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 Rev. Bud Green
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 stiff and drooping leaves 
#762683 - 12/21/14 08:43 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? Seed
2. How old are your plants? 23 days
3. How tall are your plants? 3.5"
4. What size containers are they planted in?
2.5 gallon of soil
5. What is your soil mix? Roots organic
6. How often do you water and what type of
water do you use and how much you give per
watering? 3-4 days, tap water after sitting
out for 24 hours,and about 24 ounces of
water per.
7. What is the pH of your water? 6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what
is its NPK ratio? Maxigro 10-5-14
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants
with anything? occasionally by accident if
soil needs.
10. What kind of lights do you use and how
many watts combined? 5 26w cfl 6400k
(130w)
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
About 3" above
12. What size is your grow space in square
feet? Inside buckets
13. What is the temperature and humidity in
your grow space? 77°- 82°. Dry
14. What is the pH of the soil? Unknown at
this time.
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in
your grow space? None
16. How much experience do you have growing?
None
I watered 2 days ago with first dose of nutes. Used a quarter of the recommended dose. Now the lower half has curled downward, and leaves has seriously stiffened. The top of the plant isn't nearly as rigid.
Anyone know what's wrong with her? Also, she's a northern lights auto fem.
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"She's a Northern Lights Auto-Fem".
There might be your problem! Wouldn't it be Auto-Flower?
I think you aren't keeping things moist enough, lightly water every other day rather than heavier every 3-4 days. Water the edges of your container too, and away from your plant to encourage the roots.
You may have the dreaded fungal gnat larvae just chawing at your Roots and not even know it yet, but when you see the adult gnats that will be confirmation.
The curling downward is perhaps not end of the world and kind of strain dependent. It also can indicate water issues either too much or too little. But really they look OK and maybe even in need of more ferts. Up it to 1/3 next time and see what happens.
Also, feel just how warm it is a mere 3" from your bulb, and then imagine how the plant feels with that heat source pounding down on it's head. Does it want that? Probably not. Back it up to 6" away. You got a tiny plant that doesn't need that right now...
Edited by GoonerHeClips (12/22/14 07:54 AM)
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: GoonerHeClips]
#762736 - 12/22/14 09:29 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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well hes in alot of soil. and is watering way to much.I grow in 5 gallon buckets! When my plants are that small.I might water them every two weeks if there little. When they get bigger they use more water so.
Dude you are drowning your plant. I think I told you this before.I dont know the makeup of roots soil but if its like FoxFarm, you shouldn't need to feed for like a month and a half.
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Yes u told me before, so I did cut back some. But when I stick my entire finger in the soil, and its bone dry, its hard to just given some hehehe.
Also, yes autoflower, feminized.
I always read that with CFLs u wanted them very close. Its not too hot in my opinion, but I will move the lights up another 3 inches and c what that does.
A week ago she was bushy and perked up. I'm just worried now cuz to me it appears as if she's dying.
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Also, when you say "tap" water, what is the TDS and pH of it right out of the tap? If it's hard and alkaline, and with unknown minerals, get yourself an RO system, or buy some soft water a few gallons of Crystal Geyser at a buck a gallon, there you go for a test...
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ok did you pick your container up? thats how you know if its dry.
Here is a pic of some plants
The big one gets water like once a week and the little ones they might go two weeks with out watering again.
Just to give you an idea of how much a plant uses water.
Plus I keep an index card on all my plants with there feeding/watering.So no matter what I know what i did to her.
Look at the dates this plant is in 5 gallon and huge .
I just lift and see ,sometimes i can put my hand all the way down in dry soil but the weight of the bucket tells me different.
Thats my thought on your drowning girl.
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almost sounds like you answered your own question...
Basically, you're saying your plant was fine, then you gave it nutrients and now its bummed.
** Always be careful about juicing young plants.
Especially if your soil is already nutrient rich.
I believe the downward curl or "claw leaf" look is caused as a response to nitrogen toxicity.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
#762878 - 12/23/14 06:28 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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do you have purpling in your stems or vains in the leaves?
let your plant dry out ,do a light watering with a dissolved solution 1/2 tsp of epsom salt per gal of water , i cant see the color on the stems but treating it as an magnesium deficancy is better then not treating it at all!
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#762898 - 12/23/14 08:32 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok your plants are under a month old how many times have u feed it? cause most potted plant soils like fox farm or roots have nuits in it and shoudl easly give u a month to 6 week with out having to give it anything.you should not have feed it at all. the only things u woudl have been safe to use are like a humic acid (like liquid karma) or a root growth booster.
so the question is how many times have u feed it ?? cause if u been feeding it a few times sense u started to grow it then u have way to many nuits in the soil and burning the plant and more then likely causing lock out.
also u got to be very careful with autos. they are very very sensitive in almost every aspect of growing. They get stressed out very easy. they dont liek to be transplanted and doing like to be trainned. if they get very stressed out they go right into flower.
also this is off subject but how many hours of light are you giving them? you should be giving them 20 hours of like for grow and flower stage. the reason u need to give them 20 hours from start to finsh is because of there such short lifespan they need a shit load of light to be able to get as much growth then to help them produce yeild(of what little they can get)
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
#762908 - 12/23/14 09:22 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been lifting the bucket to compare weight with a similar bucket with same amount of soil, as u suggested. I also keep a log of activity.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#762909 - 12/23/14 09:24 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is no purpling. Will try the salt instead of nutes next watering.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: Mrshroom]
#762910 - 12/23/14 09:27 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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The plant has only been fed nutes one time.
