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Offline40_to_freedom
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why is good weed/hash always so harsh?
    #204682 - 03/11/09 03:09 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

hey Everyone i did some searching around and couldn't really find a good answer. But in my pretty big experience good weed/hash is always really harsh to smoke makes you cough etc. Is there a reason for this? I don't think I've ever found one but it almost always holds true so i was just wondering the reason behind this.. thanks everyone!


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #204683 - 03/11/09 03:13 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

maybe the danker she is, the more her smoke expands.

:shrug:

that's my take on it.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: MFDoom666]
    #204687 - 03/11/09 03:46 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

Yea I've come up with the same theory but why? Is it the THC content that's doing this because even when I get really good really dry nugs their still harsh as hell compared to middies or what ever, I wonder if there's some scientific reasoning haha


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #204692 - 03/11/09 04:12 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

i did the best i could lol.

maybe someone with more knowledge can answer if they ever read this.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #204722 - 03/11/09 05:17 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

I'm not to sure but it could be the acotone or butane, etc. used in the oil extracting process.

But that may not be right, tho it does sound good.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #204732 - 03/11/09 05:28 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

that would explain iso hash and BHO but not good weed or regular hash haha thanks for the input though!


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: MFDoom666]
    #204750 - 03/11/09 07:15 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

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MFDoom666 said:
maybe the danker she is, the more her smoke expands.

:shrug:

that's my take on it.




that's more what i was leaning towards. higher thc content=more thc smoke=more smoke expanding. wish i could explain better right now but i'm tired and :vaped: also a lot of "good herb" is really chem'd out so that has a lot to do with harshness


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: tsollost]
    #204754 - 03/11/09 08:07 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

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also a lot of "good herb" is really chem'd out so that has a lot to do with harshness




if it's flushed right that won't happen :nono:


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #204755 - 03/11/09 08:11 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

yeah just a lot of amateur ass people


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: tsollost]
    #204756 - 03/11/09 08:21 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

usually the better the weed i get the less harsh it is...


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #204758 - 03/11/09 08:27 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

i read somewhere that THC is an expectorant, but unfortunately i cannot find the article to back this up.. if its true then that would explain why dank is harsh


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: doulovebeef]
    #204759 - 03/11/09 08:30 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)



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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: doulovebeef]
    #204768 - 03/11/09 09:42 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

Good find, that is an interesting fact to know.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: doulovebeef]
    #204769 - 03/11/09 09:42 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

interesting article doulovebeef I wonder if it could be an instant expectorant though. I should clarify too, what I mean by harsh is you end up coughing after a hit more often or I should say more easily. And idk if any of you have had hash or anything like that but those hits leave you coughing your brains out! That's why I think its directly linked to THC content of what your smoking and I've heard people say THC expands in your lungs but have never seen any actual evidence or articles actually saying it.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #204772 - 03/11/09 09:49 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

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40_to_freedom said:
hey Everyone i did some searching around and couldn't really find a good answer. But in my pretty big experience good weed/hash is always really harsh to smoke makes you cough etc. Is there a reason for this? I don't think I've ever found one but it almost always holds true so i was just wondering the reason behind this.. thanks everyone!




you are a lightweight, thats all

man i could smoke an old tire and not cough.  thats how you get high.  moonajuana.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: GetTheFuckOut]
    #204776 - 03/11/09 10:18 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

The reason good bud makes you cough compared to other weed is two seperate reasons that intertwine. The first is the THC content, the higher the content the more likely the weed was cut and bagged as soon as possible to ensure freshness, the second is that bad weed is usually cured or  at least is neglected enough to cure while dank weed is usually just cut hung for a week max and bagged.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #204782 - 03/11/09 10:33 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

Sounds like amateur curing to me.  I agree that the good stuff should be less harsh.  Maybe what it is, is that the good herb is smoother, so you hit it harder, and realize too late what you've done?


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #204783 - 03/11/09 10:33 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

yea I do realize the fact that some bud is not cured properly but this doesn't account for hash, hash oil etc. to make you cough extremely hard off relatively less smoke. Thanks for the input though I'm dieing to get to the bottom of this!


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #204936 - 03/12/09 08:48 AM (10 years, 14 days ago)

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The reason good bud makes you cough compared to other weed is two seperate reasons that intertwine. The first is the THC content, the higher the content the more likely the weed was cut and bagged as soon as possible to ensure freshness, the second is that bad weed is usually cured or  at least is neglected enough to cure while dank weed is usually just cut hung for a week max and bagged.




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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: captain.koons]
    #204937 - 03/12/09 08:53 AM (10 years, 14 days ago)

what don't you understand captain?


