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OfflineRickster
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Oil
    #35196 - 05/20/08 10:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I watched a video on youtube about how making oil with mj can cure cancers. Does any one recall this video. I can't remember the title of it though.
My question is how long does it take? And is it worth using all that herb to make? Basically, Is this proven to work besides his testomony?

Here it is! http://youtube.com/watch?v=WbB5pQ2T2t8


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Re: Oil [Re: Rickster]
    #35640 - 05/21/08 07:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do you mean how long it takes to cure cancer? I doubt the cancer-curing claims have any actual substantiation behind them. Its always worth a shot, though, if you're dying of cancer. As far as it being worth it, I don't see why not because the process retains all of the trichomes. Personal preference how you wish to consume one's THC I guess.


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Re: Oil [Re: Sirius]
    #35657 - 05/21/08 09:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I believe the person who cured cancer used hempseed oil, which is nonpsychoactive.


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Re: Oil [Re: coda]
    #35664 - 05/21/08 09:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The video showed them processing buds, basically making hash oil. It was inserted in the middle of the video of the chick going to the summit and then interviewing this guy afterwards, at which point I stopped watching, by someone else.  Not sure what was up with that. :lol:

Hempseed oil would be great for health, even if one doesn't have cancer, kind of like flaxseed oil, but better. :hehehe:


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Re: Oil [Re: Sirius]
    #35700 - 05/21/08 11:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ah, i didn't watch the whole thing, just a bit of the intro.


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Re: Oil [Re: coda]
    #35713 - 05/21/08 12:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I repressed the inevitable urge to close it just a bit longer than you. :lol:


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Re: Oil [Re: Sirius]
    #36066 - 05/21/08 09:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was wondering if ther was any truth to their claim. You did answer my question about whether it was worth the proccessing to get that little amount of oil. If time ever allows me to I will try it out. Thanks!


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Re: Oil [Re: Rickster]
    #37939 - 05/23/08 03:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

thc is known to have anti-cancer and tumor fighting effects.
its not quite a cure for cancer, but it slows the progress of cancers and tumors.
it also can selectivly cause cell death in cancerous cells, but leaves healthy cells alone.


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Re: Oil [Re: OreoGrows]
    #37941 - 05/23/08 03:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

“Cannabinoids possess … anticancer activity [and may] possibly represent a new class of anti-cancer drugs that retard cancer growth, inhibit angiogenesis (the formation of new blood vessels) and the metastatic spreading of cancer cells." So concludes a comprehensive review published in the October 2005 issue of the scientific journal Mini-Reviews in Medicinal Chemistry.

Not familiar with the emerging body of research touting cannabis' ability to stave the spread of certain types of cancers? You're not alone.

For over 30 years, US politicians and bureaucrats have systematically turned a blind eye to scientific research indicating that marijuana may play a role in cancer prevention -- a finding that was first documented in 1974. That year, a research team at the Medical College of Virginia (acting at the behest of the federal government) discovered that cannabis inhibited malignant tumor cell growth in culture and in mice. According to the study's results, reported nationally in an Aug. 18, 1974, Washington Post newspaper feature, administration of marijuana's primary cannabinoid THC, "slowed the growth of lung cancers, breast cancers and a virus-induced leukemia in laboratory mice, and prolonged their lives by as much as 36 percent."

Despite these favorable preclinical findings, US government officials dismissed the study (which was eventually published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute in 1975), and refused to fund any follow-up research until conducting a similar –- though secret –- clinical trial in the mid-1990s. That study, conducted by the US National Toxicology Program to the tune of $2 million concluded that mice and rats administered high doses of THC over long periods experienced greater protection against malignant tumors than untreated controls.

Rather than publicize their findings, government researchers once again shelved the results, which only came to light after a draft copy of its findings were leaked in 1997 to a medical journal, which in turn forwarded the story to the national media.

Nevertheless, in the decade since the completion of the National Toxicology trial, the U.S. government has yet to encourage or fund additional, follow up studies examining the cannabinoids' potential to protect against the spread cancerous tumors.

