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 First grow. Bag seed 
#799149 - 11/20/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Last Sunday my best friend gave me about 15 seeds he got in a bag that his cousin had bought. He said the bud was pretty good but couldn't tell me what strain and couldn't tell me indica or sativa. So I guess that will be a good surprise. There were a couple seeds that were crap so I only have 12 now. I soaked them in water over night, left them in a damp paper towel the rest of Monday and planted them Monday night after work. So far 7 have sprouted. I'm hoping for just one female out of the bunch. If I get more than one I'm going to spread the love with some friends. 
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 Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Scribbler]
#799213 - 11/21/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That soil looks really wet, just saying! Also, unless the grower somehow let their female plants be pollinated by a male, there's a good chance what you have are actually feminized seeds from a plant that hermied and pollinated itself and/or ladies. So I'd guess likely all females.  I'll be surprised if they aren't, I've only ever found feminized bag seed; you can even sometimes find the hermie parts on the same nugs the seeds are in.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: sweetpea]
#799215 - 11/21/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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there's a good chance what you have are actually feminized seeds from a plant that hermied and pollinated itself and/or ladies. So I'd guess likely all females.
Sure they'll be "female" but they will also turn Hermie eventually. Which is bad mkay.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Deadkndys420]
#799225 - 11/21/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think you can say without a doubt that they will hermie, but I agree, there's always that chance. :P
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: sweetpea]
#799227 - 11/21/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yah I misted the crap out of it before I left for work because sometimes I'll be at work for 10-13 hours. Hey, but for free seeds if I just get one female that doesn't turn hermie I'm more than happy. Its all about getting the experience for me.
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Aw, well I'm sure it'll work out, just try not to over water or stress them out. while it isnt ideal, even hermied, seedy weed will have cannabinoids. 
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: sweetpea]
#799492 - 11/24/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pick the shell off bro  
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Scribbler]
#800033 - 11/30/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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looking healthy!
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: sweetpea]
#800085 - 11/30/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Next time use a mh light or more tubes. Yeah they look ok but they are reaching for the light cause floro tubes to put it mildly suck. They need more then 40 watts of light.
You want them more like this in a few weeks.
To sum up this long load of crap just give em more light cause they look healthy but long stems make them much more fragile.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Magash]
#800127 - 12/01/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks. I knew I had to get another light, I just can't decide which kind. I've been reading the medical growers bible. The plants are on a 18/6 light cycle
  
Any suggestions for good cost effective/efficient light?
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t5 fluorescent lights are great cheap and cost effective. I have seen beautiful plants from them as long as you keep your reflector clean and good bulbs in them. You can keep them close to the plants and it keeps energy costs down compared to a HPS light.
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I have one t5 over them right now. I can buy more like the one I have and chain them together, how many would be sufficient for flowering? I still plan on giving some to friends so I'd probably have 2 or 3 plants if the majority are female.
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To figure out how many lights you will need in your room there are several questions we will need to know the answers to. How many plants are you wanting to flower at one time? How big is the room you have to flower the plants? What does your budget look like? If you want the maximum possible yield I would recommend t5 for clone/veg and transfer them to a HPS for flowering.
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Well I took out 2 plants that looked pretty weak. I plan to Flower 2 at once. I'm growing in a closet. Budget is between up to $200.
   
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Lookin' good man!
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Scribbler]
#801197 - 12/13/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So far so good!! They look healthy my friend. Keep it up!
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I had to leave town today all day and was uncomfortable leaving my light on without someone here just in case so they only got about 4-5 hours of light today, from what I read I think they are in or close to veg stage. How harmful can screwing with the light cycle one day be? I understand it can stunt growth and take a bit to resume, but at only a few weeks old would the lack of light force them into flowering, stunt them, or straight up kill them? They are starting to get a bit stinky. Still no clue on sex yet, And now I'm down to 5 plants. A couple seemed to be dying out while the others were doing fine so I tossed them. I'm watering when the top inch of soil is almost completely dry, haven't given any nutes, and they are getting at least 16 hours of light a day from the t5. Got some nice paychecks coming so I will be getting a new light and some nutes shortly. Any body have any idea what is going on with the two plants in the third pic? They don't seem to be doing as well as the others but they are getting everything else the other 3 plants are. Weak genetics? Late bloomers? They are smaller so further away from the light...