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: captain.koons]
    #204938 - 03/12/09 08:55 AM (10 years, 14 days ago)

1. Unflushed weed = harsher
2. Uncured weed = harsher, yes that's right wet weed = more gross smoke that's why wet fire wood makes too much gross smoke.
3. LOW THC - higher thc = less unwanted plant matter such as tar, chlorophyll, crap that creates smoke, (also that bit about crappy weed being smoother could be because crappy weed is likely grown outside and better weed may not be flushed and grown indoors)

Out of all the strains ive grown and have smoked after being flushed and cured all of them hit nicely and you can take massive bong rips and if you cough it's just becuase you took too much / held it too long and it's an involuntary way of breathing... kinda like when youre drowning... not because it's too harsh. Your results may vary.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: captain.koons]
    #204940 - 03/12/09 09:04 AM (10 years, 14 days ago)

yeah you wouldn't think trying to quaff big ol clouds of noxious gasses would cause choking, eh?  :rolleyes:


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: GetTheFuckOut]
    #204941 - 03/12/09 09:11 AM (10 years, 14 days ago)

Have you guys ever had hash though? I mean yea I'm not trying to say it doesn't taste great and I wouldn't prefer good bud/hash, but I think it's a pretty well known fact that good bud and hash makes you cough more than regular stuff. I mean hash oil feels like your lungs are gonna explode from a little baby hit. THC content must play a role in this as the higher the content the more you cough. I mean I thought this was pretty common knowledge they even mention it in half baked for god sakes haha. I'm trying to find out WHY higher THC content creates more of a "coughing" smoke rather than what is causing it. it seems pretty obvious its the THC content as the purer the smoke be it bud/hash/oil the more your gonna cough.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #204950 - 03/12/09 10:03 AM (10 years, 14 days ago)

mix that shit with tobacco u will cough less.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: pong]
    #204957 - 03/12/09 11:01 AM (10 years, 14 days ago)

that's not the point, as i mentioned before i love good weed and i dont care that I cough more from good stuff. I'm looking for actual information on WHY


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #204958 - 03/12/09 11:03 AM (10 years, 14 days ago)

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Have you guys ever had hash though? I mean yea I'm not trying to say it doesn't taste great and I wouldn't prefer good bud/hash, but I think it's a pretty well known fact that good bud and hash makes you cough more than regular stuff. I mean hash oil feels like your lungs are gonna explode from a little baby hit. THC content must play a role in this as the higher the content the more you cough. I mean I thought this was pretty common knowledge they even mention it in half baked for god sakes haha. I'm trying to find out WHY higher THC content creates more of a "coughing" smoke rather than what is causing it. it seems pretty obvious its the THC content as the purer the smoke be it bud/hash/oil the more your gonna cough.





organic matter + flame = noxious gasses

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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: GetTheFuckOut]
    #204959 - 03/12/09 11:10 AM (10 years, 14 days ago)

yea i understand that man. that's not what I'm saying or don't understand.I'm asking why you cough MORE with higher THC content. That's why I went into the hash oil thing, that stuff makes you cough way more off comparatively less smoke, what about THC makes you cough your brains out? Or why does higher THC content= more coughing off less smoke.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #204963 - 03/12/09 11:40 AM (10 years, 14 days ago)

i dont know who says good herb is smoother,  because when i go to the clubs, i get the dank og kush, and i cant stop coughin. imo more cough better the weed, unless your coughing because it tastes like dirt weed and your smoking miracle grow


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #205482 - 03/14/09 08:22 AM (10 years, 12 days ago)

Well middies are grown in fields and are thus organically grown, most good homegrown weed isn't organic. Try growing some dank organic goodness and see if it is harsh...

I've mostly smoked organic weed, and anything that I've smoked that is organic, dank or not, was SMOOTH.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #205497 - 03/14/09 11:06 AM (10 years, 12 days ago)

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interesting article doulovebeef I wonder if it could be an instant expectorant though. I should clarify too, what I mean by harsh is you end up coughing after a hit more often or I should say more easily. And idk if any of you have had hash or anything like that but those hits leave you coughing your brains out! That's why I think its directly linked to THC content of what your smoking and I've heard people say THC expands in your lungs but have never seen any actual evidence or articles actually saying it.




If you compare it to the purge of ayahuasca that cleans the stomach, the coughing can be a purge of the lungs.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: The_Centre]
    #205606 - 03/14/09 04:57 PM (10 years, 12 days ago)

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Well middies are grown in fields and are thus organically grown, most good homegrown weed isn't organic. Try growing some dank organic goodness and see if it is harsh...

I've mostly smoked organic weed, and anything that I've smoked that is organic, dank or not, was SMOOTH.




organic isn't smoother than properly flushed refined nutrients - it is believed by several breeders that organic weed has to taste different because it leaves behind something in the weed on that note it can't be smoother than flushed refined nutrient grown weed.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #205635 - 03/14/09 08:24 PM (10 years, 12 days ago)

1. The way it was made either with a solvent or no solvent.
2. Type of weed
3. Was never cured.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: BulkBread]
    #205713 - 03/15/09 05:32 AM (10 years, 11 days ago)

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1. The way it was made either with a solvent or no solvent.
2. Type of weed
3. Was never cured.