Fortunately, scientists overseas have generously picked up where US researchers so abruptly left off. In 1998, a research team at Madrid's Complutense University discovered that THC can selectively induce apoptosis (program cell death) in brain tumor cells without negatively impacting the surrounding healthy cells. Then in 2000, they reported in the journal Nature Medicine that injections of synthetic THC eradicated malignant gliomas (brain tumors) in one-third of treated rats, and prolonged life in another third by six weeks.

In 2003, researchers at the University of Milan in Naples, Italy, reported that non-psychoactive compounds in marijuana inhibited the growth of glioma cells in a dose dependent manner and selectively targeted and killed malignant cancer cells.

The following year, researchers reported in the journal of the American Association for Cancer Research that marijuana's constituents inhibited the spread of brain cancer in human tumor biopsies. In a related development, a research team from the University of South Florida further noted that THC can also selectively inhibit the activation and replication of gamma herpes viruses. The viruses, which can lie dormant for years within white blood cells before becoming active and spreading to other cells, are thought to increase one's chances of developing cancers such as Karposis Sarcoma, Burkitts lymphoma, and Hodgkins disease.

More recently, investigators published pre-clinical findings demonstrating that cannabinoids may play a role in inhibiting cell growth of colectoral cancer, skin carcinoma, breast cancer, and prostate cancer, among other conditions. When investigators compared the efficacy of natural cannabinoids to that of a synthetic agonist, THC proved far more beneficial – selectively decreasing the proliferation of malignant cells and inducing apoptosis more rapidly than its synthetic alternative while simultaneously leaving healthy cells unscathed.

Nevertheless, US politicians have been little swayed by these results, and remain steadfastly opposed to the notion of sponsoring – or even acknowledging – this growing body clinical research, preferring instead to promote the unfounded notion that cannabis use causes cancer. Until this bias changes, expect the bulk of research investigating the use of cannabinoids as anticancer agents to remain overseas and, regrettably, overlooked in the public discourse.


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Re: Oil [Re: OreoGrows]
    #37969 - 05/23/08 04:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

what's the source on that?


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Re: Oil [Re: coda]
    #37996 - 05/23/08 05:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I only watched the last part but all it talked about was pain. It said that it was a cancer cure a number of times but all the examples were like glaucoma or cancer patients with pain problems. Crack pots who think that because weed makes them feel better it must've cured their cancer are the reason medicinal marijuana isn't being taken seriously. Maybe I should have watched it all but it seems like bullshit.


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Re: Oil [Re: jellyfish]
    #37998 - 05/23/08 05:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

jellyfish said:
Crack pots who think that because weed makes them feel better it must've cured their cancer are the reason medicinal marijuana isn't being taken seriously. 




huh?:confused:


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FurrowedBrow said:

They should teach african engineering at the college level.  mcgyver 101

Harry_Ba11sach said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


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Re: Oil [Re: MFDoom666]
    #38002 - 05/23/08 05:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well they're talking about a cure for cancer and all the examples are of pain relief. Stupid hippies worldwide claim weed does things it doesn't when it already does enough awesome things. I haven't slept in two days though maybe I'm posting nonsense.


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Re: Oil [Re: jellyfish]
    #38007 - 05/23/08 06:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There are studies that state that there marijuana might have a compound that slows cancer:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6283-cannabis-extract-shrinks-brain-tumours.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7098340.stm

This stuff is easy to find if you google search it. :shrug:


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Re: Oil [Re: Pipesmoker Elf]
    #38227 - 05/24/08 12:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've read all that stuff. So it might slow cancer. That's a little bit different than this guys claims of curing cancer isn't it?


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Re: Oil [Re: jellyfish]
    #38237 - 05/24/08 01:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that dude pwns. give him a break. :grin:


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They should teach african engineering at the college level.  mcgyver 101

Harry_Ba11sach said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


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Re: Oil [Re: jellyfish]
    #38329 - 05/24/08 05:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, stating that stupid hippies think that weed does things that it doesn't actually do is also different from the reality presented in those researches.


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