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Sick clones
    #666213 - 04/15/13 06:22 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 



Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? Clones
2. How old are your plants? month old
3. How tall are your plants? foot
4. What size containers are they planted in? 1 gallon pots
5. What is your soil mix?ffof
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?I wait till the weight light and water with tape water
7. What is the pH of your water?6.0 6.7
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?non
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") fluorescent t5
11. How close are your lights to the plants? inch or so?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?4 feet wide, 10feet long, 8 foot tall
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?75
14. What is the pH of the soil?didnt check yet?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?non
16. How much experience do you have growing?third indoor


Dont know what i did?  I think Its a Phosphorus def Any help is appreciated .

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #666237 - 04/15/13 07:00 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

Get better lighting and turn off the flash.

Also, fill out the questionnaire


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #666243 - 04/15/13 07:25 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

Hawk ill get you some better pic tommorrow sorry!

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #666381 - 04/16/13 02:13 AM (11 years, 3 days ago)

And you will fill out the questionnaire


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #666399 - 04/16/13 04:46 AM (11 years, 3 days ago)

I did that last night its in the first post.

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #666412 - 04/16/13 08:05 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Yeah seems like P deff.

Nice slippers there:blush:


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Maestro]
    #666415 - 04/16/13 08:19 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

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Yeah seems like P deff.

Nice slippers there:blush:




LOL I were them all the time .Ok how should i fix this just flush ?

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #666425 - 04/16/13 10:31 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

I'd transplant to a bigger pot.


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #666440 - 04/16/13 12:03 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)



Here you go best i could get plus I think my flowering girls are clawing? Not sure.

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #666456 - 04/16/13 02:29 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Transplanting would be best, give them a boost. And by watering well after transplanting you basically "flush" so it's actually saving you work lol.

Not sure about clones, but seedlings are ready for transplant when they're the size of the pot (height and width)....well now that I think about it, it may be ready earlier idk lol that's the rule I follow though:like:


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Maestro]
    #666465 - 04/16/13 06:17 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Dam I really didnt want to put them in more soil . I need them to be small so I can pack in the woods But if I have to I will just to save them then ill flower them Indoors

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #666470 - 04/16/13 07:05 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

I think it would be the easiest fix.


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #666489 - 04/16/13 08:45 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

The strain probably doesn't take well to small containers. Some will as evidenced by magash's Dixie cup grow.

It doesn't have to be a bigger plant because its in a bigger pot though, you can train/trim the "extra".  I think this is madness unless you're guerrilla growing tho. If I had to I would bonsai trim them and make small bushes.


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Maestro]
    #666490 - 04/16/13 09:05 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Ok Ill do it in the moring  what size should I go with and yes Its a guerilla grow

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #666503 - 04/16/13 10:32 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Well normally I would recommend 5 gallons.  But that's going to be a bitch to get up to where you want them.  When were you planning on getting them out there?


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    #666515 - 04/17/13 07:06 AM (11 years, 1 day ago)

I wanted to wait till May so Im sure there wont be any frost  Can I put them out sooner?
I have all these to put outside some were too

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #667452 - 04/24/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Here is my sick clone after flushing a week ago?

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #667469 - 04/24/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Looks like it's too big for that pot and needs to be transplanted.


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #667493 - 04/25/13 03:13 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Ok ill try that next . But the soil is still really wet from the flush? Should i still transplant ?

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #667497 - 04/25/13 05:18 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I'd wait so you could water right after the transplant

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    #667514 - 04/25/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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I'd wait so you could water right after the transplant



  I was thinking the same  thing Maestero.

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #668026 - 04/28/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

You believe its still not dry I dont think?WTF??

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #668049 - 04/28/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

What are you talking about?


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    #668071 - 04/28/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Well it still can take a watering after this long even if not dry, so I'd transplant now

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    #668077 - 04/28/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, well after a flush the soil is completely saturated.  It will take a long time to dry up.  Just be patient.

And like maestro said, transplanting would be fine.


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #668112 - 04/28/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Im going to water after right? I hope this fixes the problem.

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #668260 - 04/29/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

After you transplant?  Yes


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #668275 - 04/29/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks im going to do it in like ten min Ill update afer with pics!

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #668878 - 05/02/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Well here they are transplanted day or tow ago? put outside.

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    #668893 - 05/02/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Looking better already:rastamon:

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    #668898 - 05/02/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Im tring man . If they make it they will be so big by croptober!!!!!! :yay:

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #668918 - 05/03/13 01:21 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

i love this one :yay:


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    #668929 - 05/03/13 02:43 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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i love this one :yay:




One of my favorites.


