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Help Immediately Please!!!
    #352909 - 01/25/10 09:23 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

How to tell if your bulb went or if you need a whole new system. When light is on just dont turn over you know right before it turns fully on its a light orange, then when it kicks on the light turns brighter well that is all my light is doing. So I am wondering if its the light or the system.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: blueberry D]
    #352915 - 01/25/10 10:08 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Bummer

Take bulb to a hydro store and ck it in another system.

Hope a grow is not suffering.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: KaptKid]
    #352916 - 01/25/10 10:15 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

That was my plan if nobody had an answer for me, on the bright side of things its only been out for about 4 hours so if it is only the bulb I can get another not to big of deal just dont want it to happen again. For all you people growing make sure you have a spare bulb for cases just like this. I will update when I get back from the store until then crossing my fingers its only the bulb.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: blueberry D]
    #352930 - 01/25/10 12:15 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

sounds like a problem with the ballast if its not kicking in fully


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: KaptKid]
    #352932 - 01/25/10 12:16 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

So I went to the shop and that fucker doesnt even have the shop open, and the store hours posted on the door 12-8 mon-sat, what the fuck!!! Well I'm a hook up a couple cfls until that old fuck opens his store. This hsit sucks horribly!


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: dmtcorey]
    #352971 - 01/25/10 03:35 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Nah it was the light and that guy wanted 50 for one 400 watt hps bulb, but did not have any in so I called this electric store, the guy had them there for 20 bucks so I got two of them. Another bit of advice for some of you that may not now your bulbs decrease lumen output steadily after each use, also clean regularly with alcohol. Hope this helps a few of you guys that may not know much about bulbs.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: blueberry D]
    #353017 - 01/25/10 06:42 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

What does cleaning the bulb with alcohol do?


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: MushrooMan420]
    #353021 - 01/25/10 06:52 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Removes any dust or finger prints from your bulbs.  It doesn't increase lumens the lumens of the bulb, just gives you back what you may have lost from a grimy reflector/bulb. 

Funny that it was the bulb that burned out, usually the symptom you described is due to a blown capacitor or something along those lines.  Since there isn't a high enough charge to fire the bulb it stays in the purple glowy stage permanently.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: coda]
    #353175 - 01/25/10 11:01 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Yeah there was a big difference between the old one I had, and this one I got right now for sure. Even puts off more heat but I am just glad that I got it the same day it went out so I didn't fuck the light schedule up that bad, plus I got a back up bulb just in case of situations like this.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: blueberry D]
    #353401 - 01/26/10 03:42 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Are you sure the bulb you bought was designed for growing??  There are HPS bulbs that are sold but aren't designed for growing plants.  Just thought I'd throw that out there.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #353405 - 01/26/10 03:53 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Is there a big difference hawksapprentice?  I have a NatureMax HPS which is supposed to be the same specs and design as the Hortilux Supers and it cost me $90, but I have often wondered about how good the $20 joints at the hardware store would do.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: dutc2006]
    #353409 - 01/26/10 03:55 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

I believe that they do not put out the spectrum that you are looking for.  I would have to see the exact bulb that he bought though. 


Stick with the ones your using.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #353418 - 01/26/10 04:16 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

I figured it was probably a spectrum thing, not to mention they may not have the lumen output of the grow bulbs.  I was just curious if they would make good interim back ups in the event my bulb dies out.  I guess they probably would for the money.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #353470 - 01/26/10 11:17 AM (11 years, 1 day ago)

The box it came in said Athalon commercial lighting products. Looked it up, looks like the right light for me.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: blueberry D]
    #353602 - 01/26/10 06:52 PM (11 years, 1 day ago)

From what I see on there web site they don't make grow lights.  I would be surprised if this had the appropriate spectrum that you need for growing plants.  Commercial light and grow lighting are 2 completely different types of HPS bulb.


But maybe I'm wrong on this one and were all getting ripped off at the grow store.  Anyone else wanna chime in on this??


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #353798 - 01/26/10 11:22 PM (11 years, 1 day ago)

This is not BlueBerry D, this is Linux. We share an apartment and a computer and I just read this and must respond now.

Sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about man. It may not be the perfect spect but its still putting out around the same if not the same amount of lumems.

I have seen many grows over the years I have been reading grow logs with people using straight up fucking stolen street lights.

It bugs me so much when people take the time and effort to talk about this they know nothing about.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: blueberry D]
    #353802 - 01/26/10 11:24 PM (11 years, 1 day ago)

Well aren't you coming off like a douche.  I'll stick with my appropriate bulb and out yield you every time.  Oh and did you not read my last post??


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #353805 - 01/26/10 11:27 PM (11 years, 1 day ago)

And if you know so much why aren't you helping answer questions around here more instead of just criticizing others??


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #353816 - 01/26/10 11:35 PM (11 years, 1 day ago)

Linux again:

You came off to me as a douche to me first by talking out your butt  :stirthepot:


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: blueberry D]
    #353820 - 01/26/10 11:37 PM (11 years, 1 day ago)

Wow, then you get offended easily.  I feel for ya


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #353827 - 01/26/10 11:45 PM (11 years, 1 day ago)

Linux again:

You will never feel on me boy  :frenchie:

Go check you lights spect or something clarissa explains it all is on I got tv to watch.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #353836 - 01/26/10 11:56 PM (11 years, 1 day ago)

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From what I see on there web site they don't make grow lights.  I would be surprised if this had the appropriate spectrum that you need for growing plants.  Commercial light and grow lighting are 2 completely different types of HPS bulb.


But maybe I'm wrong on this one and were all getting ripped off at the grow store.  Anyone else wanna chime in on this??




Okay well first off regular HPS bulbs will work perfectly fine.

They all have relatively the same spectrum (2000k) and the only types of HPS bulbs that will have the advantage for growing purposes would be the SunPulse, Hortilux, Sun Agro, etc... Just to name a few.

150w bulbs ONLY come in regular styles (Commercial/Industrial) and I'm pretty sure everyone I have seen that uses a 150 does juuuuuust fine.  My Sun System setup came with just your standard $8 bulb and I have had NO complaints with the spectrum.  My plants also prove that theory wrong.  I grow big dense nugs with such a small system, so I really have to disagree with that statement that they won't work well for growing applications, seeing as they don't even make a 150w HPS bulb for cultivation and 150's have been proven very effective for Micro/Cab grows.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Inverted]
    #353837 - 01/26/10 11:58 PM (11 years, 1 day ago)

Awesome, good to know.  Thanks for the info man.


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #353850 - 01/27/10 12:13 AM (11 years, 1 day ago)

No problem!  I'm glad you brought that up because I have had a lot of people tell me to upgrade (which I can't with a 150) but it caused me to look into it further.

IMO if you have plenty of money and it's not a big deal to throw down $100 for a bulb, I'd say it is worth it to go with a Sun Agro, but if you are a grower on a budget like me, It is more worth it to buy the regular bulbs.

That way I can pick up multiple bulbs for the same price, which means I can replace them after every 2 flowering cycles keeping the lumen output high and beating depreciation. 

I was in no way getting after you for that post BTW, I just figured I throw my 2 cents in there. 

BTW I can't wait to see your log take off!


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Re: Help Immediately Please!!! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #353854 - 01/27/10 12:24 AM (11 years, 1 day ago)

Oh I know you weren't.  You stated it in a well thought out concise and polite way.


Me too man, I'm about to take clones in a week or so.


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