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Started a stealth grow for mother and clones
    #653877 - 01/05/13 05:05 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I built a stealth cabinet for mothers and clones.
This is what I plan to do?
I got some seeds from one of my buddies he said it was some good weed we will find out.Germinated 5 seeds on 1-3-13.I want to grow 6 of these plants to about 6-10 inches or to what ever they need to be? So I can force them into flowering to determine there sex. Kill the males force back to vegetation, then keep the females as mothers and cut clones. I want to try this process.I want to get the best female clones for this spring.Here are some pics of the stealth box.





Here are some more pics there is no light coming out . Thats a job.




The last pic was one of my temp/hum. been long time since ger. any seeds!










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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #653879 - 01/05/13 05:24 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Kool.


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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #653888 - 01/05/13 05:40 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I hope I can get all that done by PLANTING TIME IN SPRING

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #653889 - 01/05/13 05:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

You should be able to


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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #653891 - 01/05/13 05:51 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

If this box turns out good? I have 3 sour diesel and 1 critical that I want to make mothers. So I will be building another stealth box

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #653932 - 01/05/13 08:20 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Build another bigger box for the mothers, well depending on how many clones you need to be taking and how often.


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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #653953 - 01/05/13 09:10 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Well Im going to take as many clones as I can ! How many I have room for. Plus how old do you think the plants should be before i force flowering?

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #653960 - 01/05/13 10:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I would just flower the first few clones rooted honestly.
Some plants don't like revegging, and can take a while to do so.


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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: Stoneth]
    #654001 - 01/06/13 05:45 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I need to sex them before i start cloning right? or should i just take clones and sex 50 of them later. The reason I wanted to make sure there fem before I plant them.They will be 10 miles in the woods and I wont be able to look at them alot?

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #654009 - 01/06/13 08:42 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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I want to grow 6 of these plants to about 6-10 inches or to what ever they need to be? So I can force them into flowering to determine there sex. Kill the males force back to vegetation, then keep the females as mothers and cut clones. I want to try this process.I want to get the best female clones for this spring.Here are some pics of the stealth box.






That should work well exactly how you describe.  There will, of course, be a period of slow/no growth while they adjust and re-adjust to the changes in light cycle.  But you have time to do it and I know many who use this same process to sex all their plants.  Some strains/individuals will be less willing to re-veg, and rarely some never do switch back from flower mode. If you only keep them in 12/12 long enough to see a couple pistils and then switch back I think you should be good to go.


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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: Angus]
    #654012 - 01/06/13 09:16 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Your picking up what Im laying down now!

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #654109 - 01/07/13 08:24 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't reveg. Just continue to veg them all until you have good size. Label them all, make clones right before moving to bloom. Label and record all the clones as to which parent they came from. Then once in bloom for about two weeks the males will show and you toss them and their offspring, keeping only the female clones. I would turn those into your mothers because you can make notes and keep the best of the second generation for mothers. Based on your spring timing that makes more sense and trust me on that getting to second generation on the clones will greatly improve your mothers because you will have more experience with their genetics. I hope this helps.

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: Bigpoppadopolous]
    #654110 - 01/07/13 09:28 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I might do that. Thanks bud.




The seeds opened up good ill keep you up dated. Remember this is just a run getting ready to grow my diesel and critical with no problem.



Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?seed
2. How old are your plants? tap root 1/3/13
3. How tall are your plants?inch
4. What size containers are they planted in?little
5. What is your soil mix?ffof
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?once so far
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?non
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? cfls (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")3 cfls each one 2700k plus i have 1 long fluorescent plant 510 lumens and 3100k
11. How close are your lights to the plants?close as i can
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?3 feet by 3 feet by 3 feet
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?up and down between70 85
14. What is the pH of the soil?good its new
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?no
16. How much experience do you have growing?2 grows

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #654459 - 01/09/13 03:55 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Well I  made some room for the mothers







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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #655320 - 01/17/13 09:27 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Up date 1/14/12
watered all the plants till it started to drip out of the
holes in the bottom.

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #655376 - 01/17/13 07:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

awesome, wish i had this much space to work with. those seeds are gonna love the FFOF :thumbup: good luck

i would use more cfls though, or just stick 2 125watters in there as opposed to all the small cfl bulbs, takes up too much space IMO

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: mystkspiral]
    #655415 - 01/18/13 04:03 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I only have 3 grows inside I mainly grew outside. Were do i get 125w cfls at? How much they run?

