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Plant Looks Sad
    #774768 - 04/01/15 10:03 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Am I doing something wrong or is my baby just resting for today?

I haven't watered in almost a week cuz the pot has a large reservoir and I just added some water today hoping that was the problem..

Doesn't look like any of the leaves are turning color, but the growth seemed to slow down over the past few days, and now my plant smells a bit like weed and coleslaw mixed lol... and maybe vinegar idk..



If anyone can tell me how my plant is doing and anything I can do to help it grow I would greatly appreciate it.

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774769 - 04/01/15 10:07 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Also the plant is growing extremely bushy. Like there's no space under the leaves just more leaves lol..

I cut some of the smaller hidden leaves last night in hopes to focus the energy into growing size.. Would anyone recommend I continue more trimming?

If I can get another good pic later I can show you under the leaves.. But for now I'm mostly wondering if my plant is okay and if I can continue, for the most part, how I am already doing?

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774782 - 04/01/15 11:50 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Soil looks dry to me.  How much are you watering at a time?


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774802 - 04/01/15 02:14 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

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Also the plant is growing extremely bushy. Like there's no space under the leaves just more leaves lol..

I cut some of the smaller hidden leaves last night in hopes to focus the energy into growing size.. Would anyone recommend I continue more trimming?

If I can get another good pic later I can show you under the leaves.. But for now I'm mostly wondering if my plant is okay and if I can continue, for the most part, how I am already doing?




That's just a baby man... stop cutting leaves off it :wink:

That's the exact wilted look of a plant that's beed deprived of water immediately prior.
Its good to have wet/dry cycles but not to the point where the plant shrivels up.

Water until you have a fair amout of runoff from the bottom. Until the soil is saturated and feels heavy


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: oeric mckenna]
    #774818 - 04/01/15 05:58 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Thanks guys. It looks somewhat better but maybe tomorrow I will know if the water helped. I added more to make sure really wet...

The plant still looks like it's growing weird tho. Is sativa just more common? cuz I see a lot of pics of tall skinny trees this looks like it just wants to grow in every direction even if there's no room or light lol.. I'll try to show you guys another pic

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774820 - 04/01/15 06:07 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774831 - 04/01/15 07:27 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

stems are bent I say not enough water :/


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: lorrainesic]
    #774832 - 04/01/15 07:48 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

How big is the container its in?


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: lorrainesic]
    #774833 - 04/01/15 07:52 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Ok I will make sure to keep it well watered for another day or 2.. Now I'm sad I thought I was making it happy by giving it some dryness lol.. I think it's the pot with extra reservoir throwing me off it still looked damp soil. But now it's good.

Now how about that growth? I was thinking those under stems exploding out below the big leaves would be good for clones? So the whole thing can keep growing while those start another tree? What do you guys think should I leave it as is for now  and see how it grows or should I... Would I be able to... Clone those fresh branches that are growing fast?

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774834 - 04/01/15 07:56 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Pretty big... I guess 5 gallon?



*wow do these pictures suck for anyone else's? Like open [___] not [ ]*

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774848 - 04/01/15 09:56 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Whoops


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774849 - 04/01/15 09:56 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Raise that light a little bit. 


How big are your pits, and how much water are you putting in it each time you water


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774855 - 04/01/15 10:56 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Yo. untill that plant sucks some water up, better pull that light away

Poor thing...

So....thirsty..


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: oeric mckenna]
    #774927 - 04/02/15 06:55 PM (9 years, 25 days ago)

Lolsht.. The fluorescent bulbs were like4-6 inches away..

I watered nicely, does that look like the only problem? Lol idk.. Still looks sad but that stem is thick as heck (I buried the baby tree transplant to big pot deep idk)

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774932 - 04/02/15 07:21 PM (9 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

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Yo. untill that plant sucks some water up, better pull that light away

Poor thing...

So....thirsty..





