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Why do I like Cali?
    #445701 - 07/12/10 11:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

There are now more pot clubs in Cali then 7-11s, McDonald's, and Starbucks combined. Gotta love it. :omgawesome:


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Magash]
    #445703 - 07/12/10 11:34 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

cant wait till i move to cali and get my license


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: iStoner]
    #445709 - 07/12/10 11:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

No way man, post some statistical data on that one. You know how many 7-11's their are in 1 city alone, let alone Starbucks? McDonalds? Their are at least 5,000 of those 3 where I live and maybe 100-300 dispensaries.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: fungi]
    #445713 - 07/13/10 12:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

It's in the new special that was aired tonight on the National Geographic channel. Those statistics are not hard to find either. It's very well known there are over 2000 clubs in the LA area alone. In San Francisco I can do business with 4 clubs without walking more a block, with 20 without driving more then a mile.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/foo_mcd_res-food-mcdonalds-restaurants

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starbucks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Eleven

Since there are only 451 McDonalds in the entire state, 7-11 has 7750 stores in the entire country, http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jul/24/business/fi-seven-eleven24/2 ; and Starbucks has 11068 stores in the entire United States so this can't be true
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. You know how many 7-11's their are in 1 city alone, let alone Starbucks? McDonalds? Their are at least 5,000 of those 3 where I live and maybe 100-300 dispensaries.








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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Magash]
    #445715 - 07/13/10 12:06 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i watched that.
i wanna open one of those coffe shops in the netherlands that sells weed


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: iStoner]
    #445721 - 07/13/10 12:12 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Why the Netherlands?


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Don King]
    #445731 - 07/13/10 12:26 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Why the Netherlands?



idk anywhere i guess :shrug:


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Magash]
    #445733 - 07/13/10 12:28 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like overkill and something that will naturally decrease once the "buzz" does.  The number of dispensaries that is.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Tangerines]
    #445737 - 07/13/10 12:34 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You know Tangerines I keep thinking the same thing but new clubs keep opening and less and less are getting busted. I have to also admit I've never seen a club that does bad business or a owner that has ever said "how am I gonna get rid of all this weed". :wink:


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Magash]
    #445742 - 07/13/10 12:55 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I was just saying that while it is booming now there has to be a natural limit.  Plus, if capitalism has any foothold in the business, there will be less stores but bigger stores servicing the area eventually.  It sure is interesting to watch it play out though.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Tangerines]
    #445743 - 07/13/10 01:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I was reading the outstanding quote from magash, so I had to look it up in Google:

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In California there seem to be more outlets for cannibusiness – dispensaries, co-operatives, wellness clinics and taxi delivery services – than all the Starbucks, McDonald's and 7-Eleven stores in the state combined. Since November 1996, when Proposition 215 (the Compassionate Act) was voted into law, the number of medical marijuana dispensaries in California has skyrocketed to more 800. There were only 183 in 2007. In case the dispensary is too far away, or you are too stoned to go out and get weed, a secondary industry has developed in which couriers are employed to deliver it to your door, like pizza. Given grass's propensity to give one the munchies, this is a handy way to kill two birds using one stone.




http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/lets-all-go-to-pot-20100612-y4i7.html


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Tangerines]
    #445756 - 07/13/10 05:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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I was just saying that while it is booming now there has to be a natural limit.  Plus, if capitalism has any foothold in the business, there will be less stores but bigger stores servicing the area eventually.  It sure is interesting to watch it play out though.




I believe it has already started happening. I heard the average price for a pound of medical grade is down nearly 40% because of the oversupply. Ive been hearing people getting lbs. for 1800-2200 now-a-days

Plus Cali is super gay. If you just want to smoke weed legally, go to Colorado.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Tangerines]
    #445759 - 07/13/10 06:21 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

After alcohol prohibition ended, alcohol producers didn't hit their peak for years. Not saying Weed will take the same course, but I think there is gonna be a window after legalization where there will be a lot of money to be made :evil:

As far as price, some good cali bud can be had for 700-800 per qp hundreds of miles away, delivered. SOME people are getting desperate down south.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #445762 - 07/13/10 06:48 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I like where I live, because I could sell pounds for 3,500-4,000 all day.


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Inverted]
    #445765 - 07/13/10 06:56 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

It used to be like that here. Then the market kind of split between cheap medical bud, and expensive street prices. I think we know what side won out :stoned:

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Inverted]
    #445810 - 07/13/10 09:53 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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I like where I live, because I could sell pounds for 3,500-4,000 all day.





Buyin em for 2 sellin em for 4


thats how it goes in the non med states :rastamon:


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #445827 - 07/13/10 10:23 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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I like where I live, because I could sell pounds for 3,500-4,000 all day.