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #655435 - 01/18/13 11:10 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

im sure others have other sources, but i got mine from here within 3 days of ordering and i ordered on a friday night.

http://growace.com/advanced_search_result.html?keywords=compact+fluorescent&x=0&y=0

they have grow (veg) and bloom (flower) bulbs. 125-200W cfls. $40-70. great price i think.
then once you have the bulbs, you can go to your nearest hydroponics and get a Sun System Bright Wing reflector for $35. looks like this:

http://www.growwurks.com/bright-wing-reflector-fluorescent-grow-lamp-fixture.aspx

ive noticed hydro stores also have the bulbs, but theyre usually more expensive in store as ive noticed. shipping online and getting all the bulbs you need at once would save you a lot of money in shipping.

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: mystkspiral]
    #655494 - 01/18/13 07:20 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Hell yea thanks for the info!!! I think Im going to try them to flower with? I have a hps 400w to use but I want to try them.What do you think?

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #655495 - 01/18/13 07:23 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Use both:shocked:

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: Maestro]
    #655559 - 01/19/13 12:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Well here is an update.
Some look alittle fucked up?
Im thinking its one of these three things?

I dont know if they were on the edge of the light so they twisted looking for light?

I got a little nute. burn from the ff I really dont think thats it. but I think that happens to alot of seedlings

And the third thing was my temp.
At night it will go as low as 68 and n the day it gets 80 this is the highest and lowest they ever got.
It usually stays aat 70  to  75?







This is all them!!

Here are pics of one fucked and one not???





Here's a pic of of one of my lizards chillin while im on here!

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #656164 - 01/24/13 01:03 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

temps seem fine. if some are fine and some arent, maybe its bad genetics in the weird ones?

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: mystkspiral]
    #656251 - 01/25/13 10:38 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Thats what I was thinking too but there getting really nice

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #656722 - 01/28/13 07:04 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)



Here they are now. Plus look at these lights!!!!!!!!
65wcfl I never saw them this big I took all those little ones out.
I also (fim) the tops and started  the bend them down.

Edited by budgrowerwannabe (01/29/13 06:12 AM)

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #657725 - 02/05/13 01:39 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)





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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #657731 - 02/05/13 02:14 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Okay man, if you want to do grow logs, put them in the appropriate forum.  I'm more than happy to move this thread for you.


This forum is for questions and problems.


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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #657732 - 02/05/13 02:30 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Go ahead sorry.

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones (moved) [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #657733 - 02/05/13 02:33 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

This thread was moved from Marijuana Cultivation.

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There ya go buddy :happyweed:

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones (moved) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #657743 - 02/05/13 03:07 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Really didnt know this thread was in the wrong forum.

Anyway these plants are 5 weeks old? Think I should try and start taking clones now ? There were a couple that needed water so I started them on GROW BIG 1 tsp to 1 gallon of water.So I think I have a little nut burn we will see?

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones (moved) [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #657759 - 02/05/13 08:18 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I try to wait until the bottom branches are 3.5-4 inches and then I take them for clones because they dont really make it to the canopy anyway.

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones (moved) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #657761 - 02/05/13 08:27 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Thats what Ill do thanks!

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones (moved) [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #657845 - 02/06/13 06:34 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Update on stealth grw box. put three in there under 12/12





Well what you guys think??

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones (moved) [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #658791 - 02/12/13 07:16 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Well these plants been in 12/12 for a week so far and out of
the three two are males and one not showing sex yet?


Sorry not great pics but I see BALLS!!!:frown:
What do you guy think? The two big ones I think are male little one un-know.

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones (moved) [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #658955 - 02/15/13 02:57 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)



MALE Ikilled all the males I found so far. Hope I dont find more.

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #660528 - 02/27/13 07:23 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

as always...watchin this!  love outdoors.  wish I had space to do it!

good luck wannabe!

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones (moved) [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #660533 - 02/27/13 08:02 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Update on stealth grw box. put three in there under 12/12

<snip pictures>

Well what you guys think??




Nice.  I'm going to show this grow to a friend that should give it a try with his limited space. 

I have that thermometer/hygrometer.  Have you a name for that magnifier yet?

