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First Grow, week 4 FLOWERING, 250 watt hid+184 watt cfl in Soil. July 9, 2012
    #623794 - 05/21/12 04:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hey everyone!
This is my first grow. I bought a 32x32 in grow tent, 250 watt digital ballast, 4" fan+filter combo and a reflector which turned out to be way too big. It basically takes up the whole tent (lengthwise)
Im using Fox Farm soil and will be using fox farm 3 part nutrients. Also I have botanicare's liquid karma and cal-mag.
The strains are:
Honey B x2
Dutch Passion Blueberry x2
Violator Kush
Afgan Kush Ryder (auto)
La Diva (auto)

I poped so many because I didnt think they'd all survive, but they did and as far as I can tell theyre doing good :smile: heres day 18 pics:
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In order: tent, temperature, afgan k ryder, honey b, honey b, blueberry, blueberry, violator kush, family photo w/ some parsley & basil on thr right.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624128 - 05/23/12 09:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

starting to have some issues. First of all is it me or do all except one of the girls look really strechy? Secondly the upper leaf tips got burned overnight, but as u can see in the pic, the temps are fine, even though the light is only 12in away from the tops (also in a pic).
should I get more lights (couple cfls?) and pick the 250 watter up a few inches? Try to lower the temps? Start tieing them down?

Also, 1 plant has white blotches on the leafs. Anyone know what could cause that? This is the only one that stayed short, but with the same amount of leaf "sets". hope the picture is clear enouph, if not lmk.



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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624182 - 05/24/12 04:30 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

from the pics i think there just stretched out thats all

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #624195 - 05/24/12 05:04 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Get the light around 6 inches from the plant as long as the temps stay okay.  That should take care of the stretching.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #624202 - 05/24/12 05:32 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Get the light around 6 inches from the plant as long as the temps stay okay.  That should take care of the stretching.




Thanks. But theres some burned tips as is, even at 80 F. or are a couple burned tips worth avoiding streching?


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624203 - 05/24/12 05:33 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Scratch that, im just going to install an ac and lower the light.  Its About that time of year anyway.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624204 - 05/24/12 05:34 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I really didnt see any burnt tips can you take better pics of the burns

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #624205 - 05/24/12 05:38 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Will do. And wow, didnt expect anyone on here to be up this early. Only reason I am is that I got a chem final in 20 min lol


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624206 - 05/24/12 05:45 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yea like to see what burns your talking about and the reason in up is because i have a toothache and called off work

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #624244 - 05/24/12 01:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Burned tips is usually a sign of nute burn, not light burn.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #624261 - 05/24/12 03:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Im nnot feeding them yet though lol. Was actually going to ask if its about time to start. Heres a better pic


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624262 - 05/24/12 03:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Like hawk said thats not from the lights what kind of soil you using it might be to hot  but if that was mine i would wait and watch her before i start feeding I dont think its bad

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624263 - 05/24/12 03:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

It's probably the nutes that are already in the soil.  My blueberry and GDP get a little tip burn with FFOF.  Some strains are a little more sensitive than others.  Get the lights closer man.


No need to start feeding yet.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #624277 - 05/24/12 05:32 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks a lot guys!
And I realised I cantlower the light because it only covers a small area that way, even with the oversized reflector. I decided to add a few cfls (about 100watt's worth), but payday is saturday so they'll have to strech a little more :frown:


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624285 - 05/24/12 05:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Would superthrive help them recover from the burns? Now that I think about it they have been growing slower for a couple of days. Also I watered 4 days ago and the dirt is still moist.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624403 - 05/25/12 07:28 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

dont over water them if it has been 4 days so what there is no set schedule for watering  how i check most of mine is by weight  i water them really good then i pick them up when they need water there really lite plus i use a moisture meter

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #624947 - 05/28/12 07:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I put in 8 23 watt cfls, so hopefully they wont strech more.
The temps are 80-83F (IS THIS NORMAL?)