^^^^^ This goes for me too.


"Growin' low, sellin high.

thats how it goes in the non med states :rastamon:"

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: DieselB]
    #445840 - 07/13/10 10:41 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Holy shit.

The price per g around here would add up to $11,200 a lb.


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #445845 - 07/13/10 10:53 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

:shocked:

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #445847 - 07/13/10 10:56 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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:shocked:





Thats at the price per gram though.


Idk if that's normal. :shrug:

Comes from Colorado.

They charge 25 a gram, and they move a lot of it too.  :confused:


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #445850 - 07/13/10 10:58 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Highway robbery.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #445851 - 07/13/10 10:58 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:

you pay 25/ ea

I feel so bad for you, I wouldn't evenn smoke weed if that was the case

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Harlz]
    #445855 - 07/13/10 11:02 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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:lol:

you pay 25/ ea

I feel so bad for you, I wouldn't even smoke weed if that was the case




Its why I smoke schwag.

Quarters are the same price as a gram.


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #445859 - 07/13/10 11:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Last time I smoked schwag, we blasted an 8th through a hookah and all ended up passing out on the floor for 2 hours. Didn't even get high, just fell asleep.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #445861 - 07/13/10 11:09 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Last time I smoked schwag, we blasted an 8th through a hookah and all ended up passing out on the floor for 2 hours. Didn't even get high, just fell asleep.




I conserve my schwag. Like a half bowl if I hit it right will get me high as bawls.

and I probably smoke one or two bowls of the good a week.


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #445865 - 07/13/10 11:10 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Shit man. If was ever to smoke you up you'd be peeing in your pants.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #445867 - 07/13/10 11:12 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Shit man. If was ever to smoke you up you'd be peeing in your pants.




:shrug: I'm planning on trying to lower the prices in town.

One of my friends dads just got a "green card."


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #445899 - 07/13/10 12:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yea yesterday I got the worst bong sweats Ive ever encountered off some dank, I thought for sure I was gonna pass out or choke or vomit, but  I made it through and it resulted in an ungodly highness.. Now Im hoping for the same results in about 10 mins :bonghit:

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Harlz]
    #445915 - 07/13/10 12:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

:flipthebird:


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #446001 - 07/13/10 05:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

25 per g?  Jesus Christ, maybe when I was like 13 I'd see prices like that lol.  Fuck, paying 40-50 per 1/8 was expensive enough I couldn't imagine 70-80$ 1/8's.

It's threads like these that makes me glad I have a closet full of plants and a small commode table filled with quart jars of nugs :laugh:


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: coda]
    #446031 - 07/13/10 06:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

To Growing Your Own  :bonghit2:



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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: coda]
    #446035 - 07/13/10 06:16 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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25 per g?  Jesus Christ, maybe when I was like 13 I'd see prices like that lol.  Fuck, paying 40-50 per 1/8 was expensive enough I couldn't imagine 70-80$ 1/8's.

It's threads like these that makes me glad I have a closet full of plants and a small commode table filled with quart jars of nugs :laugh:




Wish I could do the same. :shrug:


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #446049 - 07/13/10 06:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

In New Orleans it is $20/ gram.  In Oakland, there is no price per gram.  $20 gets you 1.3-2g from a dealer.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: SmOakland]
    #446053 - 07/13/10 06:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Oakland lost 80 cops today :sad:

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    #446061 - 07/13/10 06:57 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Oakland lost 80 cops today :sad:




They can just be freelance assholes now.  JK the cops in Oakland are cool.  Never had a negative experience with one.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: SmOakland]
    #446080 - 07/13/10 08:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

whats the story with the cops?  protest over that execution?


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: coda]
    #446084 - 07/13/10 09:09 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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25 per g?  Jesus Christ, maybe when I was like 13 I'd see prices like that lol.  Fuck, paying 40-50 per 1/8 was expensive enough I couldn't imagine 70-80$ 1/8's.

It's threads like these that makes me glad I have a closet full of plants :laugh:




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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #446086 - 07/13/10 09:26 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

City can't afford them anymore. This gonna happen all over cali with state workers. They can't reach agreements on contracts.

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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #446168 - 07/14/10 09:04 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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whats the story with the cops?  protest over that execution?




HUGE deficit.


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Re: Why do I like Cali? [Re: Magash]
    #446411 - 07/14/10 07:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Why do I like Cali?....




Because I can wakeboard, surf, & snowboard damn near year round...All less than a 2 hour drive from where I live.


There's been times when i've gone snowboarding, then wakeboarding the next day...Then went and chilled at the beach the following day....






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