Light cycle is set for 18/6. Should I up it to 20/4?
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#763086 - 12/24/14 09:02 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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NO NUTES. NO SALT.
Jesus fucking christ. This plant is in 2.5 gallons of soil and has plenty of nutrients to feed off of.
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dmtcorey said:
do you have purpling in your stems or vains in the leaves?
let your plant dry out ,do a light watering with a dissolved solution 1/2 tsp of epsom salt per gal of water , i cant see the color on the stems but treating it as an magnesium deficancy is better then not treating it at all!
This is just horrible advice. Hey, lets treat, cause treating without knowing is the way to go.
Super bad idea. If the plant already has enough nutrients, and you already burned them with more, you aren't going to "treat" it by adding more nutrients.
Budgrower was spot on with this one. Stop watering, and stop the feeding. Feel how heavy the container is. Pick it up about every 3-4 days. Once its pretty dang light, then you water. It will take a bit to get it down, but it's the best way to determine.
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Hea thanks Hawk! You and a few others are the ones that held my hand while a learned. LOL
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Quote:
Hawksresurrection said:
NO NUTES. NO SALT.
Jesus fucking christ. This plant is in 2.5 gallons of soil and has plenty of nutrients to feed off of.
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dmtcorey said:
do you have purpling in your stems or veins in the leaves?
let your plant dry out ,do a light watering with a dissolved solution 1/2 tsp of epsom salt per gal of water , i cant see the color on the stems but treating it as an magnesium deficiency is better then not treating it at all!
This is just horrible advice. Hey, lets treat, cause treating without knowing is the way to go.
Super bad idea. If the plant already has enough nutrients, and you already burned them with more, you aren't going to "treat" it by adding more nutrients.
Budgrower was spot on with this one. Stop watering, and stop the feeding. Feel how heavy the container is. Pick it up about every 3-4 days. Once its pretty dang light, then you water. It will take a bit to get it down, but it's the best way to determine.
whats with the attitude bro ? i cant see by flushing with a ph balanced solution and a micro amount of mag being as huge deal as you make it out to be . i think a flush with a micro amount of something that aids the plant in becoming green again is a fair call imo. maybe the poster has already made some changes hear ,i wouldnt mind hearing whats going on .
if infact the soil the poster is using already has nutrients in it and was bought like that ,then starting a flush with pure water would be..a way to go ! im going from my experience with using seaweed and epsom salt for bringing unhealthy plant around ,has worked for me many times have a nice day and have a little dam respect to
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Edited by dmtcorey (12/27/14 04:00 PM)
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#763512 - 12/27/14 04:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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dmtcorey said:
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Hawksresurrection said:
NO NUTES. NO SALT.
Jesus fucking christ. This plant is in 2.5 gallons of soil and has plenty of nutrients to feed off of.
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dmtcorey said:
do you have purpling in your stems or veins in the leaves?
let your plant dry out ,do a light watering with a dissolved solution 1/2 tsp of epsom salt per gal of water , i cant see the color on the stems but treating it as an magnesium deficiency is better then not treating it at all!
This is just horrible advice. Hey, lets treat, cause treating without knowing is the way to go.
Super bad idea. If the plant already has enough nutrients, and you already burned them with more, you aren't going to "treat" it by adding more nutrients.
Budgrower was spot on with this one. Stop watering, and stop the feeding. Feel how heavy the container is. Pick it up about every 3-4 days. Once its pretty dang light, then you water. It will take a bit to get it down, but it's the best way to determine.
whats with the attitude bro ? i cant see by flushing with a ph balanced solution and a micro amount of mag being as huge deal as you make it out to be . i think a flush with a micro amount of something that aids the plant in becoming green again is a fair call imo. maybe the poster has already made some changes hear ,i wouldnt mind hearing whats going on .
if infact the soil the poster is using already has nutrients in it and was bought like that ,then starting a flush with pure water would be..a way to go ! im going from my experience with using seaweed and epsom salt for bringing unhealthy plant around ,has worked for me many times have a nice day and have a little dam respect to
the reason he is saying that is because u just dont throw stuff in when u dont knwo what the prob is. And the prob comes across that there is too much nutrients in the soil and he gave it some so its burning the plants... so with adding more micro nutrients all its going to do is cause more problems. so with the plant having stuff in it and with what he added we need to get it out... and give the plant time to recover. just throwing stuff in wont help.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: Mrshroom]
#763515 - 12/27/14 05:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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it could be that there are to many nuts ,thats one possibility ! another it that the ph is off and the plant cant metabolize the nuts that are in the soil ! maybe jumping to the conclusion that it has to many nuts is wrong ,but flushing with a ph balanced solution with a trace amount of mag vary well might tell you if it was to many nuts ,or if it was just a ph issue so its not just throwing stuff in ,its perturbing the situation to gain information on what is going on ,it will tell you if its to many nuts or it will tell you if its a simple ph issue and if you hadnt put in a micro amount of mag it might had never been knowen what the problem was .
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#763555 - 12/28/14 04:53 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now 4 weeks old, and looking much better I think. I chopped the bucket top off and placed her in my new tent, with a 4 tube t5 cfl fixture, with old cfl bulbs as surrounding light. The stalk on this girl is HUGE, but she's only about 8" tall. Since she's an autoflower she's only got about a month and half until harvest.
