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Hermie?
    #220810 - 04/28/09 03:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hey all...just working on my first grow outside with 20 plants and the plants are about 2 months old but i was just wondering if this was a hermie...i pulled up 2 males 2 days ago and just checking.  Cant really tell but i tried to take the best pic i could.



Just looking for some feedback.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #220813 - 04/28/09 04:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

oh man you fucked up... that plant you posted a picture of is 100% male.

are you sure you didn't pull all the females?


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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #220838 - 04/28/09 06:37 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

thats a straight up male. btw where are you located???? i dont think your plant should be flowering right now unless it was planted months ago


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Re: Hermie? [Re: impgl]
    #220842 - 04/28/09 06:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Thought i spotted pistils as well but i went ahead and pulled them up.  I live on the East Coast.  NC 10miles inland.  I started them under an old HPS bulb late FEB and moved their pots outside pretty early and they have just been outside and i transplatned the females and i have like 10 Females in pots waiting to be transplanted.  But i have 5 in the ground if you check my grow log i just posted.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #220867 - 04/28/09 07:44 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, why would you pull the pistils off? that's the part that makes them a girl plant...

and thus follows my next question for the same reason

are you sure you have 10 females in pots? I think it's males you might have


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Re: Hermie? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #220871 - 04/28/09 07:51 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Like I mentioned in the other thread, that is 100% male.  Pull it ASAP.  Also, I hope those other 'males' you pulled weren't actually females...it seems your having trouble sexing your plants.

Also, that is strange that they are already flowering...what light cycle were you using under the HPS?

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Re: Hermie? [Re: AKSE]
    #220946 - 04/28/09 11:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i was wondering about the flowering as well


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Re: Hermie? [Re: impgl]
    #220978 - 04/29/09 05:10 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

When they first germinated they were under like a 20hour schedule with that light.  Then i moved the pots outside to like 14 hours of sunlight basically.  Then i moved 7 out of the pots into the ground and some started to flower.  I just wanted to start early to see what could happen.  And i ripped that one up, as well as two others.  I have about 17 females that are over 2 feet tall i suppose.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #221026 - 04/29/09 10:03 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I'm still not sure I believe a word you say. You can't even agree with yourself on the number of females you have (10, 17??).

Will you PLEASE post pictures of your other plants so we can see if they're female?

and also, will you PLEASE answer my question about pulling off the pistils?


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Re: Hermie? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #221119 - 04/29/09 01:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I didnt pull off the pistils?  I thought i spotted pistils as well as the pollen sacs so i kept it to see if it would be a hermie.  Lol dont believe me?  Your right im just making all this up just to waste time.  Check my grow log...  I pulled up the three remaining males which leaves me about 17 plants left.  I have 2 seedlings and 15 i know for sure are female.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #221155 - 04/29/09 03:09 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Thought i spotted pistils as well but i went ahead and pulled them up. 




:rolleyes: :nonono:


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Re: Hermie? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #221204 - 04/29/09 04:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yes i pulled the plants up.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #221206 - 04/29/09 04:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

hahaha lame why would you pull up females?

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Re: Hermie? [Re: Triptonic]
    #221211 - 04/29/09 04:22 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

lol yall are killing me...I thought the plant was a hermie but it is full male so i pulled it up.  No females were pulled up, i THOUGHT i saw pistils but i was mistaken.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #221215 - 04/29/09 04:26 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

lol alright man I guess it happens......google search the difference of male and female cannabis plants in images and it will help out with the confusion.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: Triptonic]
    #221297 - 04/29/09 06:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Let's see pictures of your females. 