I was thinking not enough light so I tried to lower to use as much

Edited by Dirtygoat (04/02/15 07:22 PM)

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774933 - 04/02/15 07:30 PM (9 years, 25 days ago)

Also I am thinking to upgrade to this...



Does it look worth? 400w good for like 2 plants?

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #774942 - 04/02/15 09:42 PM (9 years, 25 days ago)

Why won't you anwpswer any direct question's?  Jesus, I give up


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #774993 - 04/03/15 10:21 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Sorry I thought I did answer... Just went onto next subject.

Idk I can't measure water with my hands I thought the pic was good enough to tell about how big the pot was.. The sticker doesn't say anything should I try to check he bottom of the pot?

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #774994 - 04/03/15 10:24 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Oh.. This?

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Soil looks dry to me.  How much are you watering at a time?




Maybe like 3/4 gallon 5days prior to first post

And idk the pot size

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775009 - 04/03/15 02:46 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Looks like a 1 gallon or less.
I could grow that plant in a white styro cup so that's not the most relavant clue as you're not looking at a yellowing, constriction, root-bound idea.
Ensure that when you water, you're letting it run through the bottom all the way with a fair amount of "runoff" .

How's it looking now?


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: oeric mckenna]
    #775065 - 04/03/15 07:07 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Def. seems to have stood up more.



The pot holds all the water instead of letting it run off. Should I bring it outside (or bathtub lol) and let some water run through before letting it sit in he reservoir?




How about these pics?
I pulled up the stems from under that were growing faster than the big leaves

Also that curling is bad or just young leaves?
And the bigger leaves look a bit yellow

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775088 - 04/03/15 10:27 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Did you run some water thru that thing?
Definitely still looking wilty...
  The curling looks like light burn to me


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: oeric mckenna]
    #775090 - 04/03/15 11:17 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Yea lol.. Dam some the lower leave too I'm thinking I watered bad the leaves got a bit wet then I left the light too low....

Yea I ran some more water without the bottom.

What happens with light burn lol can the plant still be okay will it just grow new better branches

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775091 - 04/03/15 11:19 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

It'll improve when the cause is removed

Aka back the light away a bit...


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775108 - 04/04/15 10:09 AM (9 years, 23 days ago)

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Yea lol.. Dam some the lower leave too I'm thinking I watered bad the leaves got a bit wet then I left the light too low....

Yea I ran some more water without the bottom.

What happens with light burn lol can the plant still be okay will it just grow new better branches




Yeah it's like a human that gets sunburned.  They are fine, just grow new better skin. 

OK here's one thing for sure.  Quit getting your leaves wet!  I know, lots of people do stupid shit like misting their plants or getting them wet with the light too close.  There are good reasons you don't water down your tomato plants in the high noon sun.  Lots of good reasons, in fact.

Your plant needs to stretch out, have you figure out that when it's thirsty, you water it, when it's hungry you feed it, and quit fucking with it don't prune shit.  Don't be a gooner clipper lollipopping fool.  You got a decent looking indica plant there.

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: GoonerHeClips]
    #775121 - 04/04/15 11:59 AM (9 years, 23 days ago)

Damn..idk tho I just come back after a few hours it's laying down... It was okay last night and this morning looked good I come back after few hr and it is down..



I was thinking to kind of start over. I love the genetics of this plant like how it's been growing but I think I screwed up... I can keep doing what I can but I was thinking, wondering if I could just try cloning some of the branches that look cloneable and start with a couple new plants?

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775123 - 04/04/15 12:12 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

:confused:

I just noticed some mold? In the dirt idk what it is but it smells oddly like weed...



I feel bad lol poor plant I suck at growing, outdoors I didn't have to worry so much the wild took care of the plant

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775154 - 04/04/15 08:40 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

lol I think that's what made it smell like coleslaw before =(

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775156 - 04/04/15 08:57 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

Let the soil dry out. You can also give it a light spray of hydrogen peroxide if gets really bad, but its not needed at this point. I think your plant is over watered and drowning.