I withheld watering after last advice to do so. Finally watered yesterday, with NO NUTES, turned the lights off for 6 hours, and came back and took this pic. She's much bushier, but some of the lower leaves have some brown and even rust colored patches. I know yellowing near bottom is normal, but what about the rusty color?
Since she'll b ready soon, I started germination of a delicious critical super silver haze. Still feminized, but this one is photoperiod.
Also, the pH is always 6-6.5. I'm very thorough about my pH since I don't have any of the fancy expensive monitors. I checked my runoff from this recent drink. It was yellowish, but pH was 6. I'm using the pH up/down kit with the drops, to check. Sometimes its hard to distinguish some of the colors, but I always get a second opinion if I'm having trouble.
Edited by Rev. Bud Green (12/28/14 05:05 AM)
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The pH kit with the drops is just OK. Since it ends at 6.0 with yellow, I suspect you may be below 6.0 at times and just not know it. Also with a runoff of 6.0 that would mean maybe going in a little lower than 6.0 Also, 6.0 seems low for soil going in period, or out. More of a hydroponics/coco best pH. I think you'd be better 6.4 or higher in soil but others of course can disagree. In any case, do yourself a favor, spend the $75 bucks or so and get an Eco pH tester. So much nicer plunking it in, waiting a few seconds, and getting your reading down to 0.1 pH.
Also, yellow spotting in veg really isn't "normal". Your top growth looks good so time will tell...
Edited by GoonerHeClips (12/28/14 07:33 AM)
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Quote:
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Now 4 weeks old, and looking much better I think. I chopped the bucket top off and placed her in my new tent, with a 4 tube t5 cfl fixture, with old cfl bulbs as surrounding light. The stalk on this girl is HUGE, but she's only about 8" tall. Since she's an autoflower she's only got about a month and half until harvest.
I withheld watering after last advice to do so. Finally watered yesterday, with NO NUTES, turned the lights off for 6 hours, and came back and took this pic. She's much bushier, but some of the lower leaves have some brown and even rust colored patches. I know yellowing near bottom is normal, but what about the rusty color?
Since she'll b ready soon, I started germination of a delicious critical super silver haze. Still feminized, but this one is photoperiod.
Also, the pH is always 6-6.5. I'm very thorough about my pH since I don't have any of the fancy expensive monitors. I checked my runoff from this recent drink. It was yellowish, but pH was 6. I'm using the pH up/down kit with the drops, to check. Sometimes its hard to distinguish some of the colors, but I always get a second opinion if I'm having trouble.
if you are watering your girls with water that is under 6.5 that is not good if your ph is below 6.5 you will have nuit lock out cause in soil anthing under 6.5 to 6.0 there are three nuts that are locked out ....
here is a link to another site but it has a good ph meter chart you should look at http://www.420magazine.com/forums/indoor-soil-cultivation/114733-ph-nutrient-uptake-charts.html
its the first chart and the first chart has two sets hydro and soil.. look at the set on the right for the soil
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: Mrshroom]
#763563 - 12/28/14 07:38 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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glad your plant came around for you ,that damage on the lower leaves will remain there as your plant has new growth ,your plant is on track good luck
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#763582 - 12/28/14 09:54 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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dmtcorey said:
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Hawksresurrection said:
NO NUTES. NO SALT.
Jesus fucking christ. This plant is in 2.5 gallons of soil and has plenty of nutrients to feed off of.
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dmtcorey said:
do you have purpling in your stems or veins in the leaves?
let your plant dry out ,do a light watering with a dissolved solution 1/2 tsp of epsom salt per gal of water , i cant see the color on the stems but treating it as an magnesium deficiency is better then not treating it at all!
This is just horrible advice. Hey, lets treat, cause treating without knowing is the way to go.
Super bad idea. If the plant already has enough nutrients, and you already burned them with more, you aren't going to "treat" it by adding more nutrients.
Budgrower was spot on with this one. Stop watering, and stop the feeding. Feel how heavy the container is. Pick it up about every 3-4 days. Once its pretty dang light, then you water. It will take a bit to get it down, but it's the best way to determine.
whats with the attitude bro ? i cant see by flushing with a ph balanced solution and a micro amount of mag being as huge deal as you make it out to be . i think a flush with a micro amount of something that aids the plant in becoming green again is a fair call imo. maybe the poster has already made some changes hear ,i wouldnt mind hearing whats going on .
if infact the soil the poster is using already has nutrients in it and was bought like that ,then starting a flush with pure water would be..a way to go ! im going from my experience with using seaweed and epsom salt for bringing unhealthy plant around ,has worked for me many times have a nice day and have a little dam respect to
Because you didn't tell him to flush. You just told him to add Epsom salt on his next watering. If I see bad advice I'm going to call it out. And what you gave him was bad advice. Of course the soil he is using has nutrients in it, that was covered earlier, but you addressed none of this in your original post.
Its fine if you're offended by my post. I could care less. But you're advice was bad. And that's the bottom line.
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Hawksresurrection said:
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dmtcorey said:
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Hawksresurrection said:
NO NUTES. NO SALT.
Jesus fucking christ. This plant is in 2.5 gallons of soil and has plenty of nutrients to feed off of.
