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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: Data]
    #842268 - 01/15/20 04:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

1/3 people in the south owned slaves. The North did not have slavery economics.

Thus, slavery was not part of my culture and my ancestors from the North fought to free the slaves. Like I said before, I want the best for black people. I just don't want to live in their culture. Nor do I want to force them to live in ours.

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842282 - 01/15/20 07:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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1/3 people in the south owned slaves. The North did not have slavery economics.

Thus, slavery was not part of my culture and my ancestors from the North fought to free the slaves. Like I said before, I want the best for black people. I just don't want to live in their culture. Nor do I want to force them to live in ours.



As with all of your posts, you dont know what you are talking about.

Slavery was legal in northern states, and registered slaves still existed in northern states until the 1840s.

Additionally, this claim that your culture is bound to your ancestors doesn't jive with your previous posts, claiming that racial demographics were the thing to be controlled if "white culture" was to be preserved. Is it now only those whites that you think are free of racist histories, or ones that you are directly descended from? How can you ensure that one of those "slave economics whites" didn't cross-breed into your lineage? How do you know that one of your ancestors wasn't a slave-owning northerner? How do you define your culture in this way and come to the conclusion that demographics control is the answer?

If you truly believe in demographic control or advocate for a white-majority nation, then you have to include the part of white culture that includes slavery as a historical part of that culture, as is the hostorical denial of the right to vote for anyone but white men who held property. Both of these situations have also been modified by a direct amendment to the constitution. In this context, if you advocate for reinstatement of one situation denying someone rights or services based on an ascribed status, then you must also accept that the other situation denying someone rights or services based on an ascribed status is ok to reinstate.

That, or admit that you want what you want, and you don't care if the argument is logically or ethically sound.

Both situations deny forms basic freedoms that you would rather die than give up yourself, both require justification through generalized and unproven stereotypes toward a whole population, and therefore advocation of either is a form of bigotry, and thus makes you a bigot, and by your own admission. :shrug:


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842306 - 01/16/20 06:29 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Data said:



Slavery was legal in northern states, and registered slaves still existed in northern states until the 1840s.






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The North did not have slavery economics.






Comprehend my sentence. Economics. The North did not use massive amounts of slaves for their industry. The South did.

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If you truly believe in demographic control or advocate for a white-majority nation, then you have to include the part of white culture that includes slavery as a historical part of that culture




No I don't.

lol

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842311 - 01/16/20 07:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Comprehend my sentence. Economics. The North did not use massive amounts of slaves for their industry. The South did.



And the United states were United up until 1861, and tariff/tax structure ensured that the north benefited from the economic spoils of the south. There was also a free flow of people between various areas of the country. You are again trying to draw imaginary boundaries within racial boundaries. First its "white culture" then its "Christian white culture" and now "northern white culture".

You are cherry picking to legitimize your inconsistent ideologies. :shrug:

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No I don't.

lol




That is very true. But in that case, your opinions are not formulated in logic, or even the semblance of consistent ethics, and are therefore not worthy of further consideration for even dinner table discussion. :shrug:

Lol


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: Data]
    #842315 - 01/16/20 08:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It's conservatism in general.

The culture does not hinge in single pieces of history. Every empire has fault and glory.

As of today, slavery is not sought after by anybody I know. Further, slavery is a bad business model. Slavery still exists in Africa. Let them use the grand business model. Lastly, why would separatist/segragationists want to live among another people? That is paradoxical.

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842319 - 01/16/20 08:33 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You are forgetting the philosophical implications of your ideology.

If you advocate for revoking the ability of women to vote and work in leadership, based on "conservation of my cultural traditions", and also advocate for control of racial demographics based on "conservation of my cultural traditions", then you are identifying your culture group as white culture. You've said this yourself.

Therefore, slavery was a part of the cultural tradition of american white culture, it was pervasive in the colonies at various times, and was eventually abolished, but it existed as part of "white culture's" past, as was denying the vote to women. When you advocate to bring back one historical cultural tradition of discrimination, you invoke precedence to advocate for other historical cultural traditions of discrimination. By admitting that you want one but not the other, you are exposing the lack of consistency in your ideology.