I would see about some sort of transplant to a less moist medium, as an over saturated medium will continue to make it worse if the plant isn't sucking it up. That's very risky though, and you could lose the plant if your not careful.


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: phychotron]
    #775157 - 04/04/15 09:10 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

Isn't looking good idk what I can do I worry I'll kill it at this point trying anything.. Sucks it started so nice I'm not sure what went wrong lol but I have some ideas... But just first attempt it'll go better next time. I'll keep trying see what can happen but I'll try fresh another time with better supplies...

Sooo... Does anyone know a good soil for set and forget that I can just buy online maybe? I made this mix some soil from homedepot/coco coir/verm/perlite/peat moss... Idk what I was doing hahaha

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775162 - 04/04/15 09:47 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

(I am from the shroomery I am used to a different type of cultivation haha)..

But I would love to learn and get better at this. I have 3 seeds left of what I think is purple haze, one of which is prob fem. i will prob get a better light system and a better set up. I just need to figure out a better soil and pot I just have to worry about watering every few days if anyone can lmk a good way to do that lol pls, thanks..

I'll give it a week or so see what I can do with this poor guy.. Then I'll try for round 2. For rn I have to get back to the other side lol

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775181 - 04/05/15 11:26 AM (9 years, 22 days ago)

I doubt it needs a bright light in its face right now.  What's your light schedule?  If you say 24/7 go to 18/6 and move your light up.  Your soil looks dry to me but overwatering makes for a limpy plant as well.  In any case I'd go straight LOOSE not compressed Canna coir and canna nutes but if you don't want to water for days maybe just stick to not growing because that ain't going to work with coir at all. Maybe take up knitting or something instead.

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: GoonerHeClips]
    #775187 - 04/05/15 11:57 AM (9 years, 22 days ago)

That went amazingly bad.


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: GoonerHeClips]
    #775188 - 04/05/15 11:57 AM (9 years, 22 days ago)

i took up shroom growing as i said.

i can water.. i thought it seemed moist so i didnt. i just dont want to hydroponically water every few hours..

i was hoping someone could tell me a good soil or how to make one maybe. i had the coir bricks for shrooms i added hot water so it expanded before mixing it with dirt but i think i used bad dirt, added too much verm/peat, not enough pearlite and in general not enough air flow for the plant. plus i think i buried the baby plant too deep i figured it would help cuz it was really long at first but prob too deep, next time ill pretty much just stick a seed in good dirt in a big pot and let it form its own shape...

my idea is for round 2 a better pot, better soil i dont have to worry about, proven lights, and an easier setup i can come look at and inspect every day

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775189 - 04/05/15 12:00 PM (9 years, 22 days ago)

oh and i said "so i just water every few days" not that i dont want to water

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775191 - 04/05/15 12:20 PM (9 years, 22 days ago)

Whoah. with that soil mix... the verm is probably what screwed you. I think your analysis of the death is accurate.
There's tons of good soil available.
got a grow shop around?


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: oeric mckenna]
    #775193 - 04/05/15 12:43 PM (9 years, 22 days ago)

I second the use of Canna Nutrients and Coco Coir. If you don't want to feed for days then set up some Blumats to feed for you.  If you set them up in soil you could just fill the rest tank (5 gallon bucket) with plain water. Otherwise mixing the nutrients doesn't take that long, especially with the Canna bottles that measure stuff out.

Technically its hydroponics but passive, gravity fed non-recirculating so no tank maintenance once you mix up the nutrients. I used to feed my plants via Blumats and it worked well, but now I'm onto a pump/shower ring system to deliver more to them. The Blumats tend to underwater a bit but still produce fantastic results.

Its a lot easier to have some sort of feed system than to mix nutrients up every other day when your hand watering them.

