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Is it time? *UPDATE HARVEST
    #479276 - 09/18/10 06:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have read that harvesting when trichomes are milky is good for an "uppy high". Look and share your thoughts.



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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479278 - 09/18/10 06:52 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I see a few ambers, and I dont want couchlock, lol.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479281 - 09/18/10 06:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'd wait for another opinion, but if it is not time, it is pretty damned close. I think harvest has a bit of opinion to it due to it supposedly changing the high a little. If you don't want couchlock, it most likely is time in my opinion, maybe even a bit past time.

Jorges grow bible says to take full advantage of the sativa strain (non couchlock high) you harvest when they are clear/milky colored, and do not wait until amber.

Then for when you have an indica and want to take advantage of the couchlock to harvest when almost all of them are amber.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #479308 - 09/18/10 08:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

What bites my ass is that I fed her today, not noticing the trichs till later. Would a good 3 day flush work? It is soil outdoor, unknown genetics.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #479309 - 09/18/10 08:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

let it go another week or so ,it still looks like there are lots of white pistils


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Re: Is it time? [Re: dmtcorey]
    #479316 - 09/18/10 08:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thats what I figured. And yeah, the original pistils turned, but there are much more now. Im so excited!


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479318 - 09/18/10 08:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You should go to RadioShack and grab a cheap $13 microscope to see the trichomes http://www.radioshack.com/pwr/product-reviews/Cables-Parts-Connectors/Tools-soldering-equipment/Magnifiers/RadioShack/p/2179604-Illuminated-Microscope.html I got this one and it's been sooooooo helpful. It's 60x-100x zoom and you can see everything, trichomes, hook trichomes, bugs and sometimes it even feels like I can almost see the stomata. IMO the only way to truly tell if your plant is ready for harvest is to magnify the 'chomes and take a good look. You can also use it to check out bud before you buy it and see if it's good.

I honestly can't even tell you how great that little thing is, it's so worth the $13. There are other microscopes like the 420 scope but they just slap an extra $20 on it because of the name :thumbdown: it's pretty much identical to other cheaper ones.

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Re: Is it time? [Re: HeathcliffHuxtable]
    #479323 - 09/18/10 08:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, thats pretty cheap! Thanks man :thumbup:


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479330 - 09/18/10 08:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Microscope helps, but you can clearly see amber trichomes in the first pic. I would say the week wait would definatly give him more weight, but more of a couchlock. I think most of us harvest for the weight.



Going by his book, he says that max thc is when they are milky and amber is when they are starting to degrade. The last image goes into detail about harvesting for the certain highs.

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Re: Is it time? [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #479338 - 09/18/10 09:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah Lays, I can see them. bout 10% at least. This is what ive read...
You've managed to make it to the end. You've maintained your plants well, now it's getting closer to harvest time, and you're wondering just how and when to harvest and dry those beautiful buds. Hopefully I can give you some insight into how this can be successfully done; the do's and dont's of proper harvesting and curing. First, lets take a look at the harvest side of things.Timing of your harvest is critical! Harvesting at maximum ripeness is the key. In my experience, there is usually a five to seven day window when the Cannabis plant will be at maximum ripeness. To understand this, you will need a jeweler’s loupe, or magnifying lens, light optional. I would recommend a power of 30x or better, but you can get by with less. A greater magnification makes it much easier to see the trichome heads at the top of the stalked resin glands.Resin gland color, potency, and type of highGland color will vary with ripeness of the individual THC glands, starting at clear, turning to milky, then turning to an amber color. There may be some exceptions, such as some of the Blue strains and Blackberry. These will have darker, sometimes purple gland heads. But by far and large, these three steps of ripeness will exist with the vast majority of strains on the market. The first stage, clear, will tend to make for a more cerebral, up high, with very little body effect. Harvesting at this stage when little if any trichomes are milky yet, can be tricky. Harvesting too early can make for a beautiful plant that will not have much psychoactive capability! THC needs to "mature" to be able to pass its psychoactive capabilities down to the smoker. This is why I always recommend waiting until 50% of the trichomes hit the second stage: milky or creamy. At this point, you will definitely have a plant which has reached its genetic potential.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479344 - 09/18/10 09:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Going by the pics I'd wait a week before pulling if I was you.

Now if it was my plant I'd wait 2 weeks at the very least.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: Magash]
    #479345 - 09/18/10 10:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Why, you like golden trichs? Or because of calyx growth?


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479349 - 09/18/10 10:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Because the buds don't look mature and taste and smell are gonna suffer. As far as couchlock goes it's more a mater of strain the trichs. Indica is gonna be couchlock no matter when you harvest it and it's as simple as that. Sativa is a up high and so on. Yeah there is a difference in amber and milky but the difference is slight at most.

In other words you aren't gonna turn a couchlock strain up high or vise verse.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: Magash]
    #479426 - 09/19/10 06:03 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

10-4. Magash is gonna show up at my door with a learning stick. before all is said and done, lol. One final question if you come back. Do you chop the whole plant, or pick for ripeness?