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    #668935 - 05/03/13 06:17 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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i love this one :yay:




One of my favorites.




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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #669404 - 05/06/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

These are my first clones even one in flowering some stuff wrong little help maybe huh?

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    #669439 - 05/06/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Pics on the right look like nitrogen overdose to me.


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    #669482 - 05/07/13 02:05 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Once i started to see this I have not been giving it any nut. or anything. I watered yesrterday Its in a 5 gallon bucket but its only half full of soil. So I gave her like four gallons of ph of 6.6 run off was like 6.7 6.8? And I still didnt give it any food after that?

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    #669527 - 05/07/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Well it's going to take time man, not feeding once or twice isn't going to make it resolve overnight.


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    #669531 - 05/07/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Also the clone is 35 days in flower

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    #669646 - 05/07/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Well you should be feeding with a low nitrogen formula to begin with.


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #669690 - 05/08/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

All I think I gave it was Tiger bloom,LK/cal/mag. And some one gave me some Beasty bloom? Should I use it ? I guess Im suppose to feed it Beasty bloom the last cuple weeks of flower. I really dont know?

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    #669698 - 05/08/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

What about big bloom? Those micro and macros

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    #669699 - 05/08/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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What about big bloom? Those micro and macros



:mygoditsfullofstars:

I didnt get it didnt know if i needed it ? y two bloom nut.? Maybe thats y my plants are getting fucked up

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Re: Sick clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #669715 - 05/08/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

There's many nutes except n, p and k. Here's a good read, but in your case i really doubt that being the problem.

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http://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-forum/showthread.php?33-What-are-Macro-Micro-Nutrients-and-what-is-each-responsible-for

"What are Macro-/Micro-Nutrients, and what is each responsible for?


Summary of Macronutrients

Macronutrients are the elements most vital to all plant-life. There are three major and most prominent macronutrients: Nitrogen (“N”), Phosphorus (“P”), and Potassium (“K”). All fertilizers contain these three fundamental elements, but in varying amounts, depending on fertilizer type/brand. The N-P-K ratio of the fertilizer will be listed on the side of the container/box in the form of three numbers separated by hyphens (e.g. 20-20-20, etc.); choose a fertilizer that correlates with your specific needs and stage of plant-growth. TIP: In their vegetative state, cannabis plants thrive primarily on “N” and “P”; and in their flowering-stage, “P” and “K” become more essential.


Summary of Micronutrients

Along with the basic macronutrients, plants also require micronutrients (or Trace-Elements) for sustained health and vigor. Some of these trace-elements are Calcium (“Ca”), Magnesium (“Mg”), Sulfur (“S”), Manganese (“Mn”), Boron (“B”), Zinc (“Zn”), and Copper (“Cu”). They are present in most, if not all, fertilizers, but in generally lesser portions than the major macronutrients.


Below is a list of the basic macronutrients and micronutrients/trace-elements, along with the horticultural-benefits and deficiency-symptoms of each:


Element Name: Nitrogen

Symbol: N

Atomic Number: 7

Atomic Mass: 14.00674

Horticultural-Benefit: Nitrogen promotes photosynthesis, and is directly responsible for the production of chlorophyll. It stimulates leaf and stem growth, and aids the overall size and vigor of the plants.

Deficiency-Symptoms: A nitrogen-deficiency can be recognized by reduced growth-rates and yellowing of the leaves (starting with the older/lower leaves). Colder soil-temperatures make nitrogen less-available to plants.


Element Name: Phosphorus

Symbol: P

Atomic Number: 15

Atomic Mass: 30.973762

Horticultural-Benefit: Phosphorus aids in the germination of seeds, and the growth of seedlings and roots. It is also vital the production of terpene resins, floral clusters, and necessary sugars and starches. Phosphorus also influences overall vigor.

Deficiency-Symptoms: A phosphorus-deficiency can be noted by reduced growth-rates and the production of smaller leaves which wilt/drop quickly. The leaves will be a dull, bluish-green, which will turn purplish or bronzy, and will have seared edges. Excessive “P”-levels can initiate a potassium-deficiency.


Element Name: Potassium

Symbol: K

Atomic Number: 19

Atomic Mass: 39.0983

Horticultural-Benefit: Potassium is important to your plants for metabolic changes during flowering, and the production of floral clusters. It also promotes general plant-vigor, disease-resistance, and sturdy growth.

Deficiency-Symptoms: A potassium-deficiency will retard growth-rates, and cause leaf-tips and -edges to become a scorched-brown color, with curled margins.