A simple bucket with a pump, T and 2 valves(one an anti siphon and waterfall-mix, the other is to control feedrate to plants) and some hose can make a simple and effective Drain To Waste (DTW) top down water feeding system for very cheap. You only really need to poke some holes into a piece of hose looped around a T, then T into the feed hose/loop. Its essentially the exact same thing as hand watering but done automatically--just plug the pump in when you want to water. And if you put it a timer that will control 1 minute intervals (digital) set it to run for one minute and adjust the rate via the valve.

Even if its plain water to the soil, it will still save you a shit ton of time hand watering.  Of course that's assuming your going to get more than one plant eventually, although you could do it directly to one plant if you wanted to.


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775199 - 04/05/15 01:21 PM (9 years, 22 days ago)

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i took up shroom growing as i said.

i can water.. i thought it seemed moist so i didnt. i just dont want to hydroponically water every few hours..

i was hoping someone could tell me a good soil or how to make one maybe. i had the coir bricks for shrooms i added hot water so it expanded before mixing it with dirt but i think i used bad dirt, added too much verm/peat, not enough pearlite and in general not enough air flow for the plant. plus i think i buried the baby plant too deep i figured it would help cuz it was really long at first but prob too deep, next time ill pretty much just stick a seed in good dirt in a big pot and let it form its own shape...

my idea is for round 2 a better pot, better soil i dont have to worry about, proven lights, and an easier setup i can come look at and inspect every day




It's critical you buy the Canna LOOSE coco, it doesn't have to be expanded or messed with.  Use it at 100%.  Their block coco may be good too especially if you have to get stuff shipped to you, although I haven't tried it TBH.  Don't mix anything else in.  No perlite please!  Or anything else.  Nothing. You can plant a seed right into it, or a germinated seed, or a clone with or without rooting compound.  It's also critical that you stick with the Canna Coco nutrients A&B and their other stuff because those nutrients are specific to coco.

Like so many, you think soil is a preferred method, and for some it is.  And surely if you mix your own soil you can "fine tune" it and make something wonderful.  No.  If you want soil, buy Fox Farms Ocean Forest and just add water for a few weeks.  It's an easy good way to go with enough nutes to get you going.

With coir, you should add nutes to the coir when starting anything.  Go lightest nutes on their grow guide and keep to that guide and you won't go to far wrong.  The other absolute must read and fine tune is the pH.  A MUST.  Get a good meter, Eco pH1 is cheap and works well from my experience.  Around seventy bucks.  pH to 5.8-5.9 with each and every feeding.  Don't ever just give them water, unless it's to "fix" adding too many nutes.  So don't overdo it, I think the guide does go a bit over on them so I go light light unless it's obvious they are hungry.  800 ppm is too high for the most part.  Feed to overflow with about 15% runoff each time.  The coir is more forgiving by far than soil for overwatering and works well if kept pretty moist.  Just don't let the water sit in the saucer for more than an hour or drain to waste.  A new little shop vac will suck water up from the saucers but be careful to not suck up leaves in the process.

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775200 - 04/05/15 01:24 PM (9 years, 22 days ago)

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oh and i said "so i just water every few days" not that i dont want to water




With the coco often you can water every other or third day if they are small.  Just be sure to water to runoff each and every time, and throw the runoff out in your yard or on houseplants.

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: GoonerHeClips]
    #775206 - 04/05/15 02:02 PM (9 years, 22 days ago)

Dam so much info I'm kinda confused lol... I was hoping to do something like how I did outdoors lol.. Put some seeds, water, harvest. Lolol of course it was a bit more than that but it wasn't too bad.

The hydroponics near me closed down, but there's a gardening store idk if they have the foxfarm but the 10.5 mile drive to next hydroponic is worth the $20 shipping lol.

I also bought the 3nutrient juice on eBay should have that soon.
And my house bought some kangen water that you can press a button for what ph water I want from the spout lol that should work for ph right? And I have ph strips, can I use those for soil?

