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 RasJeph
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 Dark period at the end of flowering? 
#429026 - 06/05/10 10:48 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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So, I read somewhere in a plant description on a seedbank that "its best to give her 5 days of pure darkness before harvesting so she can fill out" or something like that.
I'd never heard of this, but it was pretty interesting to me.
Anyone ever tried this? Is it a good or bad idea?
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: RasJeph]
#429030 - 06/05/10 11:09 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh man, i wouldn't recommend 5 days. That's a little too much. I had heard that people do it for 2 days or 36 hours for various reasons. Never seen any really convincing controlled experiments on the subject though. I also think i recall magash saying he thought this was junk. But don't quote me or him on that as im not 100% sure i can trust my memory on it.
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RasJeph
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#429120 - 06/05/10 12:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I didn't think so...usually, if theres something to it I had read about it at least once before. I'm not sure what their exact wording was, but I know they said 5 days.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: RasJeph]
#429121 - 06/05/10 12:51 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've definitely heard of that but I don't really see a noticeably difference when that happens
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#429125 - 06/05/10 01:16 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah it's totally pointless IMO.
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RasJeph
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: Inverted]
#429129 - 06/05/10 01:24 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmmmm...does it help flush the nutes out at all? I've seen some people with wicked yellow leafs at the end, could that flush it better?
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: RasJeph]
#429131 - 06/05/10 01:31 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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well I would think having the lights running would flush better because it would encourage the plant to consume whatever food was left stored in the leaves
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RasJeph
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#429133 - 06/05/10 01:41 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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That sounds much better. 
Maybe if I get some kind of bigger operation up I'll test it with 2 clones.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: RasJeph]
#429134 - 06/05/10 01:55 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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post them in a log if ya do. I'd love to see some experimental grows popping up.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#429147 - 06/05/10 03:50 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its because cannabinoid production is highest in the dark, so the extra couple days is supposed to add to the potency...this subject is actualpy in this months high times lol
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RasJeph
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: SuperBudMan]
#429151 - 06/05/10 04:05 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Really? 
I wish I could get High Times, but damn - its way too expensive. If it was the price of normal magazines I'd be all over it 
While I'm derailing my thread, are there any other good weed magazines?
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: RasJeph]
#429167 - 06/05/10 05:02 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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High times is just a magazine targeting noob growers so that they buy into their products which in reality suck ass and well, the magazine is only good for bud pron. Thats it...
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: Inverted]
#429168 - 06/05/10 05:03 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you want to read a good cannabis magazine look into International Cannagraphic, I think they have a forum too or something!? 
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: Inverted]
#429274 - 06/06/10 08:04 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol yea high times is shit but its fun too read when youre baked and look at all the buds. ive never heard of international cannagraphic...where could i find this locally if not at a major bookstore? (Chapters/indigo/coles near me dont have it)
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RasJeph
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: SuperBudMan]
#429276 - 06/06/10 08:20 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks like its only online, friend
I want a nice paper copy of a magazine. I think theres one called "SKUNK"? Or maybe one with herbs and girls? Mmmmmmmm 
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: RasJeph]
#429278 - 06/06/10 08:25 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
RasJeph said:
Looks like its only online, friend
I want a nice paper copy of a magazine. I think theres one called "SKUNK"? Or maybe one with herbs and girls? Mmmmmmmm
http://softsecrets.nl/?id=47&title=Issues
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RasJeph
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: brifunforme]
#429279 - 06/06/10 08:31 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ahhhh 
Thank you sir  Skunk has girls too, but this one looks better~
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: RasJeph]
#429281 - 06/06/10 09:00 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: brifunforme]
#429337 - 06/06/10 10:41 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey i tried this on my last grow, some little bird in the woods told me the same thing loooong ago, along with not watering for the last week(after i had flushed a few times of course) to make sure the plant gave all that it had into the buds, and really pump out those gooey trichromes.
Can't really say it did much, made the buds a little stickier.
All i know is that about 60 percent of the pistols were matured, orange/brown before i did it, and after about 95 percent were orange/brown. So it just makes it mature the rest of the way i guess; dont quote me on that its just an observation i made.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#429340 - 06/06/10 11:05 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wouldn't stopping light all together stop photosynthesis in the plant? The lights helps the plant use the nutrients you are feeding it. And photosynthesis helps the plant use up the sugars too, so if you cut it off from all light I dont see how this would help trichome development?
Maybe I am missing something about the production of trichomes But to me, it sounds like a myth, I could be wrong as Im not a professional, but I dont see any scientific benefit from doing something like that.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: brifunforme]
#429350 - 06/06/10 12:36 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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maybe the plant has some kind of natural instinct to produce super dank buds when the world ends and there is no more light.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#429352 - 06/06/10 12:46 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I heard an older friend of mine that says in the last week (while hes flushing) he fucks with the plant hardcore. Changes its schedule all up, bends it around all funky, etc. All kinds of stuff that would normally cause it to hermie, if it wasn't going to be chopped soon.