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479447 - 09/19/10 08:54 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You know it depends. I usually go for ripeness depending on what kind of time I have and how much I have to harvest. The best option is to pick for ripeness if you can. :potleaf:


When you do harvest if it's still sunny and going to be in your area harvest the buds and leave as much of the plant in the ground as you can even if you take every bud. The reason is I have harvested the buds off of plants and have come back to have them complete re-bud. :wexican:



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Re: Is it time? [Re: Magash]
    #479450 - 09/19/10 09:00 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I wish it were warm enough to do that here.  :frown:

I was going to say, on a small scale, go for ripeness.  But when dealing with larger loads, one doesn't have the time or patience to inspect and cut every top as they finish. :wink:  That's way too much work.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: Inverted]
    #479462 - 09/19/10 09:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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You should go to RadioShack and grab a cheap $13 microscope to see the trichomes




http://www.rvfgardensupply.com/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=704477

I'd spend the extra 5 bucks and buy a better scope.  That radio shack scope is a POS.  It works ok I suppose, but for a couple extra dollars you can buy something that is much easier to use and better constructed. 

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Re: Is it time? [Re: coda]
    #479501 - 09/19/10 10:32 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ican get better macros, but I can see trichs fine here...


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479503 - 09/19/10 10:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry, stoner moment. Im here via PS3, and zoom with the flick of a finger.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479505 - 09/19/10 10:40 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Tell ya what, Im gonna harvest at varying stages of trichome development, recording all factors, and will post better macros later if I deem one ready.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479525 - 09/19/10 11:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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CaptainCaveman said:
Ican get better macros, but I can see trichs fine here...




I used a jewlers loupe and you do get a really good look at them with a microscope others are talking about, I think you could get away with your cam though if it gets better than that and you don't want to spend money on one.

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Tell ya what, Im gonna harvest at varying stages of trichome development, recording all factors, and will post better macros later if I deem one ready.




I'm interested in hearing if it effects the high, most plants I see on the market are hybrids nowadays :shrug:.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #479529 - 09/19/10 11:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Tell ya what, Im gonna harvest at varying stages of trichome development, recording all factors, and will post better macros later if I deem one ready.



sounds like the best plan ! i want to build a special box just for experimenting and inducing problems so i can get my study on!


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Re: Is it time? [Re: dmtcorey]
    #479587 - 09/19/10 03:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That does sound like a good plan, and yeah experimentation is very fun. I'm trying to grow good bud right now in soil under cfl's as fast as possible, while I have my other big plants flowering outside


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Re: Is it time? [Re: HeathcliffHuxtable]
    #482779 - 09/27/10 11:19 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I had to pull a week earlier than I wanted. There was some damaged nugs that had went to mould thanks to caterpillars. We are expecting a few good days of high humidity, heat, and rain. So, I pulled, trimmed, and here are some illustrations.
These are various nugs. Some too early, some just right.




This is what was left after the caterpillars were ejected from the buffet.



Well, look at that POUND!! Okay, so I fell short of my lofty goal, but I did learn alot. I still can accomplish a major motivator that originally set me into the field. I KNEW, lol, when smoking the bud this seed came from, that I could grow it sen semilla, as well as cure it better. Forgive my manicure, it was my first in a very long time, and I was ill prepared. Thanks for all your support. Its time to spark a bowl.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: CaptainCaveman]
    #482895 - 09/27/10 06:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Looks nice :billymaythumbup: I can't see any damage from the caterpillars

Unfortunately I too had to chop 2 (k?)colas and trim them. I accidentally broke them trying to low stress train them. Ended up just bending the stems too much and they snapped :facepalm: One was very premature and the other was just slightly


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Re: Is it time? [Re: HeathcliffHuxtable]
    #482995 - 09/28/10 01:56 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

How did you take those weird close-up pics?


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Re: Is it time? [Re: Psuper]
    #483006 - 09/28/10 05:53 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks Hethcliff! As far as the damage, it was only a few nugs on the colas. They are the bare spots you may notice in the 2 colas. Wasnt much.
Psuper, I just used a pocket microscope and a regular digital camera.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: HeathcliffHuxtable]
    #483041 - 09/28/10 10:15 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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HeathcliffHuxtable said: (k?)colas









I'm pretty sure its cola. Kola would be too much like koala. Which is kinda like :kodama:



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Re: Is it time? [Re: RasJeph]
    #486019 - 10/07/10 10:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

final weight?

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Re: Is it time? [Re: weezy420]
    #486322 - 10/09/10 01:49 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

A laughable 1/2 ounce.


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Re: Is it time? [Re: RasJeph]
    #486324 - 10/09/10 02:07 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure its cola. Kola would be too much like koala. Which is kinda like :kodama:





you mean drop bears?

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Re: Is it time? [Re: lucas_southoz]
    #486426 - 10/09/10 04:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:


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