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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: MFDoom666]
    #205726 - 03/15/09 09:41 AM (10 years, 11 days ago)

also the high thc / cannaboloid content to less harsh of taste would be a correlation not a fact


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: captain.koons]
    #205733 - 03/15/09 10:42 AM (10 years, 11 days ago)

ive had dank weed that was smooth and tasted good and ive had dank weed that was harsh ( come to think of it never had dank that tasted bad) but ive also had middies that were smooth and harsh middies i can only guess and say its how well they cured/flushed the bud


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: Big_tiggy]
    #205740 - 03/15/09 11:57 AM (10 years, 11 days ago)

I don't know what you folks are talking about but I don't find good hash to be overly harsh at all. You have to figure that you're smoking an extremely concentrated substance so the smoke is going to be pretty potent but I think it goes down easier than most herb. I've been hot kniving 3 different kinds of hash all day for the past 2 days and I've been marveling over how smooth the hits are. Maybe you just need to work on your technique? Besides, coughing is a good thing since it cleans your lungs and for some reason it seems you even get higher after a huge body-wretching coughing fit.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: elcharrosays]
    #205764 - 03/15/09 02:44 PM (10 years, 11 days ago)

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Besides, coughing is a good thing since it cleans your lungs and for some reason it seems you even get higher after a huge body-wretching coughing fit.




:cuckoo:

that's ur brain being cut off from o2 cuz u cant take a decent inhale while ur busy coughing up all that shit u just put in ur lungs
as for actually clearing out your lungs, yes, if there's something to clear out. the last few weeks i've had bronchitis because i went back to the bong and started coughin shit up again. as soon as i switch back to vaping, THEN i expectorate all that shit.

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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #205772 - 03/15/09 03:23 PM (10 years, 11 days ago)

I think with super good herb, the potency is just so high that the smoke is in essence, "concentrated". example.... Like doing laundry with a new concentrated detergent, compared to an older un concentrated detergent. You use way less to get the same outcome.
  I have played with the notion that, we waste alot of highs, by taking huge lung filling fits and then exhaling the rest into the open air. now take a small hit and very little comes out of your lungs but you still end up pretty much as high as you were by taking them monster hits.
  So what i am saying is,  the concentration of actives in good herbal smoke compared to the actives in not so good herbal smoke, is what makes you have the cough reaction. Just a theory :wink:


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: SpaceMonkey]
    #205877 - 03/15/09 11:19 PM (10 years, 10 days ago)

That's my theory too, the concentration of THC is higher there for you cough more, but why does THC cause coughing? and as another poster said, yes at this point it is correlation the whole point of the post is to find some solid evidence of causation, I think it's beyond proven the higher the THC the more likely you are to be coughing after a hit. But there has to be a scientific reason for THC making people cough.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #205893 - 03/15/09 11:54 PM (10 years, 10 days ago)

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elcharrosays said:
Besides, coughing is a good thing since it cleans your lungs and for some reason it seems you even get higher after a huge body-wretching coughing fit.




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that's ur brain being cut off from o2 cuz u cant take a decent inhale while ur busy coughing up all that shit u just put in ur lungs
as for actually clearing out your lungs, yes, if there's something to clear out. the last few weeks i've had bronchitis because i went back to the bong and started coughin shit up again. as soon as i switch back to vaping, THEN i expectorate all that shit.

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I've heard explanations that when you cough you force the smoke deep down into your lungs where it wasn't before coughing and that's why you get higher. I don't know if it's true/accurate but it seemed to make sense to me.


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: captain.koons]
    #205895 - 03/16/09 12:02 AM (10 years, 10 days ago)

but when u cough the smoke goes out.
there's not much time for an inhale except for between fits of coughing.
other than that, ur exhaling the whole time hence no o2 to the noggin

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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #205914 - 03/16/09 12:24 AM (10 years, 10 days ago)

pretend your coughing up a lung....

between coughs you gasp which would force smoke down into your lungs.

you just don't exhale constantly


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: captain.koons]
    #205931 - 03/16/09 01:05 AM (10 years, 10 days ago)

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MistaUNGA said:

there's not much time for an inhale except for between fits of coughing.
other than that, ur exhaling the whole time hence no o2 to the noggin





ok just so we're on the same page
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Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: 40_to_freedom]
    #224752 - 05/09/09 11:32 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

to me there is a difference between being harsh or just some bud that makes you cough your ass off. Harsh is nasty shitty throat burning bullshit, but dank nugs aren't harsh at all, they just make you cough from being dank as fuck. i'm thinking the OP really meant the latter?


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Re: why is good weed/hash always so harsh? [Re: Shiesty Von W]
    #225152 - 05/11/09 01:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Dank "tickles" the throught in a way, from all the thc getting stuck on your throught, and makes you cough, but shit weed, is just a nouxious gas that fucks up your lungs and makes you cough.


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