Since the plant is freaking out it causes it to try even harder to survive, so its helpful or something.
I dunno...his methods are very dated.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: SuperBudMan]
#429412 - 06/06/10 05:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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SuperBudMan said:
lol yea high times is shit but its fun too read when youre baked and look at all the buds. ive never heard of international cannagraphic...where could i find this locally if not at a major bookstore? (Chapters/indigo/coles near me dont have it)
 Did you call around asking for it?!
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: brifunforme]
#429592 - 06/07/10 11:38 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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brifunforme said:
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SuperBudMan said:
lol yea high times is shit but its fun too read when youre baked and look at all the buds. ive never heard of international cannagraphic...where could i find this locally if not at a major bookstore? (Chapters/indigo/coles near me dont have it)
Did you call around asking for it?!
IC mag does come in paper, I was able to find it at Down in The Valley. every 6 months they release one... Look for a subscription on www.icmag.com
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: Inverted]
#429594 - 06/07/10 11:50 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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brifunforme said:
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SuperBudMan said:
lol yea high times is shit but its fun too read when youre baked and look at all the buds. ive never heard of international cannagraphic...where could i find this locally if not at a major bookstore? (Chapters/indigo/coles near me dont have it)
Did you call around asking for it?!
IC mag does come in paper, I was able to find it at Down in The Valley. every 6 months they release one... Look for a subscription on www.icmag.com
Oh I know they do. I subscribed around 5 or 6 years ago and only received one magazine and a dvd. Never subscribed to it again. I just thought the idea of someone calling a local book store like "Yo, do you have any international cannagraphic" And the store attendent being like "You mean national geographic? "
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: brifunforme]
#429790 - 06/08/10 12:12 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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 That's a big pile of weed in your sig bri! Is that from one of your grows?
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: TomCollins]
#429848 - 06/08/10 05:43 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's a big pile of weed in your sig bri! Is that from one of your grows?
I'm willing to bet not. I've seen that circulating the interwebs for years now.
If it IS his, WOAH. Found the creator of a pretty popular picture! 
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: TomCollins]
#429849 - 06/08/10 06:08 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Spency said:
That's a big pile of weed in your sig bri! Is that from one of your grows?
I wish! No, I've never grown that big.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: brifunforme]
#429862 - 06/08/10 09:02 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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See the bathroom scale in the back on the fireplace? Probably getting weighed out in buckets.. Must be nice.
Brifunforme, you gotta keep me updated on that Widowrella, I'm seriously considering running that through on the next round.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: RasJeph]
#429895 - 06/08/10 11:32 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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A long time ago I heard it was good to give it a couple days in the dark to make it more resinous.
I can't remember the reasoning. I think it was something about the plant produces most of its resin at night (not sure if this is true or not).
I just researched it last night because today is actually my harvest day! Woot!
I wanted to do a 14 day flush for better flavor but actually gave it more of a 16 day flush.
I really learned alot watching the plant react to the flush. Having my ppm meter really let me tune into plant nutrients.
Seeing what ppm makes the plants react in certain ways.
Whoops, got side tracked. I initiated my flush a 5 days early on accident.
So combine the extra 2 and the 5 days from being early I have to harvest a week earlier than intended.
I also heard to not water a few days before harvest so If I watered them today they wouldn't need watered for another 4 days so so that's just too long I think for the plant to go without nutes and I'm not going longer.
So this harvest I pretty much did all 3 of the fabled harvest tricks.
I unplugged the light last night because I didn't think the plants could take another day without water.
So darkness before a harvest.
No water a few days before harvest (I think to make drying faster).
Extra long flush.
We'll see how the weed is effected.
I've also been taking a tester nug every day for the last 10 days or so and I definitely can tell the harshness before.
I feel from the tester nugs 7 days is sufficient to get rid of all the harsh taste. 14 makes your plant consume all its stored energy turning all the leaves yellow.
[edit] Oh yah I also read darkness before harvest to cause the plant to eat its storage faster cause no light producing more.
I don't know if I believe it or not.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#429958 - 06/08/10 02:56 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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[edit] Oh yah I also read darkness before harvest to cause the plant to eat its storage faster cause no light producing more.
uhh que senor? english please...
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#429966 - 06/08/10 03:13 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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DoPeYsMuRf said:
[edit] Oh yah I also read darkness before harvest to cause the plant to eat its storage faster cause no light producing more.
I don't know if I believe it or not.
I haven't tried it as I have always grown outdoors and this is my first time indoors. But knowing a little about plants, and knowing they need photosynthesis to use food I would think that cutting OFF their light would STOP photosynthesis which would STOP them from using up the food.
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Re: Dark period at the end of flowering? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#429967 - 06/08/10 03:13 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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DoPeYsMuRf said:
No water a few days before harvest (I think to make drying faster).
Extra long flush.
Both of these make a difference. And yes you are right it just speeds up the drying process which could be a good or bad thing depending on your specific scenario, like drying environment, density of the buds, humidity etc...
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