 - 04/07/11 08:15 AM (13 years, 23 days ago) |
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6th Week
I had some security problems and i couldn't risk i had to pack all the stuff and move, all the plants are still packed, so as the equipment.
Ok, now i'm angry, right when the plants started to have a better color and develop big and frosty nugs i can't grow it, this fuck'd up my plans that were just to have enough smoke for the summer.I will post some pics of the plants before the incident soon.
I don't think that i will be able to finish this batch even if i do, the plants will never be like i want them to be in the end , so i must figure out now, how can i grow it more safely
Edited by kln (04/07/11 08:17 AM)
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#544098 - 04/07/11 11:38 AM (13 years, 22 days ago) |
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What happened?
If if you lose those girls, hang them up dry them out and make some BHO or some form of concentrate with them.
Better luck next time 
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: Dephect]
#544394 - 04/08/11 09:46 AM (13 years, 22 days ago) |
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hey man, that are some nice ffing plants, they look skinny tho. kinda like me :$
i hope you will come online sometime and finally start talking to me on msn before im gonna chop down those plants
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: Loekino]
#545063 - 04/10/11 05:40 PM (13 years, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
Dephect said:
What happened?
If if you lose those girls, hang them up dry them out and make some BHO or some form of concentrate with them.
Better luck next time
Sorry, but i'm just not confortable explaining it here
i guess that i still got lucky with this!
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hey man, that are some nice ffing plants, they look skinny tho. kinda like me :$
i hope you will come online sometime and finally start talking to me on msn before im gonna chop down those plants
i've been quite busy last weeks,now i'm back online
But it doesn't ends here
I moved my suff, the plants survived 5 days in boxes without light, i'm gonna have to finish this but ofc that expectations will be much lower now, but its better than nothing
They are now without the net, because it will be some serious PITA to place it right.
Nuff talk, pics now
plants after 5 days of darkness:
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Re: kLn's 2011 indoor 600W coco [Re: kln]
#545490 - 04/11/11 10:20 PM (13 years, 18 days ago) |
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Damn man i love your pictures. your my weed growing idol<3
Eventho they went into a box for some days they still are good to grow right?
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