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dmtcorey said:
do you have purpling in your stems or veins in the leaves?
let your plant dry out ,do a light watering with a dissolved solution 1/2 tsp of epsom salt per gal of water , i cant see the color on the stems but treating it as an magnesium deficiency is better then not treating it at all!
This is just horrible advice. Hey, lets treat, cause treating without knowing is the way to go.
Super bad idea. If the plant already has enough nutrients, and you already burned them with more, you aren't going to "treat" it by adding more nutrients.
Budgrower was spot on with this one. Stop watering, and stop the feeding. Feel how heavy the container is. Pick it up about every 3-4 days. Once its pretty dang light, then you water. It will take a bit to get it down, but it's the best way to determine.
whats with the attitude bro ? i cant see by flushing with a ph balanced solution and a micro amount of mag being as huge deal as you make it out to be . i think a flush with a micro amount of something that aids the plant in becoming green again is a fair call imo. maybe the poster has already made some changes hear ,i wouldnt mind hearing whats going on .
if infact the soil the poster is using already has nutrients in it and was bought like that ,then starting a flush with pure water would be..a way to go ! im going from my experience with using seaweed and epsom salt for bringing unhealthy plant around ,has worked for me many times have a nice day and have a little dam respect to
Because you didn't tell him to flush. You just told him to add Epsom salt on his next watering. If I see bad advice I'm going to call it out. And what you gave him was bad advice. Of course the soil he is using has nutrients in it, that was covered earlier, but you addressed none of this in your original post.
Its fine if you're offended by my post. I could care less. But you're advice was bad. And that's the bottom line.
if there was a little consideration showen there would be no offence taken ,personally i hope your uncaring attitude doesnt seep over into other areas of your life !
i build my own base medium when it comes to soil ,im not educated with these plug n play mixes ,yes i over looked the posters soil had all the additives in it already ,i still doubt flushing with a mild dose epsom salt would do anything to hurt the plant .
i grow with 404020 soil,pro,perlite ,considered a soil mix ,i bet you would say water with a solution of 6.5 ,,not the case ! its dialed to 5.4 ,and when ever i have had problems i have flushed with both straight water and a mild epsom salt or seaweed solution and im basing my advice on what the plants have personally told me so dont bash my shit .
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#763679 - 12/29/14 09:44 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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if there was a little consideration showen there would be no offence taken ,personally i hope your uncaring attitude doesnt seep over into other areas of your life !
i build my own base medium when it comes to soil ,im not educated with these plug n play mixes ,yes i over looked the posters soil had all the additives in it already ,i still doubt flushing with a mild dose epsom salt would do anything to hurt the plant .
i grow with 404020 soil,pro,perlite ,considered a soil mix ,i bet you would say water with a solution of 6.5 ,,not the case ! its dialed to 5.4 ,and when ever i have had problems i have flushed with both straight water and a mild epsom salt or seaweed solution and im basing my advice on what the plants have personally told me so dont bash my shit .
but there is a huge diff between your mix and his. his mix is 100% store bough with is loaded with HUGE amounts of nuts that takes 4-6 weeks to use up enoff before its even safe to consider adding anything cause its soo hot with nuts.
but were with yours you are cutting the nuts down buy 60% with the pro mix and perlite.... and i make that assumtion based that the other 40% soil has nuits. so if thats the case the stuff u are adding your plants needs because your mix does not have any were near the nuts his does.
so that is why its a bad idea for him to start adding stuff cause his soil has way to much shit in it from the bag and he did 1 feeding before the plant could even handle whats in the soil. so its over kill with adding more stuff for his soil and will fuck his plants up even more.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: Mrshroom]
#763682 - 12/29/14 10:21 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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if there was a little consideration showen there would be no offence taken ,personally i hope your uncaring attitude doesnt seep over into other areas of your life !
i build my own base medium when it comes to soil ,im not educated with these plug n play mixes ,yes i over looked the posters soil had all the additives in it already ,i still doubt flushing with a mild dose epsom salt would do anything to hurt the plant .
i grow with 404020 soil,pro,perlite ,considered a soil mix ,i bet you would say water with a solution of 6.5 ,,not the case ! its dialed to 5.4 ,and when ever i have had problems i have flushed with both straight water and a mild epsom salt or seaweed solution and im basing my advice on what the plants have personally told me so dont bash my shit .
but there is a huge diff between your mix and his. his mix is 100% store bough with is loaded with HUGE amounts of nuts that takes 4-6 weeks to use up enoff before its even safe to consider adding anything cause its soo hot with nuts.
but were with yours you are cutting the nuts down buy 60% with the pro mix and perlite.... and i make that assumtion based that the other 40% soil has nuits. so if thats the case the stuff u are adding your plants needs because your mix does not have any were near the nuts his does.
so that is why its a bad idea for him to start adding stuff cause his soil has way to much shit in it from the bag and he did 1 feeding before the plant could even handle whats in the soil. so its over kill with adding more stuff for his soil and will fuck his plants up even more.
