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 HELP MY SICK PLANT! 
#672768 - 05/27/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi there guys need help . I am using fox farms oceanic soil, 2 foot t5 bulbs and botanicare fert 20 hrs on 4 hrs off soil run off ph 5.40.
She was doing fine then the leaves the last two days started doing a taco effect folding up in half .
The day before i flushed the root system with water then added fert like normal,gave it a day they continued folding while the very tip turned black . I think it was possible mg deficient from some reading . so i made a solution yesterday one table spoon calcium one table spoon Epsom salt one quart of water mixed and watered ......toward the end of the nigh the leaves started opening up normal un taco-ing if you will. I woke up this morning to find this
did i over feed ?
over water ?
over fert ?\
I have a fan on low in it and the light are raised to high for it to be heat.
  
it was falling over so i proped it up ....
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 Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672769 - 05/27/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Man You did alot to that plant could be over watered? What the water schedule like?
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hey im on my frist grow but I am also using foxfarm.. and had some probs with the ph and nutes.
how old are the plants?
how often do u water and how much do u give to each plant?
what is the ph of the water that you give to your plants?
how big are the pots the plants are in?
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: Mrshroom]
#672772 - 05/27/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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pots are 5 gal i water twice a week mostly wait till the soil is dry . ph of the water i gave it is 5.57 ph . the plant is about two hit 2 week of veg and i start counting after it had 4 real leaves i grew from seed.
the real question is if i leave it the fuck alone will it recover lol or does this require action ?
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672773 - 05/27/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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the food ratio is pro gro and its one tablespoon and one half teaspoon mixed with one gallon along with one table spoon of Epsom salt and calcium.
i also added a hand full of gypsum to the soil for when the plant gets bigger.
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672774 - 05/27/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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i figured if it was over fert i would see some color change not what looks to me to be healthy lush growth ?
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672775 - 05/27/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
skuzzy1232 said:
pots are 5 gal i water twice a week mostly wait till the soil is dry . ph of the water i gave it is 5.57 ph . the plant is about two hit 2 week of veg and i start counting after it had 4 real leaves i grew from seed.
the real question is if i leave it the fuck alone will it recover lol or does this require action ?
That is one of the problems your ph should be 6.5 Plus your watering to much I think i water mine ever two weeks or so as needed! My 5 gallon buckets stay wet for that long and i use a 400mh light
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dude your ph is way to low.. that is more for hydro. you are getting nutrient lock out. I had a big prob from my ph being low.. I was phing my water around 6.2-6.3 wich was still a little to low.. and the plants starting doing a lot better when I starting phing around 6.8-6.9.
also how much water are you giving your plants when u water.. cause they way they are drooping kinda looks like how my plants will droop if I got a day or two too long with out watering.
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: Mrshroom]
#672779 - 05/27/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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i do a circle around the pot edge with a gallon of water till run off.
so now how do i raise ph without hurting it further baking soda ??
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672783 - 05/27/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
skuzzy1232 said:
i do a circle around the pot edge with a gallon of water till run off.
so now how do i raise ph without hurting it further baking soda ??
go to your local hydro store and buy some ph up. or online if you have no hydro/grow stores near you.
as for watering do you just take the gallon and go over it in a circle and poor al of it at once?? Or do you poor some over it.. let it drain threw for then poor some more over and over till you use it all?
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: Mrshroom]
#672789 - 05/27/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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i do a circle around the pot edge with a gallon of water till run off.
so now how do i raise ph without hurting it further baking soda ??
go to your local hydro store and buy some ph up. or online if you have no hydro/grow stores near you.
as for watering do you just take the gallon and go over it in a circle and poor al of it at once?? Or do you poor some over it.. let it drain threw for then poor some more over and over till you use it all?
I water mine both ways and i also use alot more water !
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about half
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672798 - 05/27/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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orderd ph up .... think it will be alright ?
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672799 - 05/27/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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What ?? half?
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skuzzy1232
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half a gallon of water then i water ,, usually then i drain real well ,,,till the soil is at field capacity.
