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 UltimateDevotion
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 Having pH problems 
#692277 - 11/06/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? seed
2. How old are your plants? 3 months
3. How tall are your plants? topped and lst ( pretty bushy)
4. What size containers are they planted in? 5 gal buckets
5. What is your soil mix? ffof
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering? when the buckets are light
7. What is the pH of your water? 6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? none
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") 600 wt HPS
11. How close are your lights to the plants? 1 1/2 ft
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 8
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space? 63-77 f 40 percent humidity
14. What is the pH of the soil? run off is 4.9
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? no
16. How much experience do you have growing? 2nd grow
Here are some shitty pix
  
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How long has this been going on man? This couldn't have developed overnight.
I can't think of anything but pH lock out by the way those look. Just flushing with plain pH'd water isn't going to correct that. I would add hydrated lime and dolomite lime to a watering. However, you HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL, too much can kill your plants.
The MOST you can add of hydrated lime is about 0.5 cups per cubic foot of soil, and 2.5 cups of dolomite lime per cubic foot of soil. Hydrated lime works instantly and lasts about 2 weeks. The dolomitic lime is long acting and will stay in the soil to help buffer it. That should raise it about 1 point. Which should be enough. I really wouldn't go over that amount.
Good luck man.
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The problem started about 1 1/2 weeks ago, and that's when I checked the run off and was like wtf. I'm goin out now to get some lime. How do you deal with the pH because I diligently make sure that the water going in is correct? Thanks hawk.
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I don't know what's causing your soil to go so acidic. I never have to adjust the pH of my soil. Are you sure your meter is calibrated correctly?
I'm curious if there could be a possibility of a microbial imbalance that is causing it. That's really just a shot in the dark though. I always add Karma, and beneficial microbes to my plants.
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Well, I'm back with some of this Pennington fast acting lime plus. Don't know if it's dolomite or hydrated, well it's not wet.
This is the stuff  It looks like this  It'actually a lot darker, the flash lightened it up good bit. I'm not quite sure how to go about applying this stuff.
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I'm sure it's calibrated correctly and I also refer to my GH pH drops and they always match up.
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Not the right stuff. You need dolomit, and hydrated. Hydrated lime isn't wet, it's just water soluble. And you want powdered dolomite lime. Pebbles are going going to take years to work.
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Also, you really shouldn't handling that with bare hands.
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Ok, thanks, that's all home depot had. Hopefully I'll be able to find something tomorrow. Is that why my hand feels tingly?
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possibly
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Call around to nurseries, they should have it
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Thanks. I ran about 4 gal of pH balanced water through each bucket today(until you mentioned flushing isn't gonna help), when I hopefully get this stuff tomorrow, would you reccomend adding some nutes?
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Once you get the pH corrected, yes I would. A small amount to begin with.
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Thanks again man, If I was in Oregon I'd buy you a drink or 10!
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Are you saying I need dolomite AND hydrated? So I need to get them both?
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Adding the dolomite lime to a watering will stabilize the PH and add calcium and lime to the soil. I think Epsom salt for plants (not the grocery store kind) will do the same thing.
What kind of water are you using though? The way that the young leaves have developed burned leaf tips plus the way they are yellow, smaller and slower to develop makes me think you have a chlorine toxicity in your soil. Severe chlorine deficiencies and excess of chlorine have the same yellowy bronze-colored leaf symptom though. It's pretty uncommon to have a deficiency of chlorine because most municipal water sources have chlorine found in them.
To treat a chlorine toxicity simply let your water sit out overnight, stirring occasionally, and the chlorine will volatilize and dissipate into the atmosphere. Use this water to mix your nutrient solution and feed your garden with. As you know, always know the PH of your water after the nutrient solution has been mixed into the water before you put the nutrient enriched water into the growing medium. Before water goes anywhere near my plants the water is dumped into a reservoir and left to sit for at least 24 hours to dechlorinate while a bubble stone runs in the water to oxygenate the water too.
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: hamloaf]
#692303 - 11/06/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use my tap water and it has a ppm of about 120 and I ALWAYS let my jugs sit without a lid til I use it. Surely THAT wouldn't be my problem?
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Do you stir the water? The water has to move in order for toxic levels of chlorine to be able to volatilize from the water. Adding a small electric water pump for the sole purpose of moving the water around works well for that application too.
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: hamloaf]
#692308 - 11/06/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I shake the shit out of it and my city's water Is supposedly a 4 ppm for chlorine.  I strongly believe its ph or what's affecting it.
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Yes you want both. Hydrated will help fix it immediately. Dolomite will help in the long run. Remember to ere on the side of less is more.
It's wholly possible that something has changed in your tap water, or it's shitty tap water. Have obtained an analysis of it?
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UltimateDevotion
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Do ya think those pebbles are good for anything? Spent $17 on the bag and opened It up.
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UltimateDevotion
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Lol, that's what I figured
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I just picked up some horticultural hydrated lime and some epsoma garden lime. Unfortunately I have to wait til after work to do anything, kInda nervous dont wanna kill em but they're lookin pretty shitty.