How long would you guys say I should keep vegging? I means its already getting cramped and I read that they get 3x bigger in flowering.

Also I decided to try lst. It's the violator kush (tallest one).



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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624948 - 05/28/12 08:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

what size grow tent is that?

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Pilze]
    #624950 - 05/28/12 08:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

32in x 32in, basically 7 sq ft.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624951 - 05/28/12 08:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

But two of them are autos (afgan kush ryder and la diva) that have 7-8 weeks to go. So theres really only the 5 big plants. Oh and theyre all femmed


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624952 - 05/28/12 08:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

lol im high as shit i missed the tent size in the title of this thread...

looks good man. i was very tempted to order some afghan kush ryder seeds a couple months ago, but decided against it. may order some in the future. cant wait to see how they turn out for you. good luck!

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Pilze]
    #624960 - 05/28/12 10:39 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks!
I got her as a freebie, and I gotta say...horrible. Maybe its my (absense of) skills but out of all the girls its the strechy-est and has the least amount of leaf sets :frown:

Is 80-83F good temps?


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #624967 - 05/28/12 10:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

id say 74-78. i dont like hitting 80, but it happens.

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Pilze]
    #625487 - 06/01/12 09:40 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I don't like letting mine get over 80 either

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #625577 - 06/01/12 09:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Day 30.

Switched to 18/6 lighting. Also checked the pH of the water that came out the bottom of the pot when I watered, 6-6.5 for all of them. New growth still has yellow tips.

Do i start feeding? Start using supplements?(i have liquid karma and cal-mag) If so should i start at half strength even though they are 30 days old?
Also, I'm thinking of transplanting them to 3gal pots tomorrow. Good idea? I'm still worried i might not have enough space later on.

I'm just really lost cause it's been a month, and i haven't added anything except water and liquid karma(once). I feel like i'm starving them but there are no deficiencies...yet. Am i being paranoid? I guess my question is, Do they look healthy for their age?

Also some rusty-yellow spots appeared on the tops of the afgan kush ryder auto, but that was yesterday and the newest leafs are fine. I'd like to know what it was though.

Oh and did i tie them down correctly?

Left to right, starting at the top: Violator Kush; the 2 Blueberry's; 2 Honey B; close-up of spots on the afgan k ryder; the auto's (la diva is the short one); Group shot.



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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #625582 - 06/01/12 09:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

if the leaf tips are yellow theyre good on nutes. i wouldnt feed them quite yet.

rusty yellow spots might be calcium or magnesium. so you might wanna hit it with some calmag.

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Pilze]
    #625585 - 06/01/12 09:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You should have been using Liquid Karma from the get go.  Start it out at 4mls per gallon and work your way up to ten over the next 3 waterings.  I use it at a minimum of every other watering, if not every one.

The reason you're not having to use nutrients yet is because they're already present in the soil.

If you want to LST you need to keep tying it down.  I'd also recommend topping the main growing shoot that you tied down as well.  That will encourage the side branches to take over.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #625966 - 06/04/12 11:01 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

whats is karma and what does that do to or for the plants? sorry  about questions when someone talks about something  i just want to be well informed

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    #626017 - 06/04/12 04:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Seaweed/kelp extract.  Acts as a bio-catalyst.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #626040 - 06/04/12 05:51 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

must be good for them can i  strat giving it to them now and how much is a good dose

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #626046 - 06/04/12 06:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yes you can start at any time.  Just start at about 5 mls per gallon and slowly work your way up to 10mls per gallon.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #626050 - 06/04/12 06:09 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

im guessing they sell it at the hydro store im going there tommorrow ill pick that up

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #626078 - 06/04/12 10:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Ok can someone please explain something to me? I didn't want to ask before because it's probably a stupid question but I can't stop thinking about it. If yellow tips are from the ferts in the soil, why did my plants start developing them After 2 weeks of growth? aren't young plants more sensitive? And shouldn't there be Less nutes in the soil later on, if anything?
I guess i'm missing something here, so if someone can educate me i'd really apreciate it.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #626098 - 06/05/12 12:39 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well there's more than one thing that can cause burnt tips.  It can be over fert, it could be that your pH is off.  Either way if your getting them I would flush with pH balanced water.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #626110 - 06/05/12 01:23 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks. Wow you're quick!