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    #660550 - 02/27/13 10:22 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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as always...watchin this!  love outdoors.  wish I had space to do it!

good luck wannabe!





Thanks bmac Im glad to see you back around .this place is dead . All those turned male ! Im going with (FEM) seeds for now non

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones (moved) [Re: zzzzzz]
    #660552 - 02/27/13 10:35 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

budgrowerwannabe said:
Update on stealth grw box. put three in there under 12/12

<snip pictures>

Well what you guys think??




Nice.  I'm going to show this grow to a friend that should give it a try with his limited space. 

I have that thermometer/hygrometer.  Have you a name for that magnifier yet?

Thanks.



I cant find the info but Ill look harder sorry man

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #660659 - 02/28/13 10:25 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

Just for the record, those cheap electronic hygrometers are notoriously inaccurate.  I'd do a salt saturation calibration.  I'm betting your actual readings are 10% higher than the LCD displays.

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    #660696 - 03/01/13 08:46 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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Just for the record, those cheap electronic hygrometers are notoriously inaccurate.  I'd do a salt saturation calibration.  I'm betting your actual readings are 10% higher than the LCD displays.




No shit Im going to look into that man. Thanks!

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    #661391 - 03/07/13 01:31 PM (11 years, 23 days ago)

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Quote:

zzzzzz said:
Just for the record, those cheap electronic hygrometers are notoriously inaccurate.  I'd do a salt saturation calibration.  I'm betting your actual readings are 10% higher than the LCD displays.




No shit Im going to look into that man. Thanks!




Very simple procedure.  Place milk or water jug cap full of salt and moisten until just saturated (no standing water).  Place hygrometer and wetted salt into zip lock with small amount of air trapped.  It should equilibrate to 75 percent humidity after half a day or so.  If your hygrometer levels off at 60% reading, you know to add 15% to all your readings, and so on .....

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones [Re: zzzzzz]
    #661449 - 03/08/13 07:28 AM (11 years, 23 days ago)

I think im going to buy a different one man .looking now

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    #661462 - 03/08/13 09:19 AM (11 years, 22 days ago)

Unless you spend a lot of money any inexpensive hygrometer is gonna be off unless you get really lucky.  We bought 5 or 6 of them and tested them all and returned the worst of them.

So don't waste your time shopping around.  Just calibrate what you have.

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Re: Started a stealth grow for mother and clones [Re: zzzzzz]
    #661468 - 03/08/13 09:31 AM (11 years, 22 days ago)

Ill try it I guess

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #661795 - 03/11/13 12:10 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

why do u not go 12-12 from seed?
u will determine sex MUCH faster than 18-6,then u could always put em bak in veg once they have shown ther sex?

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: ic3]
    #661819 - 03/11/13 05:14 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

I didnt think you could do that .

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #661982 - 03/12/13 02:51 PM (11 years, 18 days ago)

It might induce hermy or just stress the plant out. Also some strains (pheno's?) don't come back from flower

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: Maestro]
    #661994 - 03/12/13 03:49 PM (11 years, 18 days ago)

Well fuck it I have three seedlings just put them in 12/12

See what happens????

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #662286 - 03/14/13 05:56 AM (11 years, 17 days ago)

What's happenin', wannabe?  I can't seem to make heads or tails of your grow.  Did all your initial plants turn out to be boys?  You've started again?

Perhaps you should start another log then?  Have you been following my saga?  LOL!

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: zzzzzz]
    #662290 - 03/14/13 06:39 AM (11 years, 17 days ago)


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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #662291 - 03/14/13 06:49 AM (11 years, 17 days ago)

No wonder I never see your log.  This is your second log and the second time you posted it in the wrong forum!  LOL!  Is a moderator going to move it again?

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: zzzzzz]
    #662297 - 03/14/13 07:11 AM (11 years, 17 days ago)

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No wonder I never see your log.  This is your second log and the second time you posted it in the wrong forum!  LOL!  Is a moderator going to move it again?



no i just put the three in 12 /12 like some asked me to try earlier in this thread man!

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #662712 - 03/18/13 05:47 AM (11 years, 13 days ago)

so bud...how they doing?

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Re: Started a stealth growth for mother and clones [Re: greenjoe]
    #662722 - 03/18/13 07:16 AM (11 years, 13 days ago)

Im going to up date them for you on my 2013 grow log  go there check it out

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