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Quote:
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The MOST you can add of hydrated lime is about 0.5 cups per cubic foot of soil, and 2.5 cups of dolomite lime per cubic foot of soil. Hydrated lime works instantly and lasts about 2 weeks. The dolomitic lime is long acting and will stay in the soil to help buffer it. That should raise it about 1 point. Which should be enough. I really wouldn't go over that amount.
Good luck man.
Would I be adding both of the limes to the same water? I'm new at this.
Also, after I add this stuff how would I be monitor the ph over the the next few day? If I were to be checking the run off I would be inviting over watering problems.
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Edited by UltimateDevotion (11/07/13 09:47 AM)
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Yes both at the same time. You are just going to have to wait until you can water again. Just remember to ere of the side of less is more.
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You think I should do, say, half the amt you suggested?
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To be safe I would. And remember, what I gave you was an equation, gotta do a little math 
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I mean, it's kind of a double edged sword. We want to get the pH up as quickly as possible, but we don't want to go overboard and kill the plants.
Disclaimer, they're already pretty fucked up, were just trying to salvage what we can at this point.
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I'm aware of that, I'm pretty good with math, thanks. Now is there a specific process of dissolving it in water or as easy as putting it in water and shake the shit out of it?
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Slowly stir it in. It can take awhile, and the dolomite probably wont completely dissolve, and that's ok.
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Thanks I'll keep ya posted.
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Ok Hawk, I mixed this shit to a little over half of what you said should be max, it looks like chocolate milk hope that's normal. Gonna let the stuff dissolve for a few more minutes then in it goes.
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Cool. Let's cross our fingers!
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It appears as though I may be losing this battle, and I thought I was doing everything perfectly. 
The only thing I can think of is bad tap water with ppm of 124.
I'm gonna let these go until there's seemingly zero chance of getting better then gather any tiny buds. Man this is depressing.
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That sucks man.
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Dam man thats it ???
Its passed fixable??
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UltimateDevotion
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I don't know yet, just gonna let em go for a bit and hope for the best.
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dam man hope for yea!!!!!
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Here they are today, and yes, my iphone camera sucks.
  
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Unfortunately damage was already done. The leaves won't repair. But you should look for new, healthier bud growth
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The bud sites, themselves, look alright but those leaves, sheesh. Sucks, I kinda just wanna start over but at the same time i know I'm gonna get SOME smoke frOm this. I'm not gonna beat myself up though this is Only my 2nd grow and I'm gonna keep at it and learn as much as I can.
They really looked great all through veg, after 2 months of veg and I didn't see sex so I flipped lIghts, rid of males and that's when I noticed the downhill start.
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Dam man .
Like hawk said just look for new growth . Wish you the best!! 
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UltimateDevotion
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Thanks
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I think the new growth is lookIng pretty decent, I think I'm gonna give em a splash of nutes this weekend.
Meanwhile I found my old 250 watt MH I'm eventually gonna use for a mom and clones, but for now I have a bunch of auto seeds I'm gonna grow a few under that and use distilled water and my tap water side by side and see if my water is the issue.
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They're definitely coming around, the buds seem to be progressing nicely compared to how these plants looked the last couple of weeks.
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Ph drop can be a sign of root disease, bacterial growth and rotting in the substrate I believe.
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: TomCollins]
#694082 - 11/17/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know I haven't over watered at all prior ti the symptoms. Maybe they got a slightly over dosage of water when I half ass flushed them and adding the lime but, hey, they're definitely coming around.
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: TomCollins]
#694086 - 11/17/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ph drop can be a sign of root disease, bacterial growth and rotting in the substrate I believe.
It can be, doesn't mean that's what caused it though. There are all sorts of factors that can cause pH imbalance.
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When it drops bellow 5.0, it's an indicator that bacteria may be releasing organic acids more rapidly than usual into the substrate. It's not uncommon to develop root diseases or pathogens either, so I wouldn't rule it out.
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: TomCollins]
#694097 - 11/17/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know that you read a lot, and can repeat what you read. But I have years of actual experience. What your describing isn't really all that common, and shouldn't be a first conclusion to jump to.
All of you should be adding beneficial organisms that would prevent things like that anyway.
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Talk to me about these beneficial organisms. I have this floralicious plus shit that I use.
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PHC biopack. It's a beneficial bacteria supplement. Really great stuff, very water soluble. You should also be using a mychorrizal supplement.
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Quote:
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I know that you read a lot, and can repeat what you read. But I have years of actual experience. What your describing isn't really all that common, and shouldn't be a first conclusion to jump to.
All of you should be adding beneficial organisms that would prevent things like that anyway.
Lol, I think that's a really retarded way to reason. When I repeat things, they usually comes from growers who claim the same as you -- years of experience. What I said was it can be, it may be and that it shouldn't be ruled out -- I'm not trying to make conclusions, I'm trying to make discussion. So I'm not really sure who amongst us is truly jumping to conclusions here.