Just one more (sorry): do you recomend flushing, then transplanting; or transplanting and flushing  everything?


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #626111 - 06/05/12 01:25 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well if you're transplanting then there's no need to flush.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #626616 - 06/08/12 03:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Day 36 (5 weeks)

transplanted the 5 photo plants to 3 gal pots and gave a big watering (about a gallon each). I also re arranged the lights and added 2 more 23watt cfl's. Unfortunately, i had no gorilla tape left so i used electrical, and it fell on the biggest branch of the Violator Kush ;( Only a few leafs have burn spots but im guessing she's gonna recover for a while (especially since this was right after transplanting).

Should i swich to 12/12 immediately or wait untill they start growing vigorously again? It's already getting cramped, but on the other hand the 2 auto's will be done in a few weeks and it'll free up some space.

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Afgan Kush Ryder

La Diva

Violator Kush. You can see some burns if you look closely

Honey B #1

The short Blueberry

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #626617 - 06/08/12 03:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Give it a week to let the plants fill in the new dirt with roots.  Then switch to 12/12.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #626618 - 06/08/12 04:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

now them autos will flower under 24/7 right? or do you have to change the light cycle too

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    #626619 - 06/08/12 04:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

An auto will flower under 24.  That's why they're called auto-flower.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #626621 - 06/08/12 05:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Cant you see the little buds o.o? Suposidely, in 3-4 weeks they'll be done.

And ok ill wait to flower. But do I feed them now? Is it me or are they paling?


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #626624 - 06/08/12 05:13 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

They look fine to me.  I'd hold off on feeding.  There are nutrients in the new soil for them to feed on.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #626637 - 06/08/12 07:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #626646 - 06/08/12 08:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i was guessed that just wanted to here it from someone else

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #626655 - 06/08/12 10:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder how the autos will do with 12/12 lighting.
Im trying to get around an oz from the 2 autos combined and an oz each off the photo-period girls.
Is this realistic??

(so u dont have to go back to see) I have 250 watt hid, 4 23watt 5500K (daylight) cfls, 4 23watt 2700K (bright white) cfls (so 434 watt total) The area is 7x7. Also, im basically gonna harvest every strain at a different time, so there should be room. The Honey B takes 12-13 weeks to flower, violator kush is 10, and blueberry is 8-9. Wish I thought about this before  :willfred:


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #627213 - 06/12/12 12:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

^ Wrong question?

Anyway, the girls seem to have recovered from the transplanting and are finally showing signs of nute deff (I think). The stems (from the top down) are starting to turn purple/red and most of the first, one leaf, sets are yellowing a little.
The autos are already covered with trichs! i didn't expect that so soon. Supposedly, the afgan kush ryder has 3 weeks to go and la diva has 4, but it looks real skimpy for now-_-

I have a few questions about feeding.
1. Do i refer to the fox farm feeding chart?
2. Do i start with half or 1/4 dose? I can mix separate solutions for the sativa (they're the more sensitive ones right?)and indica dominant.
3. Do i even start feeding the sickly BB that still has burnt leaf tips?

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Tall BlueBerry

Honey B 2

Vialator Kush

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #627307 - 06/12/12 08:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Oh and they are posing in front of a lightproof intake I made for flowering. Works perfect, but takes up a lot of space.

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #627504 - 06/13/12 10:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I have a few questions about feeding.
1. Do i refer to the fox farm feeding chart?
2. Do i start with half or 1/4 dose? I can mix separate solutions for the sativa (they're the more sensitive ones right?)and indica dominant.
3. Do i even start feeding the sickly BB that still has burnt leaf tips?






About to swich to 12/12, can someone help me me out here please?


