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 FurrowedBrow
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 Re: Kem IV Day 1  [Re: Coaster]
#426999 - 06/01/10 06:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Coaster said:
who faked it says who
i was just messin since harlz be runnin that jibber jabber.
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 Harlz
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Hey harry,
why aren't they walking around up there right now if that really happened?
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Harlz]
#427001 - 06/01/10 06:32 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why would we? Nobody is there right now because there's no reason to, and it's expensive. Humans do NOTHING without some sort of financial incentive. Visiting the moon is the single most expensive endeavor in the history of mankind, and since we found out it's basically an enormous, desolate ball of dust we realized that continued presence there is nothing more than a feel-good money pit.
That's funny, I thought you were laughing like you had made a legitimate point.
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Harlz
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seems like you're the ignorant one here 
do you believe everything the government tells you champ?
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Harlz]
#427009 - 06/01/10 06:44 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, I think for myself. Debunk my point if you think you have a legitimate argument. Simply calling me ignorant and asking if I'm a sheep doesn't actually constitute a debate.
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Harlz]
#427012 - 06/01/10 06:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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this isn't something that's debatable.
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Harlz
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Several motives have been suggested for the U.S. government to fake the moon landings - some of the recurrent elements are:
1. Distraction - The U.S. government benefited from a popular distraction to take attention away from the Vietnam war. Lunar activities did abruptly stop, with planned missions cancelled, around the same time that the US ceased its involvement in the Vietnam War.
2. Cold War Prestige - The U.S. government considered it vital that the U.S. win the space race with the USSR. Going to the Moon, if it was possible, would have been risky and expensive. It would have been much easier to fake the landing, thereby ensuring success.
3. Money - NASA raised approximately 30 billion dollars pretending to go to the moon. This could have been used to pay off a large number of people, providing significant motivation for complicity. In variations of this theory, the space industry is characterized as a political economy, much like the military industrial complex, creating fertile ground for its own survival.
4. Risk - The available technology at the time was such that there was a good chance that the landing might fail if genuinely attempted.
The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
Proponents of the Apollo hoax suggest that the Soviet Union, and latterly Russia, and the United States were allied in the exploration of space, during the Cold war and after. The United States and the former Soviet Union today routinely engage in cooperative space ventures, as do many other nations that are popularly believed to be enemies. However, this suggestion is challenged by the impression of intense international competition that was under way during the Cold War and is not supported by the accounts of participants on either side of the Iron Curtain. Many argue that the fact that the Soviet Union and other Communist bloc countries, eager to discredit the United States, have not produced any contrary evidence to be the single most significant argument against such a hoax. Soviet involvement might also implausibly multiply the scale of the conspiracy, to include hundreds of thousands of conspirators of uncertain loyalty. http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Harlz]
#427016 - 06/01/10 06:51 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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excuse me, I said debunk MY point, not copy and paste from some lunatic conspiracy website. I took the time to respond to your argument with an articulate, thought out answer, I would appreciate if you would give me the same courtesy or I don't see much point in try to have an intelligent discussion with you.
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Harlz
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I dont give a fuck though, thats the difference
dude I made you a sig
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Harlz]
#427022 - 06/01/10 07:02 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ahh well I'm okay with that. You have a history of not knowing when you're wrong 
btw, propanol and isopropyl alcohol STILL aren't the same thing 
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Harlz
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Im far too high to argue that one right now
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Coaster
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Harlz]
#427029 - 06/01/10 07:13 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Harlz said:
2. Cold War Prestige - The U.S. government considered it vital that the U.S. win the space race with the USSR. Going to the Moon, if it was possible, would have been risky and expensive. It would have been much easier to fake the landing, thereby ensuring success.
ok but why fake apollo 13 that mission was 90% failure and made us look incompetent
plus they clearly launched a phat rocket into space since every1 saw it in the air so that definitely cost a lot it wouldnt cost much more to orbit the moon
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Coaster]
#427171 - 06/01/10 10:07 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow good point.
 @ "phat rocket"
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Inverted]
#427177 - 06/01/10 10:11 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Inverted said:
Wow good point.
@ "phat rocket"
It's all the new rage man.
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Coaster
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Day 10
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Coaster]
#430188 - 06/09/10 04:38 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Was that already rooted 10 days ago?? It's looking a little sad. What's the pH of the water your using? Nutes?? Temps in your grow room??
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Inverted
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Yeah that really should have taken off a lot more if it was rooted already, which it was when you bought it.
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Coaster
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Quote:
hawksapprentice said:
Was that already rooted 10 days ago?? It's looking a little sad. What's the pH of the water your using? Nutes?? Temps in your grow room??
its only day 10 so im just using water no nutes
the temp is at 75
and i dont check the PH cuz i heard thats not that important
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FarBeyondDriven
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Coaster]
#430412 - 06/09/10 02:36 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just chop it dude. It's like torturing your pet puppy 
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Harlz
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Re: Kem IV Day 1 [Re: Coaster]
#430414 - 06/09/10 02:41 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Coaster said:
and i dont check the PH cuz i heard thats not that important
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