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if there was a little consideration showen there would be no offence taken ,personally i hope your uncaring attitude doesnt seep over into other areas of your life !
i build my own base medium when it comes to soil ,im not educated with these plug n play mixes ,yes i over looked the posters soil had all the additives in it already ,i still doubt flushing with a mild dose epsom salt would do anything to hurt the plant .
i grow with 404020 soil,pro,perlite ,considered a soil mix ,i bet you would say water with a solution of 6.5 ,,not the case ! its dialed to 5.4 ,and when ever i have had problems i have flushed with both straight water and a mild epsom salt or seaweed solution and im basing my advice on what the plants have personally told me so dont bash my shit .
but there is a huge diff between your mix and his. his mix is 100% store bough with is loaded with HUGE amounts of nuts that takes 4-6 weeks to use up enoff before its even safe to consider adding anything cause its soo hot with nuts.
but were with yours you are cutting the nuts down buy 60% with the pro mix and perlite.... and i make that assumtion based that the other 40% soil has nuits. so if thats the case the stuff u are adding your plants needs because your mix does not have any were near the nuts his does.
so that is why its a bad idea for him to start adding stuff cause his soil has way to much shit in it from the bag and he did 1 feeding before the plant could even handle whats in the soil. so its over kill with adding more stuff for his soil and will fuck his plants up even more.
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yes for the most part i agree ,true enough ! and for the other part i leave open for experimenting !
like i had mentioned before i was not aware the poster was using a soil loaded with nuts but the last thing i want to hear when im having my morning coffee tending to the garden is some negative shit.
anyways i look forward to seeing your guys grows in the journal section ,ill be starting a report on some jordan of the islands gear if anyone is interested.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
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yes for the most part i agree ,true enough ! and for the other part i leave open for experimenting !
like i had mentioned before i was not aware the poster was using a soil loaded with nuts but the last thing i want to hear when im having my morning coffee tending to the garden is some negative shit
there is nothing wrong with experimenting, but it has its place on our own plants, give advice that involves other plants is just not cool cause if that advice kills someone plant then they just lost either expensive seeds or clones and time growing it and the money wasted on the light growing.
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counldnt agree more mrshroom ,great advice .
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
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whats with the attitude bro ? i cant see by flushing with a ph balanced solution and a micro amount of mag being as huge deal as you make it out to be . i think a flush with a micro amount of something that aids the plant in becoming green again is a fair call imo. maybe the poster has already made some changes hear ,i wouldnt mind hearing whats going on .
if infact the soil the poster is using already has nutrients in it and was bought like that ,then starting a flush with pure water would be..a way to go ! im going from my experience with using seaweed and epsom salt for bringing unhealthy plant around ,has worked for me many times have a nice day and have a little dam respect to
Because you didn't tell him to flush. You just told him to add Epsom salt on his next watering. If I see bad advice I'm going to call it out. And what you gave him was bad advice. Of course the soil he is using has nutrients in it, that was covered earlier, but you addressed none of this in your original post.
Its fine if you're offended by my post. I could care less. But you're advice was bad. And that's the bottom line.
if there was a little consideration showen there would be no offence taken ,personally i hope your uncaring attitude doesnt seep over into other areas of your life !
i build my own base medium when it comes to soil ,im not educated with these plug n play mixes ,yes i over looked the posters soil had all the additives in it already ,i still doubt flushing with a mild dose epsom salt would do anything to hurt the plant .
i grow with 404020 soil,pro,perlite ,considered a soil mix ,i bet you would say water with a solution of 6.5 ,,not the case ! its dialed to 5.4 ,and when ever i have had problems i have flushed with both straight water and a mild epsom salt or seaweed solution and im basing my advice on what the plants have personally told me so dont bash my shit .
Again, you never told him to flush before hand. Still awful advice to give someone who us experiencing nutrient toxicity. I could care less if I offend you, if it helps the poster to not follow bad advice. I'm not here to coddle people, but to make sure advice like that gets out there.
You really should not be so sensitive.
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well its cool man ,i guess trying to be conscious of others takes sensitivity and i find the more considerate i am the more secluded i become ,i guess i just dont like the feeling i get when i get blasted i have got good information from you in the past and i would like to keep it like that .
its just a simple misunderstanding
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
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there is probably more dissolved solids in the tap water the poster is flushing with compared to the solution i suggest done with RO water .
and there would be much more dissolved solids in a nut containing soil compared to the solution i suggested and the posters plant was fine flushing with more dissolved solids in the medium then i suggested using in a flushing solution .
its not a big deal imo, but if i had knowen the soil was loaded with nuts and there was already a source on micro nuts available i would have suggested pure water like you mentioned even adding another 75 ppms i doubt would be an issue
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
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So far it looks better than before. Just been watering with nothing added. Getting bigger. Will post more pics soon. Thanks for everyone's help.
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Day 31 for first pic, and 38 for 2nd. Been watering with no nutes, about every 4-5 days, and misting leaves every other day. Do the yellow tips look like mute burn, or heat stress? Average temp is 80° and CFLs are about 5" away, on an 18/6 hr cycle. If I need to flush what part of light cycle should I do it? When they come on, go off, or what?
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Is this thing starting flowering mode? (If so, keep the foliage dry) looks like she got wet...
Looks happy though...
If it were mine I wouldn't flush it as it appears to be working through it, but
most people do things involving water when the light cycle starts so the plant can use that water when its doing work. Not the most important thing in the world really though
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
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Yes they are both autoflower and are in flowering. I didn't know not to mist the leaves, but that will stop now. I'd rather not flush if its not needed. Got about 3-4 weeks until harvest.