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #627660 - 06/14/12 04:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I have a few questions about feeding.
1. Do i refer to the fox farm feeding chart?
2. Do i start with half or 1/4 dose? I can mix separate solutions for the sativa (they're the more sensitive ones right?)and indica dominant.
3. Do i even start feeding the sickly BB that still has burnt leaf tips?






About to swich to 12/12, can someone help me me out here please?



i just go half with the ff to start with then move up.
as for the one with burnt tips if i saw new growth thats heathy i would feed but thats up to you.
what do you need to know about 12/12 put the lights on and make sure they dont get any light on there off cycle

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #627726 - 06/14/12 09:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks, but I had to feed earlier this morning. tho I pretty much did what u said:
8ml big bloom
4ml tiger bloom
2ml grow big
1/2ml superthrive
8ml liquid karma

Only fed 1 of the autos (afgan k ryder). The burned bb only got 1\3 strength of above


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #627841 - 06/15/12 05:59 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Thanks, but I had to feed earlier this morning. tho I pretty much did what u said:
8ml big bloom
4ml tiger bloom
2ml grow big
1/2ml superthrive
8ml liquid karma

Only fed 1 of the autos (afgan k ryder). The burned bb only got 1\3 strength of above



wow man thats alot i think im no expert but i think grow big is for veg and tiger and big bloom are for flowering im not sure if any one can tell me what stages to use each ff product it would be appreciated

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #627869 - 06/15/12 10:30 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yea grow big is for vegging, tiger bloom is for flower, big bloom is used for both but has very low npk.

I did week 1 flower (according to ff feeding chart) divided by 2. 1 tsp is 4.9 ml.

It seemed like a lot but I had no choice..


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #627877 - 06/15/12 11:35 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

why you have no choice

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #627879 - 06/15/12 11:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

According to most online sources this is what I should have done.
and thats the only source I got.

Was hoping i'd get a real person who used ff b4 to tell me what a good first dose is


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #627881 - 06/15/12 12:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i just feed mine by there feeding schedule

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #627893 - 06/15/12 02:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well then maybe i'm fine and am buggin out for no reason idk. They didnt look too happy after the feeding...or its all in my head >_< We'll find out soon enouph o.o

Btw what nutes do you use? And, just to be sure, you used the feeding schedule recomended by the brand right?


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #627903 - 06/15/12 05:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Well then maybe I'm fine and am buggin out for no reason idk. They didnt look too happy after the feeding...or its all in my head >_< We'll find out soon enouph o.o

Btw what nutes do you use? And, just to be sure, you used the feeding schedule recomended by the brand right?


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #627927 - 06/15/12 07:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Thtas a sick setup!
No wonder they're all lookin so healthy

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: sexycybe]
    #627938 - 06/15/12 08:22 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Well then maybe I'm fine and am buggin out for no reason idk. They didnt look too happy after the feeding...or its all in my head >_< We'll find out soon enouph o.o

Btw what nutes do you use? And, just to be sure, you used the feeding schedule recomended by the brand right?


i use ff. just look at my thread growing weed cost money. i fallow there schedule




Oooh. Lol alright then I should have no problems  :laugh:

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Thtas a sick setup!
No wonder they're all lookin so healthy




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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #628024 - 06/16/12 06:11 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

lets hope not

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #628141 - 06/17/12 12:20 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Day 1 Flowering:)

Vegged for a total of 44 days.
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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #628165 - 06/17/12 07:46 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

for your first grow there bad ass man  i cant wait to see how much smoke you get . let me ask you do you enjoy growing i know i do

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #628177 - 06/17/12 01:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks dude! 

Yeah, I love it. I can honestly see myself doing this for the rest of my days:rasta:

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    #628197 - 06/17/12 04:34 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

thats good to here man i post all kinds of shit on here man let me know what you thunk about it may you could teach me some shit too thats why im on here all the time

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #628220 - 06/17/12 05:45 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well I mean I camt really even say "nice plants" cause im not sure how a nice plant looks yet lol
But ill chime in w/ some hippie comment every now and then, from now on.