That aside, here my plea: why can't you provide some sort of explanation as to why it could not possibly be bacteria (something that seems like is in overwhelming supply in the root zones of many plants.) Why don't you share your knowledge of these things from your years of experience, since you seem to be so full of that. Aren't for example, the various strains pythium pretty common? How many known causes are there for severe negative PH swings?
I'm not trying to argue with you what the causes of his PH swings are, as he said the plants are now perking up -- I don't have the experience to be able to back myself up in such an argument, but I cannot see why my contributions can't be discussed as they are not at all irrelevant. I can't see what is being learned from you when you give explanations that are so vague as "I have years of experience."
@Ultimate, not saying my word is better than Hawks but Subculture is also another BB/BM supplement that's good, and AN's SensiZym can be used as a treatment for root rot, bacteria and other. You can do your own research.
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: TomCollins]
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Too drunk to argue with you, but like I said. It's not common.
Having a high amount of peat is more of a common cause than bacterial overgrowth. And FFOF has quite a bit of peat moss.
I'm arguing that bacterial overgrowth isn't common. So shouldn't be considered until the other aspects are taken care of.
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Quote:
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I'm not trying to argue with you
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Too drunk to argue with you
You're just too drunk.
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Having a high amount of peat is more of a common cause than bacterial overgrowth. And FFOF has quite a bit of peat moss.
I'm arguing that bacterial overgrowth isn't common. So shouldn't be considered until the other aspects are taken care of.
That's what I was looking for  thank you.
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: TomCollins]
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I'm not trying to argue with you
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Too drunk to argue with you
You're just too drunk.
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usually
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I appreciate both of your inputs.
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Lies 
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No lies in my thread please, thank u. 
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No lies in my thread please, thank u.
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No lies in my thread please, thank u.
That's it bro,
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I'm not trying to argue with you
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Too drunk to argue with you
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: hamloaf]
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Have these plants not been feed in over 3 months like I'm reading in the first post?
I'd flush with a clearx or sledgehammer type of product to remove any who know what could be in there it's just to be safe.
Then I'd start putting the plants on a feeding program that included a full nutrient solution that has been ph adjusted.
Now remember when you check the ph the day you feed it's gonna be lower the next time you check. The plants use water faster then nutrients and there is evaperation what this does is cause the ppm to go up and when that happens what happens to the ph.........................it drops.  esp when checking using the water runoff method.
Fox Farm has a lot of stuff in it for fast starting growth but earthworm castings, bat guano, and sea-going fish and crab meal are all fast acting but also used up fast.
Now I'm going by the first post and that I haven't read anything about the plants being fed. FFOF does not have 3 months of food in it esp if your watering to the point of run off. You can cure the ph problem but but one thing nobody else including the drunken monkey has said is that even if you cure the ph problem the plants won't look any better if there is no food for them. 
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: Magash]
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That's assuming he's been in the same container the entire 3 months, which I doubt. Even still, he will need some nutrients.
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I started flowering nutes at 1/3 strength just on Saturday. I was erring on the side of waiting til the plants told me they were hungry(I still got much to learn). And yes, they were transPlanted twIce. Thanks for chiming in Mag.
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I was going to just add the dolomite lime to my future grows from the get go. Is that not a good idea? I will definitely pick up some mycorrhizal supps and the PHC bio pack is freakin pricey. Is there anything specific i should get or stay away from? Hawks, Mag tell me your thoughts.
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I was going to just add the dolomite lime to my future grows from the get go. Is that not a good idea?
I wouldn't unless you needed to. Start the plants on a feeding routine before waiting 3 months. Usually start after 3 to 4 weeks.
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I will definitely pick up some mycorrhizal supps and the PHC bio pack is freakin pricey.
Cool, myself I don't use em but many many people do. Once I see somebody getting larger yeilds then I'm getting with just nutrients then I'll believe the hype.
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: Magash]
#694491 - 11/19/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't use them for bigger yields. I use them to help maintain a balanced soil.
And if he transplanted twice, then he would have just now been need nutes.
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Could I purchase just one product for this purpose or will I need multiple items and, like I said, the PHC bio pack I've been seeIng on the web runs like $70 for 5 lb. I am a bit strapped at the moment. Point me in the right direction bro.
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That's the only one I like. Only bacteria supplement I would recommend
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I don't use them for bigger yields. I use them to help maintain a balanced soil.
It's also just a good preventative for a host of problems.
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Ok I fed with 1/3 strength FF flower cycle nutes on Saturday. When they're ready to be watered again should I feed at a higher strength, stay the same or just plain water?
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gotta read the plant to know that
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Yeah, the green color is working its way back, il get a pic up in the next day or two and see what u think. They are definiy doing much better, I at one point thought they were gonners.
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Ok here's the status
The one on the left is the worst.
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So I fed them today a half strength dosage and the pH of my run off is at about 6.8.
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What was the starting pH?
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6.8 goin in, and coming out. Weird?
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Nope, that means it's stable. Perfect.
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