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672811 - 05/27/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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umm if you are using a pot that holds 5 gallons of soil, and your using a half gallon of water that is not enoff. i use almost a gallon and half for my plants that are in pots that hold 5 gallons of soil
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: Mrshroom]
#672812 - 05/27/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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I pure 3 to 4 gallons in each 5 gallon bucket in a time span of half hour . works great for me!
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well its definitely not under watered .
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672816 - 05/27/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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very nice bro ..
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672818 - 05/27/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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just checked all the leaves are still nice and green zero change so i guess its good its not getting worse ..
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672820 - 05/27/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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skuzzy1232
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ok so i think that its nutrient toxicity ,,,,all the leaves are super dark green and laying flat ....
steps i just took .
1. flushed with water drain repeat ,,,till water coming out of the bottom was a little clear.
2. put a chop stick in there and supported the stem with very light ties to the chop stick ..... NOW I WAIT .
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672826 - 05/27/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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well with flushing you should be using 3 times the amount of water that u have in soil
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: Mrshroom]
#672827 - 05/27/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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which is why i did it in the shower ,. at room temp ... well as close as i could figure .
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672828 - 05/27/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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 I think it should be ok
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cool thanks to the both of you lol iv only ever grown shrooms just became a patient so trying to get decent stuff for myself and wife.
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672831 - 05/27/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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me too me and my wife!!!!!! I have this going!
Critical plus strain
Smells like fruit loops!!
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672833 - 05/27/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
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which is why i did it in the shower ,. at room temp ... well as close as i could figure .
that should do it for flushing then. make sure that when u do the next watering that your soil is really dry.. not just a inch down the top of the soil, you want to make sure that the roots have time to get air and dry a little so they don't rot by keeping them soaking wet non stop.. and good luck on your first grow, im doing my 1st grow also. im not a patient but im a caregiver.
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: Mrshroom]
#672834 - 05/27/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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cool !! thanks so much
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672855 - 05/28/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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 went in this morning she is supporting two stems on her own !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672856 - 05/28/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh and the color is not as dark  they were super dark before flush.
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672857 - 05/28/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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before notice the soil is not dry .....this plant did this after watering which is why i flushed it with clean water ..
this morning ..
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672864 - 05/28/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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after showing those two pics I think it was lack of water that caused that drooping
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: Mrshroom]
#672865 - 05/28/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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now let the poor thing go for a while, looks like it needs a little recovery.
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: PoloDown]
#672878 - 05/28/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
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now let the poor thing go for a while, looks like it needs a little recovery.
leave it alone!
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: Mrshroom]
#672923 - 05/28/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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after showing those two pics I think it was lack of water that caused that drooping
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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but i water often and until it runs out the bottom but i guess i need to pay more attention thanks every one :} illleave it alone lol ill repost the grow journal here :O)
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672963 - 05/29/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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the plant stands up better all the leaves tho are doing this with purple at the tips ....  
still leave alone ??
is this from flushing ?
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672966 - 05/29/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think I'm going to take that conclusion back. If it was just an underwatering issue, it would have bounced back fully.
To be a bit blunt, I think your plant is going to die, and there isn't much you could do at this point by looks of it.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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its cool i got two more that are still baby's just trying to figure out what the hell happened in three days lol
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672969 - 05/29/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok i have been adding fert via direcions on the pro grow bottle . did i over feed ??
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672970 - 05/29/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Possibly, it's not your classic presentation of overfert. If you've been overwatering, there's a possibility it could be damping off.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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got ya im going to continue to leave it alone and see what happens ..
to be honest i do not know when to start feeding the plant fert .... i waited till it had four real leaves and started feeding slow ...
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672984 - 05/29/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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The soil should have plenty of nutes for a solid 4-6 weeks, depending on how big of a container you are in, also keep in mind that when you transplant to a new container, there's new nutrients available.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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right i use five gallon pot .
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Re: HELP MY SICK PLANT! [Re: skuzzy1232]
#672994 - 05/29/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Then that has plenty of nutrients for quite awhile. And when watering you need to make sure that you are giving at least a couple of gallons of water each watering.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Quote:
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Then that has plenty of nutrients for quite awhile. And when watering you need to make sure that you are giving at least a couple of gallons of water each watering.
I give my 5 galloners atleast 3 gallon every water.
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