Sooo... Lol... If I get some of that foxfarm soil put it in a pot, under a hps light 18/6, with a seed in the center, that will eventually be watered with extra nutrients.. according to a schedule (hopefully on the bottle?).. And adjusting ph... Will I have a pretty tree ready to produce some dank nugs?? Lol

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775208 - 04/05/15 02:31 PM (9 years, 22 days ago)

when watering soil make sure you stick your pinky in the soil to see how far down it's still wet. Usually the top will dry out but will still be wet not far from the surface for a while. Dont just water everytime the top of the soil dries out or you can rot the roots

I cant really help you on the nutrient questions, when I grew in soil I didn't use many nutrients. I got a good soil called black gold and during vegetative I used some ammonium sulfate (pure nitrogen) and didn't use anything during flower because I didn't learn about molasses until later.

The buds weren't huge or dense but they tasted/smelled good and smoked well once cured.


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #775216 - 04/05/15 04:16 PM (9 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

Dirtygoat said:
Dam so much info I'm kinda confused lol... I was hoping to do something like how I did outdoors lol.. Put some seeds, water, harvest. Lolol of course it was a bit more than that but it wasn't too bad.

The hydroponics near me closed down, but there's a gardening store idk if they have the foxfarm but the 10.5 mile drive to next hydroponic is worth the $20 shipping lol.

I also bought the 3nutrient juice on eBay should have that soon.
And my house bought some kangen water that you can press a button for what ph water I want from the spout lol that should work for ph right? And I have ph strips, can I use those for soil?

Sooo... Lol... If I get some of that foxfarm soil put it in a pot, under a hps light 18/6, with a seed in the center, that will eventually be watered with extra nutrients.. according to a schedule (hopefully on the bottle?).. And adjusting ph... Will I have a pretty tree ready to produce some dank nugs?? Lol




I recommend T5 blue spectrum for vegging, then T5/HPS for bloom.  Soil probably the way to go, I'd still get a pH meter and not mess with the strips.

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: GoonerHeClips]
    #775252 - 04/06/15 07:15 AM (9 years, 22 days ago)

Ok.
I did some thinking and I know exactly what happened to your plant.
Your container.
You mentioned it was the kikind with the resevoir.
We all assumed your plant was drying up because when young, overwaterrwateringing/underwatering symptoms can look the same, IF the overwatering involves the roots sitting in stagnant water.

I believe your main roots reached the bottom of yout pot into its bottom which contained the runoff, and just sat in it.
This explains why it died so quickly.

Good drainage is key.
Big holes, gravel.. whatever it takes.

You won't need to get too fancy to grow killer buds. A few key things need to happen.
the main new grower mistakes seem to be overwatering, overfertilizing, and not knowing what pest damage looks like.


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: oeric mckenna]
    #775259 - 04/06/15 07:40 AM (9 years, 21 days ago)

Most people seem to think their tap water is somehow good.  Most is not good.  At all.  Mine sure isn't, 150 ppm of alkalinity and god knows that buffer they add to get the pH sometimes up to NINE!  NINE!  That's amazingly alkaline, 100x more alkaline than pH 7.0.  It's a log scale...

Anyway, break out some coin folks and get an RO unless you truly do have a good soft hopefully acidic or at least close to pH 7 water source...

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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: GoonerHeClips]
    #775326 - 04/06/15 04:14 PM (9 years, 21 days ago)

I dont buy water.
I just let it sit out. Sometimes with an air pump with airstone in the bucket. Then ph down.

A test pen and ph down is what rocks for me

Buying water and hauling it sounds like a colossal pain in the ass.
A filter would be more logical


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Re: Plant Looks Sad [Re: oeric mckenna]
    #777228 - 04/28/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

^Distilled water can easily be found for $ .25/gallon bulk and $.80/gallon at grocery stores. Yeah I guess it can be a pain in the ass to haul.. but I manage it without too much hassle.

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