Also, since you had them on 20/4 cycle, they have already gone into flowering.  Not necissarily a bad thing, but they will finish up sooner than the usual time around October.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: AKSE]
    #222113 - 05/01/09 01:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yea im going to take pics soon once i get 8 in the ground but i got more on my grow log i just posted like a week ago.  I will post the pics there and i ripped up all the males there were actually 5.  Soo i got 5 males out of 20.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #222302 - 05/02/09 08:59 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #222764 - 05/04/09 09:02 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

female... for the time being :wink:


keep an eye on them, if you had some go hermi, and they're all from the same seedstock, others might have the same tendency.


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Re: Hermie? [Re: Yrat]
    #222884 - 05/04/09 01:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yea im checking on them often.  Most of the seeds were from plants that a friend grew last year, some no name indica strain. im pretty sure that i isolated like right on time.  None of the pollen sacs seemed to open so now im just waiting.  What ratio of ferts should i use since they are flowering?

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #222948 - 05/04/09 06:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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What ratio of ferts should i use since they are flowering?




Well first of all, whatever Nitrogen-rich fertilizer you were using (if you were) to veg, stop using it now.  Now you want a fertilizer with high Phosphorous and Potassium.  So something along the lines of 0-5-5 would be a good choice.  Also, the fertilizer should have instructions on the proper mixture, i.e. 1tsp/gallon, or X amount per gallon per 1ft of plant height, etc.  They're all different.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: AKSE]
    #223463 - 05/06/09 11:54 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Also, since you had them on 20/4 cycle, they have already gone into flowering.  Not necissarily a bad thing, but they will finish up sooner than the usual time around October.





:confused:

please explain. 20/4 hour wouldnt put them into flower.

also, if they were outdoor and started to flower, the plants wouldnt finish early at all, they would eventually reveg and at the normal time.


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Re: Hermie? [Re: impgl]
    #223466 - 05/06/09 12:00 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

They wont go into flower on a 20/4 light cycle I dont believe.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: Triptonic]
    #223468 - 05/06/09 12:09 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i know, thas what i said


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Re: Hermie? [Re: impgl]
    #223469 - 05/06/09 12:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup: im agreeing with you.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: Triptonic]
    #223472 - 05/06/09 12:22 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

:tensegrin:


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Re: Hermie? [Re: impgl]
    #223605 - 05/06/09 06:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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impgl said:
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AKSE said: 

Also, since you had them on 20/4 cycle, they have already gone into flowering.  Not necissarily a bad thing, but they will finish up sooner than the usual time around October.





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please explain. 20/4 hour wouldnt put them into flower.

also, if they were outdoor and started to flower, the plants wouldnt finish early at all, they would eventually reveg and at the normal time.




You're right:yesnod:  Haha, I don't know what I was thinking at the time...maybe I wasn't.:lol::bongload:

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Re: Hermie? [Re: AKSE]
    #223918 - 05/07/09 01:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Each day i see improvements, so many more white hairs are appearing.  Not sure what caused them to flower early but its fine with me.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #223919 - 05/07/09 02:03 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Pics i took a week ago.






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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #223991 - 05/07/09 06:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

lookin good man.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #224192 - 05/08/09 05:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

nice


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Re: Hermie? [Re: Yrat]
    #224348 - 05/08/09 05:26 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I agree, they won't finish early at all, the buds are going to be wasted.  Once that light schedule catches up its going to reveg, lose all flowers, and then continue to veg until the normal flowering time of Oct. - Sept. It's not necessarily a problem unless you are counting on harvesting early summer.  Im sorry but that just isnt going to happen unless you are on/near the equator and have a local strain... just thinkin...


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Re: Hermie? [Re: Inverted]
    #224815 - 05/10/09 06:52 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I started the plants in Feb. so im pretty sure they are going to finish early.  Not exactly sure whats going to happen but i guess we'll see.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #224848 - 05/10/09 11:02 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

finishing flowering does not depend on when you start the plants, but rather when the hours of light/dark begin to reach 12/12.  this initiates flowering, which you hope finishes in time before the first deep frost.


