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I love sucking on nuts!
    #25357 - 05/10/08 11:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Betel nuts!  It's one of the most popular drgus in the world, but its popularity never really spread to America.  If you haven't tried these, I recommend trying to seek them out.

In keeping with the American tradition of outlawing the use of substances favored by minority populations, the sale of betel nuts for human consumption was made illegal 4 or 5 years ago.  The good news is, no law enforcement officer has any idea what a betel nut looks like.  I've found sliced and whole nuts at a local India Imports mini-mart, sold in unlabelled bags (a stuffed-full sandwich bag costs $3), and you can certainly buy them online "for non-consumptive purposes" :wink:.

The nut by itself tastes kind of funky and peppery, but this can be fixed by mixing it with mukhwas.  Mukhwas is a delicious Indian after-meal snack/breath-freshener sort of thing, made from sugarcoated anise seeds and other aromatic flavors.  Mixing these in with the betel nut keeps your breath nice and fresh. 

And apparently this isn't just some stoner abomination of betel use... when I bought my betel today, I bought a jar of mukhwas with it, and when I was paying, the woman behind the counter recommended mixing the two together (which I'd already planned to do).  She said that they use to sell them mixed together, but had to stop because young children love snacking on mukhwas.  The mixture is pretty similar to the pan pirag that used to be sold on the internet, but it tastes better (not sickly saccharine).  I add a little baking soda to the mixture to extract the drug more efficiently (I've got some slaked lime coming in the mail so I can start mixing it more traditionally)... I don't notice much of a potency increase from the soda though.

So what's so great about betel chewing?  The effect of the active chemicals (arecoline and arecaidine)is fairly similar to nicotine, but to my body it's a lot more pleasant than smoking a cigarette.  At typical doses, it gives you a nice relaxing sense of well-being (this is enhanced greatly by smoking weed). 

For example, today I was feeling pretty angry and unsettled.  I toked and toked and couldn't shake it, so I decided to go for a walk, the Indian Import Store was just a convenient endpoint (I had no idea if it would be open or not).  I'd bought betel there before about a year ago, but when I ran out I somehow never got around to getting any more.  I got to the store still feeling :crankey:, the walk didn't calm my nerves at all.  But the store was open, so I got my betel and mukhwas...  as soon as I got out of the store I tore open one of the bags of betel threw 7 or 8 thin slices in my mouth along with a little mukhwas and started chewing... and all of a sudden I started feeling good.  Really good. 

The high is very pleasant and cerebral.  Much like nicotine though, if you overdo your dose without tolerance, you can get a nasty headbuzz and start feeling ill.  That just means use a little less next time :wink: it's a learning experience.  It's a productive drug too, I'd say it's more effective than caffeine for mild stimulation, and at least for me it's more effective and pleasant than tobacco.

Plus, if you're a stoner (which you should be if you're here at the Growery), then you know how annoying drymouth can be.  If you chew betel, this isn't a problem.  Betel stimulates the secretion of saliva!  I know this probably sounds weird, but part of the pleasure of betel-chewing is the pleasure of salivation.  I think you stoners should be able to understand where salivation could be pleasurable.

So in summary: Buy them, try them, love them.

/ends plug for betel nuts


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Sativus]
    #25361 - 05/10/08 11:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

very interesting , I'll give them a try


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Sativus]
    #25363 - 05/10/08 11:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

not 2 be rude or anything but it sounds like a weak drug and not worth doin
and nicotine is WACK


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Sativus]
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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Coaster]
    #25400 - 05/11/08 12:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Nicotine is only whack because it causes so much cancer. Betel is associated with a slight cancer risk (mostly from people mixing tobacco into their betel chew), so it seems like a safer way to get the same benefits.

highasfuck: From those sites, I'd probably recommend the Parag packets. Neither of those sites seem to sell sliced nuts, and the crushed ones they have are hard as rock. Seems like there must be some vendor that sells the slices, but I don't know of one offhand.


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Sativus]
    #25430 - 05/11/08 12:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

its also wack cuz its so addicting


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Sativus]
    #25433 - 05/11/08 12:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Betel nut is alot like a nicotine buzz IME.

I once bought pure arecolin(active chem in betel nut) from an online vender, it just seemed to raise my blood pressure cause flushing in my face and make me a little dizzy and rather uncomfortable.


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Coaster]
    #25434 - 05/11/08 12:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

so is your computer
duh


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Coaster]
    #25507 - 05/11/08 12:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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its also wack cuz its so addicting




I guess I don't see addiction as a negative in itself, as long as the substance doesn't have substnatial negative side effects and is readily available. Like caffeine for example... over 90% of the adult population uses caffeine. It's highly addictive, and many users are addicted. But it doesn't matter as long as you have money, because you can just buy more when you run out. What makes tobacco different is that it is addictive and causes a lot of health problems in the long-term. Betel is certainly addictive... exactly how much of it is habit and how much is chemical dependence I don't know... but it doesn't seem any more addictive to me than caffeine. I dunno.


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Sativus]
    #25525 - 05/11/08 01:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I love sucking on nuts!




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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Ombient]
    #25526 - 05/11/08 01:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:yarly: :downsrim:


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Ombient]
    #25527 - 05/11/08 01:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Coaster]
    #25529 - 05/11/08 01:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Omg were did the purple go!!!???1!!


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: highasfuck]
    #25539 - 05/11/08 01:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

This is one of my favorites:



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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: andyistic]
    #25540 - 05/11/08 01:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ah yes, the natural hallucination video :strokebeard:


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Ombient]
    #25542 - 05/11/08 01:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I wish there were a way to prolong the effect without having to stare at the damn thing over and over.

Yeah, I could always take some acid, but you know what I mean.


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: andyistic]
    #25544 - 05/11/08 01:09 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yes there is a way, dr00gz :shocked:


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: andyistic]
    #25545 - 05/11/08 01:09 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That made me queezy watching the whole thing, but I stuck with it, and that's frreakin' cool.


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Sativus]
    #25547 - 05/11/08 01:10 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I love doing it after getting baked. :thumbup:


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: andyistic]
    #25548 - 05/11/08 01:11 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i love doing it too, after getting baked as well


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: andyistic]
    #25549 - 05/11/08 01:11 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, the kava just has me all fucked up and off-kilter right now... I guess I didn't need to brew up 2.5 ounces for the night's dose :lol:


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Sativus]
    #25550 - 05/11/08 01:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

how did u brew it


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Coaster]
    #25552 - 05/11/08 01:14 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I mixed 2 cups of milk, a few tablespoons of vegetable oil, and the kava powder in my blender, and let it run on the lowest setting for a few minutes, then poured the sludge into a glass.


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Sativus]
    #25553 - 05/11/08 01:14 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Whats the effects like?


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: highasfuck]
    #25556 - 05/11/08 01:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty much exactly like if I'd been toking and drank a couple beers, only a little spin-ier at the moment. Not like actual full on spins, but feeling seriously inebriated.


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Sativus]
    #25558 - 05/11/08 01:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I did gulp down a fat gourd of yerba mate (which has some MAOI properties), so that may be contributing to the kava being so effective.


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Coaster]
    #33895 - 05/19/08 03:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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that is insane


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Orvis]
    #33896 - 05/19/08 03:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

way to bring up a thread from a week ago


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33907 - 05/19/08 03:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)


:hehehe:


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: still beLIEve]
    #33909 - 05/19/08 03:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

A week ago is a long time.


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Re: I love sucking on nuts! [Re: Shroomism]
    #33912 - 05/19/08 03:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

especially on the growery


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
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