Element Name: Calcium

Symbol: Ca

Atomic Number: 20

Atomic Mass: 40.078

Horticultural-Benefit: Calcium is a key ingredient in cell-walls. It strengthens stems/stalks/branches, and also contributes to root-development/growth, primarily that of the rot-tips.

Deficiency-Symptoms: A calcium-deficiency can be recognized by distorted leaves, with hooked tips and curled margins. A deficiency would also result in under-developed roots, with weak root-tips.


Element Name: Magnesium

Symbol: Mg

Atomic Number: 12

Atomic Mass: 24.3050

Horticultural-Benefit: Magnesium is significant for chlorophyll-production and most enzyme reactions. It is responsible for healthy leaf-structure and -production, as well as sustaining healthy vein-structure in the leaves.

Deficiency-Symptoms: A magnesium-deficiency will affect various plant-species differently. The most common symptoms in cannabis plants are a vivid yellowing of the leaves, followed by leaves falling without withering, starting with the older/lower leaves. Excessive “Mg”-levels may initiate a calcium-deficiency.


Element Name: Sulfur

Symbol: S

Atomic Number: 16

Atomic Mass: 32.066

Horticultural-Benefit: Sulfur, being an ingredient in plant-protiens, is vital for protein-production, chlorophyll-production and vegetative growth.

Deficiency-Symptoms: A sulfur-deficiency can be identified by retarded growth-rates, accompanied by small, mutated leaves which are round in shape and roll upwards. Leaves will become stiff and brittle, and will fall off. A “S”-deficiency will also cause flowers on the top of kholas to die.


Element Name: Manganese

Symbol: Mn

Atomic Number: 25

Atomic Mass: 54.93805

Horticultural-Benefit: Manganese is a catalyst for many enzymes, and also aids photosynthesis/ chlorophyll-production.

Deficiency-Symptoms: A manganese-deficiency will have varying symptoms, depending on plant-species. The most common symptoms in cannabis plants are a yellowing of chloroplasts while stems remain relatively green. White or grey specks/spots may develop on the surfaces of leaves. As is usually the case, older/lower leaves will be affected first. Excessive “Mn”-levels may cause an “Fe”(iron)-deficiency, which will exhibit symptoms similar to a “Mn”-deficiency.


Element Name: Boron

Symbol: B

Atomic Number: 5

Atomic Mass: 10.811

Horticultural-Benefit: Boron aids the movement of necessary sugars, as well as reproduction, and water intake by cells. It also assists in the production of stems/stalks/branches, and keeps calcium in a soluble form. Furthermore, “B” contributes to leaf-production/-coloring/and -structure.
Deficiency-Symptoms: A boron-deficiency can be recognized by distorted and/or dead growing tips, hollow stems, and malformed fruits/flowers. Plants suffering from a “B”-deficiency frequently exhibit scorched, curled leaves, which are often spotted and discolored; young/vegetative leaves are affected first. Excessive “B”-levels may cause plants to exhibit symptoms similar to those of “Mg”-/”K”-deficiencies.


Element Name: Zinc

Symbol: Zn

Atomic Number: 30

Atomic Mass: 65.39

Horticultural-Benefit: Zinc-levels directly affect plant-size and -maturation , as it is necessary for the production of plant-proteins. Consequently, “Zn” is vital to the production of leaves and stalks/stems/branches.

Deficiency-Symptoms: A deficiency of zinc will result in the yellowing of chloroplasts between leaf-veins, usually with purplish spots of dead cells on leaf-surfaces; older/lower leaves are the first to show symptoms. Vegetative-growth is retarded and deformed, and floral-growth is reduced. Excessive “Zn”-levels can initiate an “Fe”(iron)-deficiency.


Element Name: Copper

Symbol: Cu

Atomic Number: 29

Atomic Mass: 63.546

Horticultural-Benefit: Copper is responsible for healthy, vigorous growth, and strengthens stalks/stem/branches. It is also necessary for the production of plant-proteins, and is crucial for reproduction.

Deficiency-Symptoms: A copper-deficiency can cause otherwise green leaves to adopt a bluish hue. Vegetative growth may fail to unfold, and may be yellow at the tips and edges."


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Re: Sick clones [Re: Maestro]
    #669737 - 05/08/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Hey Thanks for the info!! No need to delete :idhitit:

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OK here are the first 4 clones I ever took . It seen like they are way more sensitive than plants grown from seed.One clone i put in 12/12 soon afer it rooted buding great!!

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    #670719 - 05/14/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:greatjob: lookin good so far


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    #670724 - 05/14/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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:greatjob: lookin good so far




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    #670726 - 05/14/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

You guys are so kind!! Thanks  Im tring!!

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