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You have more than 4 weeks until harvest
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: webster10]
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I will believe u more than the seed package. Just by the looks, how long would u guess?
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Well, for autos a seed company just wants to post the quickest finishing time. Autos can develop some buds pretty quickly but honestly from the looks of things I'd say 5-6 weeks. Definitely stop the spraying, you don't want to accidentally rot the buds. Just keep posting pictures every once in a while and some members will weigh in on finishing time when it becomes more clear when it's going to finish
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: webster10]
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Cool, thanks. What's your opinion on flushing? Does it look like I may need to?
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ok most autos will go between 4-5 weeks for flowering. but when i grow my autos ill go between 5-6 weeks. give them a extra week to make sure all the trics are all changed over from clear to a milk white and amber mix. But that is also based on my strains so u will need to look up the strain to find out what the recomended flowering time is. also make sure you check the trics cause that is the only way to really know when its ready.
also as for flushing u want to flush a week to two weeks before harvest to help flush all the excess nuits out of the soil wich will help allow the plant to use up what is stored in it so that it will help make a smoother smoke
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: Mrshroom]
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Looks great, keep it up
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: webster10]
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Thanks man. Just sucks its gonna take soooo long until I get to smoke some hehehe.
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Well plant sme seeds and get a litle cycle going...
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
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i see claw and nitrogen overdose, giving it too much water?
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: ShortCircuit]
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i see claw and nitrogen overdose, giving it too much water?
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
#764804 - 01/09/15 08:21 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've got 2 sleeckstack skunk seedlings going, bout 3 days from seed. They're photoperiod though. I may plant my last 2 auto seeds now so I can harvest them before I'm ready to flower my photos.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: ShortCircuit]
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I don't think so, but can't b positive. Last watering was 5 days ago, and bucket just now feeling light again. Need to water soon I think. Still not using nutes either.
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Well man. like I said originally, with that soil, which is very rich, you shouldn't have to for a while...
If you do need to, you can start at one quarter strength or something like that... its also not as easy to "flush" this soil, as it is organic solids, like ground up fish bones ect., and not a juiced soil-less mix
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
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Thanks man. I cant wait to see the end result. I think curing will b the hardest part, letting it sit without smoking it hahaha
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Everyone has been very helpful and I again thank u guys for the help with my probs. Now I have a question to help me plan my next batch. I'm using "roots organics: original" potting soil. Since I'm using a lot of soil for a single plant, 2.5-3 gallons, for an autoflower, and it seems to have more than enough nutrients for the life of the plant, could I use the same soil for my next autoflower grow? I've already bought maxigro and maxibloom nutrients, so if the soils nutes are depleted, couldn't I just use the nutes I bought, with the same soil?
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Everyone has been very helpful and I again thank u guys for the help with my probs. Now I have a question to help me plan my next batch. I'm using "roots organics: original" potting soil. Since I'm using a lot of soil for a single plant, 2.5-3 gallons, for an autoflower, and it seems to have more than enough nutrients for the life of the plant, could I use the same soil for my next autoflower grow? I've already bought maxigro and maxibloom nutrients, so if the soils nutes are depleted, couldn't I just use the nutes I bought, with the same soil?
Dump it. Start over. Use old soil outside for vegetables.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: GoonerHeClips]
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Ok, so when I plant my next batch of autos, since they only grow to about 2.5 feet, and only take 3-4 months to harvest, what size pot should I use, so I don't waste as much soil?
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I personally use 3 gallon bags for autos. But I have heard people using 5 gallon with good results. With that said you could get a good harvest from 3 gallon bags.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: Deadkndys420]
#765711 - 01/15/15 10:46 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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i no with non autos smaller pots give faster finishing times.dont grow auto so i cant say ,i would still bet on it tho !
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#765778 - 01/15/15 04:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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well the best advice i could give for autos is grow them in dwc. cause you will get alot more growth in the short grow period that they have , so with the faster growth will end in more yield cause u will have a bigger plant.. and keep them under 20 hours of light a day in grow and flower stage.
with that set up like that im pulling about 2.5 oz off a auto in 8-10 weeks from start of growth to harvest time.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: Mrshroom]
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i think thats great advice to go with the dwc ,since i have gone dwc that has become my main method of growing ,love it !
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#766091 - 01/17/15 04:46 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've never looked in to dwc or hydro growing. Is it easy for beginners to start or set up? $ is my biggest determining factor.
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Luckily, all the parts are super cheap thanks to fish tanks and relating parts...
I tried hydro but it wasn't for me
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
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What about it turned u off?
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Those flowering plants are craving for more light spectrum (lumens). Good job so far.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: m3kgt]
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: m3kgt]
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Those flowering plants are craving for more light spectrum (lumens). Good job so far.
plants dont see lums..... lums is a measurement of light that the human eye can see. So when all these light bulbs companies stat that they have more lums then another is just putting big numbers on a box to make the uneducated think there is product is more superior then the otheres
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: Mrshroom]
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Those flowering plants are craving for more light spectrum (lumens). Good job so far.
plants dont see lums..... lums is a measurement of light that the human eye can see. So when all these light bulbs companies stat that they have more lums then another is just putting big numbers on a box to make the uneducated think there is product is more superior then the otheres
can i please add to this?
the inverse square law shows that light diminishes in intensity the farther away you get from the source, and to what degree.
