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OfflineAmphiprion
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DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad.
    #501823 - 11/30/10 05:36 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

I was hoping someone would be able to give me some helpful advice on my outdoor DWC. As per the video below, you can see my other two plants look quite healthy. The one plant on the left however, is extremely droopy/flacid.

DWC Outdoor Vid.

Should I flush the DWC and throw in some fresh PH- Balanced water with a little fertilizer since this could be a toxic buildup?

PH is fluctuating towards 7 if I leave it, I'm currently bringing it down with Red vinegar, and sometimes lemon juice, it then swings back up again. I don't have the money for PH down.

Why would the other plants be doing okay, But this one not?

THANKS JKELL
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? Seed
2. How old are your plants? 3 Months
3. How tall are your plants? 2 Feet
4. What type of hydro system are you using? DWC
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using? Bounceback
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution? 5.5
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water? I Don't Know
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution? I Don't Know
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? 70F
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check? I don't do one
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check?Yes, It rises
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? no
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") - Natural sunlight
14. How close are your lights to the plants? 93 MILLION MILES
15. What size is your grow space in square feet? 2x4
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space? fluctuates day to night, from about 60F-78F
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? Small Preying Mantis's
18. How much experience do you have growing? First Hydroponic Grow

Regards
Amphi


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Re: DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad. [Re: Amphiprion]
    #501825 - 11/30/10 05:42 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Fill this out you'll get a quicker more accurate reply

Hydro Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What type of hydro system are you using?
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using?
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution?
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water?
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution?
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution?
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check?
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
14. How close are your lights to the plants?
15. What size is your grow space in square feet?
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
18. How much experience do you have growing?


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Re: DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad. [Re: jkell]
    #501863 - 11/30/10 10:40 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

It looks like it's suffering from over/underwatering, possibly not enough oxygen to the root system.

How do the roots look like on the droopy one?  Any slimy shit on them? Brown/Black discoloration?

PS invest the 30 bucks in a PPM meter, it will help a lot.


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Re: DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad. [Re: coda]
    #501910 - 11/30/10 12:26 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

I'll be praying for Santa to bring me a PPM meter.. I have no $$ at the moment. Thanks tho Code's will have a look at the roots tomorrow although I think they are brownish.

Amphi.


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Re: DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad. [Re: Amphiprion]
    #501932 - 11/30/10 01:30 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Brown with slime is an indicator of root rot which is pretty much death for a plant in hydro if it's bad enough.  Slight discoloration may occur as a result of your nutrient solution, over feeding, or a lack of oxygen in the water.

What do you have providing O2 to your roots?


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Re: DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad. [Re: coda]
    #501969 - 11/30/10 04:43 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

coda said:
What do you have providing O2 to your roots?




Two air stones coupled to an air pump.

On root perusal, the discoloration is slight, no slime noted..


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Re: DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad. [Re: Amphiprion]
    #501979 - 11/30/10 05:05 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

hmmmm well, that's a good thing!  Still doesn't solve the problem.  I'm assuming that the roots of that plant are reaching the water right?  I'm wondering still if it's receiving enough O2, if not and it's roots are submerged, then it's essentially drowning.

Maybe someone with some hands on DWC experience can chime in as well, I'm just making some educated guess here :wink:


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Re: DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad. [Re: coda]
    #501988 - 11/30/10 05:17 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Codes, I'll take another video tomorrow morning with some in-depth root footage, perhaps that will help out a bit. will show off the air stones too.

Thanks for the help!

Amph.


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Re: DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad. [Re: Amphiprion]
    #502002 - 11/30/10 05:51 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

What is the blue tub to the right of the plants? what do you use it for?


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Re: DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad. [Re: GreenHorn]
    #502265 - 12/01/10 12:17 PM (6 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

GreenHorn said:
What is the blue tub to the right of the plants? what do you use it for?




I just have some guppy spawn in there left over from an Aquaponic grow with vegetables.

Update on the plant: The intensity of the droopiness/sagging varies periodically. Its currently looking a lot more perkier than before but still somewhat saggy.


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