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They look fine to me. For veg you want your lights either 18/6 or 24/0 (I do 24/0). If you're worried about leaving your lights on when you're not home then you shouldn't be growing weed because they are always on lol you'd be a hermit. I understand though I think about it sometimes too but unless you want to be home 24 hours all day every day you shouldn't worry about it so much. Put the lights on a timer and don't fuck with them.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Scribbler]
#801356 - 12/14/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll start giving more light then. Usually with my wife's schedule and mine someone is always home, so in the very unlikely event of a fire somebody would catch it.
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It's just a T5 right??
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Scribbler]
#801528 - 12/16/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes. Just a 2ft t5. By the 7-8 hr mark it's already pretty hot. Anybody have an opinion on a good flowering light? I can't decide.
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Don't be so paranoid about a T5 lol I think they are something like 54watts a bulb and run cool. If you think that's hot try putting a MH or HPS in there haha. I'm paranoid about certain things too but if I worried about my house catching fire everytime I left a few lights on I would drive myself nuts.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Scribbler]
#801800 - 12/18/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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For a flowering light I highly recommend a HPS. I always run 1k watt HPS lights. Can't go wrong with a HPS light with an air cooled hood.
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Well over the last month and whatever days I had to toss my plants due do being evacuated due to a fire in a residence below us, I decided not to start up again until I have everything I absolutely need. Decided on a led light off Amazon for flowering, and a big enough tent to hold 3-5 small plants. I was only expecting to get another 5-10 seeds but I got 50 something to work with. Atleast this time I was told they will be a sativa strain so I know they'll get a little tall.
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I decided on a pretty basic 32x18x32 tent. I found a few lights on Amazon with decent reviews. Would 1 mars hydro mars300 led light be enough for a 32"x18"x32" tent or would it be better to get 2 erligpowht 45w led light or 2 ourkens 45w led light? The mars and erligpowht are red and blue light but the ourkens is red, blue, orange and white. Possibly even 3 of the smaller led? I want to keep the cost of the lights $200 or less. Of anybody has a good led suggestion I'm all ears.
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Those cheap LEDs are junk for growing pot.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Deadkndys420]
#805144 - 02/02/16 11:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I want something efficient and low heat emitting for the summer. Are there good led lights that I don't have to drop 4-800 on? I'm checking websites for local places but they only have a few led's that are closer to a grand and more for large scale.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Deadkndys420]
#805156 - 02/02/16 04:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those cheap LEDs are junk for growing pot.
I've never used them but from what I've read this is 100% correct. If you want to use LED then you have to drop money on a good one. If not then you're wasting your money and you're better off getting a HPS w/ a cooltube.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: Scribbler]
#805182 - 02/02/16 11:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those Mars II impress some people, usually those who've never used any before. I'm not a big fan, but those on a super low budget or a small enough grow can get by with one.
Cheap and generic LED's are usually a huge rip off, however if you get one knowing that its not going to provide the best light or longest lifespan, and your needs are minimal then you could get by with a cheap LED.
You might need another one or an upgrade to a real light in the future. I wouldn't drop more than ~$200 for that sized area until you get a better light.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: phychotron]
#805225 - 02/03/16 12:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well glad I looked other places because I found a deal for 2 mars300 for 120. Amazon had them 1 for a little over 100. I'm gonna buy those and it should work fine for what I need. Now on to carbon filters and inline fans...
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How are you coming on your grow closet?
Have you bought anything yet?
Just following along with your post it seams you just happened upon some seeds and now you have the grow bug. At the same time you are concerned about detection, and heat from lighting causing fire. And budget is also a concern.
First let me say welcome to the world of horticulture. Some things I would like to tell you that will help you along your way.
First when you germ your seeds you can soak them over night to soften the shells. Then put them in a wet paper towel and then put the paper towel in a zip lock bag. You are going to want to keep them in a warm dark place ideally around 75-90F and DARK. If you live in an apartment I'm sure you have a dark closet with a water heater. Then LEAVE THEM BE for about a week. Cannabis seeds come with there own built in food and they can germ while sending out a tap root for a long time. The majority of there stored food gets used when they pop out of the dirt and spread there started leaves. After a week check them out and you should have some pretty good tap roots. Put some dirt in a Dixie cup (the small 2 shot ones for rinsing your mouth out) pot a few holes in the bottom and water it till it drips out and let it sit a bit to drain. once the extra water is out put the cup in another cup so it don't leak all over when you water. poke a hole in the dirt deep enough to put the tap root all the way in and the seed pot about 1/8 inch under the dirt. BOOM you done for a while sit back and wait until you see it come out of the dirt. Water it with just 1/4 the volume of your cup when the top is dry until you get your 1st set of true leaves.