hortilux has a 400w HPS bulb rated at 55k lumens for a price of about $90+
Ultra Sun makes a 400w HPS with 50k lumens for a price of only $20 (you can find them for half that on amazon)
it comes down to what you think is worth it really... the ultra sun will do just about everything you need it to do, just about as well as the higher quality bulbs.. but a lot of them i have seen come scuffed and can have knicks in the glass... the ones that didnt, worked just fine and are reliable.
the hortilux bulb is going to be tuned IIRC better for the digital ballast and if you want the most amount of lumens possible for certain range then you could go with the hortilux... from where i am standing i don't see much of a reason to though, it's a matter of 5,000 lumens.
remember though, space dictates what type of wattage light you should use.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: ShortCircuit]
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Im using a t5 cfl fixture, cuz I can't afford better right now. Its a few inches away from the tops. I have 4 26w and 1 42w bulbs surrounding the plants. I'll b adding more when I get paid again. The regular bulbs are 2700k, but the 4 tube t5 fixture is still using 6500k until I can purchase the 2700k tubes.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: ShortCircuit]
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Those flowering plants are craving for more light spectrum (lumens). Good job so far.
plants dont see lums..... lums is a measurement of light that the human eye can see. So when all these light bulbs companies stat that they have more lums then another is just putting big numbers on a box to make the uneducated think there is product is more superior then the otheres
can i please add to this?
the inverse square law shows that light diminishes in intensity the farther away you get from the source, and to what degree.
hortilux has a 400w HPS bulb rated at 55k lumens for a price of about $90+
Ultra Sun makes a 400w HPS with 50k lumens for a price of only $20 (you can find them for half that on amazon)
it comes down to what you think is worth it really... the ultra sun will do just about everything you need it to do, just about as well as the higher quality bulbs.. but a lot of them i have seen come scuffed and can have knicks in the glass... the ones that didnt, worked just fine and are reliable.
the hortilux bulb is going to be tuned IIRC better for the digital ballast and if you want the most amount of lumens possible for certain range then you could go with the hortilux... from where i am standing i don't see much of a reason to though, it's a matter of 5,000 lumens.
remember though, space dictates what type of wattage light you should use.
well i was not trying to get into huge details i was just trying to point out a miss informed fact that most bulb makers try to use to against the uneducated customer or the shady grow stores that will use that to try to get you to spend a extra 50 for a bulb when it really lums numbers really have no bearing on what is considered a good quality bulb. Just trying to help the guy out so he wont get fucked out of money.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: Mrshroom]
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Its all good guys, I appreciate the concern and the help. When I do finally get an HP's setup its gonna b on the cheaper end anyway. Walmart has a 400w setup for $150, but may take a bit for me to get it. I really don't have the cash for a great setup. I work my ass off for pennies, so I'm trying to save a lot of $ by growing my own. I have to upgrade as I go over time. Considering a hydro setup too.
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HIDs (mh)or (hps) lamps are built for shear intensity not for spectrum ,leds on the other hand are built for spectrum ,but when weighed out your better off to run cheap bulbs that are $20 a pop instead of paying 90 a pop ,even if there is a 5000 lumen difference still the cheaper lamp puts out more bang for the buck ,better to run the lamps for a couple runs and switch em out imo
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
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My CFLs are fairly cheap, and 2700k, and I have a few surrounding, while the t5 fixture has 4 tubes at 6400k. Every other week I'm able to buy a little more. My intention is to buy 2700k tubes for the t5 as soon as I can. The buds are looking good but they're not fattening up as much as I'd hoped. Would it b better to change the t5s to 2700k, or keep the 6400ks to provide a broader spectrum?
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For flower, switch to the 2700k. You could get away with leaving the 6400k for the first week or two. I've heard it can help prevent stretching.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: webster10]
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Thanks, will do.
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My CFLs are fairly cheap, and 2700k, and I have a few surrounding, while the t5 fixture has 4 tubes at 6400k. Every other week I'm able to buy a little more. My intention is to buy 2700k tubes for the t5 as soon as I can. The buds are looking good but they're not fattening up as much as I'd hoped. Would it b better to change the t5s to 2700k, or keep the 6400ks to provide a broader spectrum?
well with cfls you dont get the amount of light out of them that plants need. Cfls wast alot of power discharging heat instead of more light. The only good place a cfl has is for a first time grower who just wants to see if they are interested in it . cause in the end just sticking to cfls will be wasting your time and money cause you just cant get any yield off a cfl thats even worth mentioning
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: Mrshroom]
#767090 - 01/24/15 10:07 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can see what u mean, I just don't have the $ all at once to get a good light yet. If I get a hps/mh setup, I would also have to get an inline duct fan, correct?
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cfl's are great for seedling growth because they aren't as hot...
but yeah definitely, get yourself an inline duct fan and a carbon scrubber, and have the ducting run to an air-cooled/enclosed lamp housing, like from Sun system
https://www.hydroponics.net/i/140770
this is just one example of many and greatly reduces heat and smell from your indoor garden.
when you do get an inline fan and you decide you want to add a carbon scrubber, make sure the CFM numbers match to a degree (cubic feet per minute)
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: ShortCircuit]
#767117 - 01/24/15 02:58 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wtf wallyworld sells that shit? Sweet!
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Do you think its worth investing in or do u think it'll burn my house down hahaha?
