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 Deadkndys420
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 Re: Fungus gnats...  [Re: phychotron]
#822226 - 12/30/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's like you're talking to a brick wall psycho lol.
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 Theman
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Lol well science says it's not more harmful then mixing up soil and dust comes up. U place on the ground not toss in the air. Anyway u can't accept ur wrong via science. Yes it's as dangerous as breathing in anything!! Lol look it up! Good try tho. Reversible is the key ie no issue.
Don't toss in air. Place on ground. Horse owners would never rub horses down with it for fleas or put in there food so it flows. If u have ever poured grain u know there is alot of dust.lol sometimes of de because it keeps grains from clumping.
Point is there is no reason to not use de. If toss in the air sure won't be nice for eyes nose or lungs. But no lasting health problems.. ie just accept ur wrong and no reason not to use de.
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phychotron
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Re: Fungus gnats... [Re: Theman]
#822263 - 12/31/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The point you keep making changes. Now your point is to not avoid using DE? we never discussed anything about not using it until now. Were discussing the application of a product and the risks associated with it.
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Lol well science says it's not more harmful then mixing up soil and dust comes up.
Can you provide a reference to that claim or are you just assuming that? Colloidal particles in soil are usually in the form of clay and soil is composed of much larger pieces such as sand and silt. Moreover, its moisture content keeps much of it from becoming airborne. With a fine dry powder like DE you get more in the air, increasing your exposure. I've never seen an exposure warning label on soil, but I have seen one on DE.
From the aformentioned link:
How might I be exposed to diatomaceous earth?
People can be exposed to diatomaceous earth if they breathe in the dust, eat it, get it on their skin, or get it in their eyes. For example, when applying the dust or when entering a treated area before the dust has settled. Exposures can also occur if products are accessible to children or pets. Exposure can be limited by reading and following label directions.
What are some signs and symptoms from a brief exposure to diatomaceous earth?
If breathed in, diatomaceous earth can irritate the nose and nasal passages. If an extremely large amount is inhaled, people may cough and have shortness of breath. On skin, it can cause irritation and dryness. Diatomaceous earth may also irritate the eyes, due to its abrasive nature. Any dust, including silica, can be irritating to the eyes."
OK, we've established its method of irritation is most likely its particulate size. However, that is a property naturally inherent in all Diatomaceous earth. Therefor DIATOMACEOUS EARTH CAN CAUSE IRRITATION! Its method of action DOES NOT MATTER. There are risks associated with exposure to the product.
You probably will be 'fine' after minor exposure, but when it comes to safety that is never the issue. The idea is to avoid anything that may pose a threat to your body. Whether you are willing to take the risk to YOUR BODY is up to you, but its important that people are informed of all the risks and dangers associated with a product before using it so they can make an informed decision before exposing themselves to it.
If you want to express your opinion that its not as bad as one thinks that's fine, but don't try and dismiss the facts because the perceived risk is below your threshold of tolerance.
If I was at work and my employer had me use a product that he said was safe, only to find out after using it all day that my lungs hurt and then they tell me "its fine bro, its not going to do any long-term damage" I would be pissed.
I'm done with this discussion. For the simple reason that I know people that have told me lead paint is safe because they used to eat the paint chips as a kid and they "turnt out fine."
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Scribbler
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Re: Fungus gnats... [Re: phychotron]
#822269 - 12/31/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What ratio of mosquito dunk do you mix with water?
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Theman
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Re: Fungus gnats... [Re: Scribbler]
#822270 - 12/31/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol ur hilarious...
Yes ur probably going to be fine as u said ok u admit ur wrong.. Jebus. But it's not probably it's been studied and yes Ull be fine. Lol
Anyway next time just don't say anything until u KNOW as a mod spreading mis info is something ythan wouldn't of stood for back in the day.
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Theman
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Re: Fungus gnats... [Re: Theman]
#822283 - 01/01/17 11:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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1 for 3-4 8-10gallon. Or 1 dunk for 6-8ish 3-5gallon pots. More or less depending on ur situation. I imagine u could stretch it alot further if u want. And add less more frequently when u watered with de chlorinated water. U can also crumble and mix in first few cm of soil and or inoculate some potato peices so they forsure eat it. As they need to eat it for it to work as it stops digestion in the larvae.
Letting soil dry is best prevention. And neem peroxide that soaks top inch worked well too. Just don't use peroxide if using dunks as it will kill the bacteria which is what makes the dunks work.
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Re: Fungus gnats... [Re: Theman]
#822292 - 01/01/17 11:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright thanks. I let them dry out as much as possible between every watering to try and avoid this suckers but they keep coming back. I used half a dunk for 5 gallons of water yesterday and stirred it real good. Before I just sprinkled it on top of the soil and it seemed to work but if I can just put it in the water then I'll do that!
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pblcenmy1
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Re: Fungus gnats... [Re: Scribbler]
#822328 - 01/03/17 02:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Empty one of those cancerous fags atop like a mulch
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Re: Fungus gnats... [Re: pblcenmy1]
#822370 - 01/05/17 09:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get the fine grow stones and put a 1 inch layer on top of your soil, it's recycled glass that has been heated and puffed up, it also is a great way to get control of your garden since the gnats get all cut up trying to get into it... Eventually there numbers are diminished greatly... But avoid breathing the dust from it, wash it outside first
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