Philosophically, they are one and the same. If you are proposing annulling an amendment or the formation of a new nation, your ideology must at least appear to cover all bases, including philosophical and ethical ones. Otherwise, you can and eventually will lose control of your new utopia to the other facets of "white culture" that you so frequently deny. :shrug:


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: Data]
    #842320 - 01/16/20 08:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

That makes no sense.

That's like saying traditionalist Muslims have to take the Muslim Arab slave trade into consideration and be slave traders.

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and was eventually abolished




Also part of our culture.

:facepalm3:

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842321 - 01/16/20 08:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hey! Quit hijacking my thread! Talks of big bubbied chicks with no real exp or gtfo!


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842323 - 01/16/20 09:07 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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XUL said:
That makes no sense.

That's like saying traditionalist Muslims have to take the Muslim Arab slave trade into consideration and be slave traders.

Quote:

and was eventually abolished




Also part of our culture.

:facepalm3:



Not that they have to be slave traders. Traditionalist muslims take truth directly from the Quran, and the Quran accepts slavery as a part of what is normal. Therefore, one cannot claim that they are a traditionalist Muslim and advocate for the outlawing of slavery, because that goes against the writings of the Quran, and therefore that person would not be a traditionalist muslim.

They are trapped in their own logic, and by definition not allowed to rationalize anything beyond the teachings of the Quran. Just as you logically trap yourself in your contradictory ideals. If you truly propose your ideas as they have been laid out in your posts, then they do not withstand the test of philosophical logic, and are thus vulnerable to misuse by logical people in a hypothetical country founded on your ideas.

:shrug: also please refer to my signature


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: poor boy]
    #842324 - 01/16/20 09:10 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

poor boy said:
Hey! Quit hijacking my thread! Talks of big bubbied chicks with no real exp or gtfo!



Fair enough. Big bellied hipps with no real exp...



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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842338 - 01/16/20 04:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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XUL said:
Quote:

and was eventually abolished




Also part of our culture.

:facepalm3:




:facepalm3:

Cherry picker.

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: poor boy]
    #842343 - 01/16/20 05:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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XUL said:
Quote:

XUL said:
Quote:

and was eventually abolished




Also part of our culture.

:facepalm3:




:facepalm3:

Cherry picker.



Hey how about STFU about that in this thread, per the request of the OP.

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Hey! Quit hijacking my thread! Talks of big bubbied chicks with no real exp or gtfo!




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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: Data]
    #842355 - 01/17/20 06:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Bwahahaha!

Another daring escape by Data

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842358 - 01/17/20 07:41 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Start another thread if you want, just get it out of this thread. :shrug:


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: Data]
    #842359 - 01/17/20 07:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:mushroom2:

REspect

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842363 - 01/17/20 09:31 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

women are useless
they really are a liability
everywhere they go they are treated like disabled people
uppidy women are the worse, they've got the skills of a highschooler but boss people around because they hate men basically

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: Mof]
    #842418 - 01/18/20 04:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Third wave feminism.

It's not enough to be able to vote and hold a job.

Now they want to be men. Some of them literally.

My Indian friend from the reservation has a girl and she walks all over him. She openly says in front of him that she tames and limits him. She asked my girl if she did the same thing to me and my girl said, "Hell no, he runs the show." Good woman.

My best friend also had a relationship wherein he was the woman. He had a high paying job, but the commute was terrible (3 hours) and so he bought a house for his family. His girl double backed and wanted to stay at home with her mom and made him commute. Eventually, she divorced him, took custody of the children, pinned him with child support, and got a restraining order on him. He broke the restraining order by writing his children a Christmas letter addressed to them.

Militant women wearing pants. I don't buy it.

I support the phrasing Jesse Lee Peterson typically uses. God, Christ in man, man over woman, woman over children. Tradition and ORDER.

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842427 - 01/18/20 10:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

that's a whole nother spiel im not allowed to get into here, someones panties might get in a bunch

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: Mof]
    #842428 - 01/18/20 10:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Are you suggesting that you don’t feel safe having an open conversation here?


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: poor boy]
    #842432 - 01/18/20 10:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I understand that it's the slow season for HVAC



Not down here bubba:asianofapproval:


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