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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #224851 - 05/10/09 11:35 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hey i live in NC as well  :dancingbacon:  :discorex:  :rockman:  :cactuar:  :legoman:

We should :getstoned: sometime. Just send a :pm:


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Re: Hermie? [Re: spacemonkey69]
    #224895 - 05/10/09 02:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

No i was just confused that my plants would be wasted...doesnt make sense to me.  I have had them in the 12/12 for at least a month and 1/2.  The last frost is like in Oct/Nov so everything should work out fine. 
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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #224897 - 05/10/09 03:41 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yes please yezumtek :rastana:


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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #224960 - 05/10/09 07:26 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

wait, so u had them at 12/12 and then stuck them outside??


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Re: Hermie? [Re: Yrat]
    #225243 - 05/11/09 05:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, started with 20/4 then went to 12/12 and then they went out side in pots.  Then i took 8 of the best females out of the pots and put them in the ground.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #225299 - 05/11/09 07:22 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

but why did u switch them over to 12/12 if they were just going to go outside to veg for the summer?


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Re: Hermie? [Re: Yrat]
    #225413 - 05/11/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yes I would like to know this too.....because now they are just going to have to revert back.....

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Re: Hermie? [Re: Triptonic]
    #225581 - 05/12/09 02:20 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I did it so they wouldnt start to flower when they were put outside.  They were not under the light 12/12 but for only like 2 weeks.  Besides shouldnt the plants just finish flowering and not revert back to veg growth?

Also, i got some fertilizer 7-22-8 how much should i add to the plants each month?  The directions tell me to add it to tomatoes once a month.  New pictures are going to be added to my grow log today about to go take them...

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #225585 - 05/12/09 02:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Once again, this is why we're confused;
Marijuana flowers when, and only when the light cycle is 12/12. So if your goal was to have them NOT flower when they were put outside, why on earth did you start them flowering indoors? You just did exactly what you said you didn't want to do. And then in the very next sentence you contradict yourself again by saying this;
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    #225619 - 05/12/09 03:51 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Once again, this is why we're confused;
Marijuana flowers when, and only when the light cycle is 12/12. So if your goal was to have them NOT flower when they were put outside, why on earth did you start them flowering indoors? You just did exactly what you said you didn't want to do. And then in the very next sentence you contradict yourself again by saying this;
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Besides shouldnt the plants just finish flowering and not revert back to veg growth?





:thumbup: Hairy ballsack... GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD yezumtek! lol

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Re: Hermie? [Re: Triptonic]
    #225624 - 05/12/09 04:02 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I would like to add that plants aren't really intelligent life forms (no brain) so they rely on the sun to tell them when to flower....this means that when they are getting more light that 12/12 they "think" it is still to early in the season to produce flowers. If they were under 12/12 they reverted to their flowering stage because you tricked them into thinking that it was the right season to produce flowers. But as soon as they realize that they have more light they are going to try to grow bigger....which will cause them to revert back to the vegetative stage.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: Triptonic]
    #225648 - 05/12/09 05:22 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yea i suppose i didnt give the early planting too much thought...I figured if i got them under the 12/12 early then they would stay flowering throughout the season/ or harvest early and plant more which i have three seedlings and three 2ft plants in pots.  Not really sure what i was thinking contridicting myself like that, lol i was wondering why yall kept asking me the same questions...

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #225651 - 05/12/09 05:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

lol no prob man.

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Re: Hermie? [Re: yezumtek]
    #225748 - 05/12/09 09:29 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

:lol: that sucks man, but fuck it, youll have some bigguns in the fall. you live, you learn :shrug:


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Re: Hermie? [Re: impgl]
    #225776 - 05/12/09 10:35 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

The buds that are on it now will just get stringy and airy while the plant continues to veg.  Once 12/12 light cycle kicks in, they'll start filling out again.:yesnod:

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Re: Hermie? [Re: AKSE]
    #226721 - 05/15/09 01:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Sweet thanks guys...learn something everyday

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