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Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look?
    #653974 - 01/05/13 11:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)



I know its not mature yet but does it have a chance to produce anything worth smoking in your opinion?

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #653975 - 01/05/13 11:34 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

How many weeks into flowering are you? Three

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: Stoneth]
    #653977 - 01/05/13 11:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Its been on 12/12 for 5 weeks but I had a light leak issue. I know its stupid to ask seeing as they're immature but meh, I keep having doubts i guess.

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #653982 - 01/05/13 11:56 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Were the leaks fixed?
They can cause many issues, and slow down the process greatly.

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: Stoneth]
    #653986 - 01/06/13 12:05 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, got a tent now so its 100% definitely sealed. I didnt want to waste my time on something that wasnt going to grow properly but i guess ill have to wait and see.

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #654003 - 01/06/13 05:58 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Let me know how you like your tent bud. I thinking of getting one just to flower in

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #654007 - 01/06/13 07:53 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I personally think they look like they're on the right track. That new growth looks relatively tight. It seems like they've only really been budding for about 2 weeks.

Edited by NameInUse (01/06/13 10:16 PM)

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: NameInUse]
    #654010 - 01/06/13 09:09 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I have some experience but first time trying this.

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #654037 - 01/06/13 02:15 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

What he experienced was a plant that was just still vegging.  Now that it's in a tent and has a true 12/12 cycle it will start to flower. 


So xthrx, just consider that you started flowering when you got it in the tent.  Count the weeks from there.


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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #654084 - 01/06/13 10:19 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I just looked at some of the past threads and edited my previous post; I see what was happening now with the light leaks.

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: NameInUse]
    #654087 - 01/06/13 11:03 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Okay thanks, also the sets of water leaves are dying from the bottom upwards, anything I can do about this or? What are characteristics of underwatering? Some of my water leaves are very thin, still green but a bit rough ontop and the bottom water leaves [the ones directly growing from main stem] have wilted and fallen off, the top ones still seem fine.

Also, are the leaves that grow from the branches that grow from the stem, do they have the same function as the large water leaves that grow from the stem? Cause I've lost quite alot of leaf from the bottom

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #654089 - 01/06/13 11:27 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Water leaves?????  You mean shade leaves???


And if you are having leaf issues.  Get us some pics of the whole plant, and fill shit out.



Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What size containers are they planted in?
5. What is your soil mix?
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?
7. What is the pH of your water?
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
14. What is the pH of the soil?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
16. How much experience do you have growing?


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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #654093 - 01/06/13 11:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry, im an idiot, Yeah shade leaves.

1. Seed
2. 6ft
3. 6 weeks
4. A litre smaller than a generic bucket
5. http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/red/catalog/product/Kiwi-Potting-Mix-5L?SKU=492025
6. Tap water, dont have a PH thing to test my ph, its rain water collected in a tank, 1.5 litres at once then leaving to dry.
8. http://gurugardener.co.nz/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_12&products_id=15
9. No
10. 400 watt Halide tube
11. As close as I can get it without burning the plant
12. Tent, 90x50x160
13. Relatively hot temps 20-25 degrees outside, bit hotter in tent but not really, humidity is quite high, fan to circulate air is on at all times
14. Dont know sorry
15. I had small aphids on my smaller plant which I killed but nothing on the bigger one.
16. None

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #654095 - 01/07/13 12:45 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)


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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #654096 - 01/07/13 01:08 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

How often and how much are you feeding them? 


And what the hell is an average bucket?  You mean a 5 gallon pail?  That type of answer is really useless to us man.  We ask these questions because they are important, and really need detailed answers.



My guess is that they have been overferted, are in nute lock out, mixed with temperatures being too high.


Flush the shit out of em with pH balanced water.  You're doing so many things half assed here man, doing things the right way and doing your research really helps you not have to deal with a lot of the issues your going through man.


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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #654098 - 01/07/13 01:11 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

2.5 mls per litre, which is half what is recommended, going water - water - nutes - water - water - nutes

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #654099 - 01/07/13 01:25 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Gut reaction: That's a nute overdose. 
You've got eagle claw leaves which points to temps that are too high (not the case with your grow), pH problems (possible, and god only knows the quality of your rain water), or nute overdose. 

I'm leaning toward the last one b/c according to the manufacturer info, that potting soil has a 6 month time-release fertilizer (bad news all by itself), AND you've been adding nutes to the mix.

The other problem is that you have no idea what you're adding to the grow. Rain water is NOT pure; in fact I was trying to determine New Zealand rain water quality, and the first thing I found was a study regarding the presence of pathogenic microorganisms like e. coli and salmonella in the rain water.  You don't know the PPM or TDS, and you don't know the pH (if your area is prone to acidic rains, you're bottoming out the pH and you'd never know).  If you can't get a bead on the quality of your rain water, I suggest switching to RO water.


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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #654101 - 01/07/13 02:08 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Would store bought pure water be more beneficial?

Also thanks for the info regarding the soil, did not know that.. D;

Bummer, Wont be adding nutrients then.

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #654105 - 01/07/13 04:27 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

IT looks like your almost out of room in there?Too

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #654107 - 01/07/13 07:05 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, um those look underwatered and according to your watering schedule I'm sure of it. They should have water coming from the pots each time you water. You aren't even giving a half gallon to a (assuming) 5 gallon pot.

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: NameInUse]
    #654128 - 01/07/13 12:47 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Underwatering is probably the least of his problems, while it is contributing. 


Tap water would be fine, just not rain water.


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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #654150 - 01/07/13 02:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

You will find out if your going to grow , your going to need a ph tester. Im pour  but I splurged and got one it makes life so much easier.

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #654243 - 01/07/13 10:01 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

They do have water coming out the bottom onto the tray and they stay damp for quite a while, how much more should I be feeding them I thought i was overwatering D;

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #654244 - 01/07/13 10:03 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

to be honest i dont care how shit my buds are now, i already fucked that large plant up so whatever i get from it ill be happy with it, whether its nothing or something i learnt a shitload and thats what matters. ill def get a ph tester once the big one is out of the tent and I can trying grow something good

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #654264 - 01/08/13 03:13 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, you never answered how big your container actually is.


If it's dry and you water it, then the water can run right past the soil and out of the container, so that's not a good indicator at all, even though people recommend that all the time :callingbullshit:



I go by volume of the container.  So if I have a 5 gallon bucket of soil I always water a minimum of 3 gallons of water.  Give it one gallon, let it sit an hour, then repeat each hour.  This makes sure that the soil gets completely saturated.


Then wait for the soil to dry out before repeating.  But as was said before you have a soil that has time released fertilizer in it and have been adding fertilizer on top of that.


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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #654272 - 01/08/13 06:06 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: NameInUse]
    #654275 - 01/08/13 06:19 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/652175#652175




What this all about?

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #654276 - 01/08/13 06:32 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

It's one of the ops previous threads where he states he has a 10 liter pot and hawk tells the op to give it at leat 8 liters of water per watering.

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: NameInUse]
    #654281 - 01/08/13 07:46 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

ok!

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #654337 - 01/08/13 01:03 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

And apparently he just doesn't lsten.


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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #654367 - 01/08/13 03:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #654393 - 01/08/13 10:36 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Its actually about a 2gal pot, so 7 litre pot, I feed it about 3 litres per day, meh im trying. Ive stopped nutes which was obviously the issue.

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Re: Are my buds gonna be as shit as they look? [Re: xthrx]
    #654408 - 01/09/13 01:58 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

FLush, and flush hard!


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