For seedling lighting you can use 4x Compact Florescents 40 or 60 watt equivalent so that's about a 14-20 watt Head to the hardware and get you some Daylight ones. while you are there get a timer and some bulb splitters and rig it up like this.
Put them about 2 inches from your plants and move them up as they grow. You can grow with these for well into your 2nd month while you iron out your lighting. If you want stealth grow just 1 plant in a gun cabinet that is 2x2x5 and just add some more CPF trees as your plants grow. Pinch it off @ the 3rd node that grows that will keep it short and bushy. There is nothing wrong with veging a plant for 4-8 weeks and flipping it to get a mini monster. When I was in collage I grew plants in 2 mini fridges one for veg and one for flower and was able to get a nice bag every other month for next to nothing.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: GlasPlandai]
#806330 - 02/20/16 04:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just bought a 2x2x3 tent and 2 mars hydro 300w led lights.
 
Set me back 190 total. I just germed 20 seeds again. The tent and lights will Be here within a week. Anybody have suggestions for carbon filters?
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Quote:
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Anybody have suggestions for carbon filters?
DIY carbon filter from active carbon for fish tanks @ your local pet store.
Almost just as easy to just buy one. I use Active Air 6". You can get them on amazon from $50-100us. Lasts me about a year 1/2 with 10 Flower and 10 veg plants running year long.
Just make sure you get one rated higher CFM than your fan.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: GlasPlandai]
#806590 - 02/24/16 01:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I received my tent yesterday, it is all set up with my seedlings inside waiting for the led's to get here. Post pics soon
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Lights should be here in a couple days. Already weeded a couple out that weren't satisfactory. They sprouted then the stem started turning black and didn't grow any more so down to 17.
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The third pic, the plant has always been like that. Even when it first emerged from the seed. The leaves are droopy on almost all of them. I think I'm over watering. So I slowed down and it hasn't seemed to help yet it's been a few days now.
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Moving slowly. I'm considering transferring them outside in a month. There are wooded areas and fields nearby that would provide a decent spot. I recently stated dyna grows grow liquid and i did 1 round with some gen hydro products to get a better root system.
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You don't have to water those yet, let them suck up the water in the pot first.
What kind of soil is that? looks like they're starting to become nitrogen deficient. Aeration plays a HUGE role in how fast those seedlings take off and flourish. It looks like those are in compacted soil with poor drainage and airflow in the root zone.
They call some stuff "miracle grow" because its a miracle that anything could grow in it. When you transplant and you have the same soil, add a bunch of perlite to it to fluff it up. This will allow the roots to dig in easier and not drown.
I would recommend moving the lights up a bit, the one is deforming probably from heat/light stress.
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: phychotron]
#808143 - 03/16/16 11:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can't remember what soil it is but I mixed it with some canna coco coir. The light is as high as it can go in my tent. What soil would you suggest? I'll be receiving my inline fan and carbon filter in the next 2 days. And I'll start pumping in a lot more fresh air. Alright thanks. Would it be wise to transplant to 1 gallon pots soon? I've got a lot more reading to do I guess.
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Some are darker and a little more dense looking. Thinking there was multiple strains in the bag. I plan to transplant to 1gallon pots soon and flower in the next 2 weeks.
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They got good carbon filters attached to inline fan for about 120$ mine runs perfect... Buy extra filters tho...they cost like 7$
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Re: First grow. Bag seed [Re: DannyFolks]
#808965 - 03/29/16 12:02 PM (8 years, 27 days ago) |
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Well everything is finally 100% set up. No more smelly apartment! It just smells like flowers.
I transferred to 1 gallon pots where they will stay until harvest.
One of my plants does seem to have a deficiency, I can't tell which one it is in my book.
I have a thermometer that gives highest and lowest temp and humidity for the last 36hrs and it's currently 29% at 77°f. My next project is cranking up the CO2 and getting the humidity up.
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Well had one nasty looking plant.... Figured what the hell, uprooted it and replaced the soil in he pot. Maybe it'll work, idk. Post pics soon
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Be as experimental as possible. Its best to try new things and test the limits of plants at first. Best to do it with extra clones so you don't mess up a whole flower cycle.
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