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oeric mckenna
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Check out the Apollo light kits on Amazon..com
They have cooled hoods too. The prices are rock bottom
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
#767356 - 01/26/15 01:57 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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just don't get the kits with those circular, dome-like light fixtures; they have an inferior reflecting profile.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: ShortCircuit]
#767504 - 01/27/15 02:39 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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What u guys think? Few more weeks until harvest or longer still?
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Young white hairs... looks like quite a ways to go to me man
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
#768682 - 02/08/15 09:48 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its looking good though
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Thanks guys. I took a sample last night and quick dried it. Still tasted very good and stoned me quite nicely. I can only imagine how shell b once fully matured and properly cured. Will post more pics in coming weeks.
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yep looks real nice! 3 weeks maybe?
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Sweet. Gonna water tomorrow, havnt used nutes in a long time. Most leaves have turned yellow, shrivelled, and fell off. Is that any indication that I should maybe feed her once more before harvest?
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Yes, that means she's lacking for nutes, I would definitely fed her, you got a ways to go before harvest
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Its coming along very nicely
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
#768954 - 02/13/15 06:01 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks, I feel like a proud daddy who's kid hit the game winning basket hahaha
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Any thoughts bout the two products? I need to chose one soon to order for my next grow.
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I've never used them but I'm considering a new 1000watter from them.
Super low prices... the reviews are pretty high overall
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: oeric mckenna]
#769473 - 02/19/15 08:11 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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lookn nice ,
I got the 600w kit from iponicszone ,same kind of kit and out of six units I had to have 2 ballasts replaced under the warranty within days before it expired .
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#769489 - 02/20/15 08:48 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Almost every review for light setups that I've read have complaints about the ballasts going out, and in some cases ruined entire grows.
So if I got a 400w or 600w hps, and it failed, would the CFLs I'm using now work to finish the grow? I know the yeild would suffer but they would at least make it to harvest right? Or would the cfl not work since they're used to the HPs? Right now I'm using a 2' t5 4tube fixture with 6 surrounding bulbs totalling around 280watts.
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oh it would still bring you to the finish line as long as you don't break your 1212 light cycle ,
I say you would still be more then fine getting one of those kits , the yield your going to get from the hps should cover the cost of the garden and then some with the first harvest .
hps is the way to go ,
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#769567 - 02/20/15 06:40 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool thanks, I'll get a HPs kit and just keep my CFLs as backup.
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I've bought Sun System for years, only had one out of 6 go bad on me. And it was just a switch. They are very reliable.
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Buds are fatting right up huh!!
Nice plant !
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Hell yeah they are, thanks man. She needs water tomorrow, I'm thinking no more nutes, unless you guys think I've still got awhile?
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hey hawk are thos the lighting units with the ballasts built right into the hood?
nice lookn flowers bud green .
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#770456 - 02/28/15 07:53 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm sure they make those, but I don't use em
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On some of the lower buds, the hairs seem to b changing color faster, should I go ahead and pull the branches that seem to b ripe?
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I wouldn't. Chop the whole thing at one time
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First two pis are a cpl surrounding branches, third pic is midway up main stalk. Looking like a lot of the hairs have turned color and curled. What u guys think? Its my first good plant and I know timing is key, so I'd really like to get it right.
Any tips for preparing to harvest? I've read that some ppl give 24hrs of dark before pulling.
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I remember seeing sun systems all in one in high times a long time ago so that's what I remember them as .
I think thos could go another couple weeks bud green,
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#770639 - 03/01/15 09:17 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn, really? I was hoping she was much closer.
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My meters finally arrived today and I took some measurements, hopefully can get some help understanding. PH I get, but the TDs meter barely even came with instructions.
I have water drawn from the tap from 24+ hrs ago, and water freshly drawn from same tap. PH is kinda high, but I can adjust that. The fresh water read 461ppm and the older water measured 500ppm. I'm sure those are high numbers, but what is the range I'm looking for and how do I adjust?
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lots of the guys will look at the trikes with a microscope and harvest when they turn amber ,that's proly the best way to get a tell .
see what others have to say .
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#770721 - 03/02/15 05:41 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's what I do. But there's always other people who will havea different opinion on that.
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Is there anything I can refer to suggesting plants desired ppm tds throughout different stages and strains?
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Not that I'm aware of. Each strain tends to have different pheno types, unless you ate getting them from a decent breeder and they have things stabilized.
You just need to gain experience and remember to keep things low.
Your starting ppm is super high. Contact you're municipality to see what the read out is
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After distilling my own water, I got the ppm down to 130ppm.
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Quote:
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After distilling my own water, I got the ppm down to 130ppm.
That's about the same ppm as my moderately hard well water. Distilled/RO water should be less than 10 ppm.
Why not buy some CrystalGeyserTM spring water at a buck a gallon jug? It's not like you need a hundred gallons or anything. The time and money you spent trying to distill water and the energy cost surely had to be that or more.
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: GoonerHeClips]
#771473 - 03/10/15 07:06 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I started a grow journal for my next batch, hope to see u guys there too. I will post final pics, yield, and comments after harvest and drying.
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cool man
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Re: stiff and drooping leaves [Re: dmtcorey]
#772757 - 03/18/15 03:50 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Final weight was 2 oz. Thanks all you guys for your help. I would definitely recommend northern lights for new growers.
For my grow log, is there something I do to make it viewable to ppl, or do ppl just have to look for it?
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