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Invisiblestill beLIEve
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benzo addiction for people who have been there
    #33054 - 05/18/08 02:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

if you havent been deep into benozs dont respond to this. im in need of real advice.

iv been taking quite a lot of xanax bars as im sure you all know, and its getting a point where im thinking it might be a good idea to quit.

i mean, usually when i say this, its because i fucked something up. ruined a relationship, got kicked out of my house, lost my job, etc....) something a long those lines

nothings happened really, but my tolerance is getting kind of high. i ingested 8mgs (4 TRA2 bars in 4 hours). and i feel not much more than a light buzz. and its not just me thinking that. everyone agrees im acting pretty much normal.

i know that its obviously tolerance, but when does tolerance become withdrawals? is it to late? or does that happen a while later?



im pretty serious about this, so if y'all could not make jokes i would appreciated it.


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33057 - 05/18/08 02:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

if you are already physically dependent, you should ween yourself off and kick that shit. Nothing good is going to come from benzo addiction , you are probably even better off being addicted to opiates.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: aDoS]
    #33058 - 05/18/08 02:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Smoke some weed when the withdrawl comes. And if you really want to quit mail me some of your bars.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: highasfuck]
    #33060 - 05/18/08 02:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

but i mean seriously, can someone answer if i am on that level yet?

i dont know if my tolerance is just high now, or if its borderline addiction


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33062 - 05/18/08 02:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The time taken by a body to show withdrawal symptoms may vary from four to six months at dosages between 2 mg. to 4 mg. A history of addiction to Xanax can lead to addiction occur more rapidly over a shorter period of time, with more intense withdrawal symptoms.




Based on what I've gathered from your posts, I'm pretty sure that quitting is going to hit you with a significant withdrawal syndrome. Benzos are damned addicting, even at prescribed levels, and you seem to have been exceeding those significantly.

If you don't mind my asking, how long have you been using benzos?

The thing about benzodiazepine withdrawal is that, unlike most withdrawal syndromes, it can actually kill you. So if you've been abusing hard for a substantial amount of time, it could be important to have some medical supervision for detoxing.

I've never been in that position, so I don't have much advice to offer, but I'm sure everyone here is wishing you the best of luck with it.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33064 - 05/18/08 02:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I talked to someone who was a benzo addict for a few years, he was hospitalized for his withdrawals and they weened him off. If I am not mistaken, benzo withdrawals can cause seizures and death.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: aDoS]
    #33066 - 05/18/08 02:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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aDoS said:
If I am not mistaken, benzo withdrawals can cause seizures and death.




This is absolutely correct, and not to be underestimated.

sb: you'd probably find more people who have firsthand experience in the Other Drug Discussion forum over on the other site.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: Sativus]
    #33067 - 05/18/08 02:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i mean i don thtik im that serious by far

likei get care packages once or so a week. wheni get one i ear a whole bunch like 20 in three days andii get to where im a now where i can eat 4-6 bars and feel near sober.

im just wondering even witha shortr peroiod of time using (3 days) can i develop withdaerwal that quick>


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33078 - 05/18/08 02:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

"Care packages" once a week or so, up to 20 doses in three days, up to 6 doses in a single setting!? This would definitely constitute regular use at a high dose, and could definitely contribute to serious withdrawal symptoms if you abruptly discontinue use.

You're playing with fire, but the worst part is that you don't seem to realize it.
The relative coherence of your typing even seems to indicate that you may be heavily dosed right now.

Please be careful, and as with ANYTHING, be responsible and moderate your use!


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: geokills]
    #33086 - 05/18/08 03:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i am doesde now. the thing is its not 6 doses like, 6 bars in one sittitng.

its like i eat one bar, and heat halfs an quarters through the day to keep a buzz going. but now i cant seem to feel anything from them.

even full bars


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33092 - 05/18/08 03:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Barely feeling a buzz on 8mgs is a pretty hefty tolerance. Maybe it would be best to start tapering them off like ados said.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33094 - 05/18/08 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

And yet you don't think you're to the point where you'd get serious withdrawals? Remember a daily dose of 2-4 mg can cause addiction over the course of several months. If you're to the point where you don't even a bar (or a few bars), that sounds ike an issue of concern.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: Toiletduk]
    #33095 - 05/18/08 03:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i guess sooo... im almost out of the bars. maybe like 20 left, but i need to sell those



but i got 90 10mg valium coming on wednesday :lovemeds:


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33096 - 05/18/08 03:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

if you start having panic or anxiety attacks while you are withdrawing it is best to seek medical help or start weening yourself slowly off of them dont just try to quit cuz thats when u could be in trouble hope u get better man!


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33097 - 05/18/08 03:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So in other words you don't really have any intention of cutting it back?  Eating valium to stave off a craving for xanax is a :nonono:


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: Sativus]
    #33098 - 05/18/08 03:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

well i had laready ordered tegh valiums before i even recieved teh xanax.

usually things dont go like this. usually i do my flipping and i make my money

i dont eat em.
i broke my fucking ru le and i ate them


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33101 - 05/18/08 03:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

6 bars and barley anything!?! Thats a high tolerance. I suggest you ease yourself down.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: highasfuck]
    #33102 - 05/18/08 03:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it was actually 4 but im willing to bet if i eat two more i wont feel a damn thing.


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33165 - 05/18/08 06:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm I've heard about how benzo addiction can get real nasty or just as worse as opiate addiction. But I was prescribed to them for a while & took them a lot, and when I wanted to stop taking them I just stopped taking them. No second-thoughts.

They're no good IMO & I hate the head space it puts you in. Zombified. The only thing I think they're really good for is a bad trip abort. Works great.

But anyways see a doctor if you're going to try and stop, no doubt. If you're that badly addicted to something I would seek professional help pretty much no matter what it was, if the addiction was truely that bad.


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Re: benzo addiction for people who have been there [Re: Ombient]
    #33173 - 05/18/08 06:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

thates the thing, i dont know if its truely that bad,


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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