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
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Well I mean I camt really even say "nice plants" cause im not sure how a nice plant looks yet lol
But ill chime in w/ some hippie comment every now and then, from now on.

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #628735 - 06/21/12 11:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Day 5 Flowering

I somehow managed to fck up the afgan kush ryder :frown:
And i really had to water them (it was right b4 lights off that i noticed this) right then so i ran a gallon of water threw the akr and fed everyone:
8ml Tiger Bloom
5ml Liquid Karma
4ml CalMag
12ml Big Bloom

The ph of the runoff water was 6.5 for everyone. so i'm guessing this was cal deficiency?



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Day 5 Flowering

I somehow managed to fck up the afgan kush ryder :frown:
And i really had to water them (it was right b4 lights off that i noticed this) right then so i ran a gallon of water threw the akr and fed everyone:
8ml Tiger Bloom
5ml Liquid Karma
4ml CalMag
12ml Big Bloom

The ph of the runoff water was 6.5 for everyone. so I'm guessing this was cal deficiency?





i have been trying to look up cal deficiency in this grow bible and it dont look like cal to me  it could be maganese kinda looks like it .  im probably wrong . hopefully someone that really knows for sure will chime in then we both will know. thats why im always on here maybe get a cuple more pics up close so we can see better

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #628878 - 06/22/12 12:59 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Its even worse now.
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    #628880 - 06/22/12 01:05 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What size containers are they planted in?
5. What is your soil mix?
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
7. What is the pH of your water?
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
14. What is the pH of the soil?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #628891 - 06/22/12 01:48 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

O: Right.

1.Seed (auto)
2.7 weeks
3.around 12-15in
4.1 gal pots
5.FFOF
6.Distilled tap water ph'd to 6.5
7.^
8.Fox Farm 3 Part. Did 1/2 dose of recomended at first, but there were more yellow leafs so i gave them the full dose this week (2tsp tiger, tbsp Big Bloom). Also added a full dose of calmag and 1/2 strength Liquid Karma. These were the only 2 feedings.
9.No
10. 250watt hps+ 8x 23watt cfl (4 warm, 4 cool), for a total of 434 watts.
11. Pics are on this page, will take more in a little bit.
12.~7 (32in x 32in)
13. 30-60%, 70F - lights off; around 80 - lights on.
14.6.5, but i don't have a soil tester, i just measured the runoff water.
15.No, checked pretty well.
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    #628892 - 06/22/12 01:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Looks to me like you've been burning them with too much nutes


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    #628985 - 06/22/12 02:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

This started b4 the full (second feeding)
Also, they were all fed the same, but this is the only one thats doing this.


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    #628986 - 06/22/12 03:06 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Still over feeding.  Some strains/phenos are more sensitive.


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    #628993 - 06/22/12 03:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, I see. Thanks, will flush w/ 3 gallons (correct me if im wrong?) ASAP.

And yeah, it was a weak pheno from the start. It started flowering with 2 leaf sets at 8in. The La Diva had 6 sets and some branching, and it was 6in tall


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3 times the amount of of water to soil ratio.


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Oh, I see. Thanks, will flush w/ 3 gallons (correct me if im wrong?) ASAP.

And yeah, it was a weak pheno from the start. It started flowering with 2 leaf sets at 8in. The La Diva had 6 sets and some branching, and it was 6in tall


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    #629038 - 06/22/12 07:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Autoflowers decide for themselves when they want to flower lol.

Not elaborating because im guessing you just forgot theyre autos. If not lmk, this is actually something that i've been reading up on lately. Got hung up on the idea of only growing autos..or why people don't do it


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    #629042 - 06/22/12 08:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I forgot they were autos. I just ordered one  going to try it plus im getting ready to order  a bunch of them so they all flower at the same time

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    #629048 - 06/22/12 09:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

When I saw (online) that la diva took 7 weeks to harvest from seed, I was positive ill be doing an all auto grow next. But then I looked at actual grows, and they all take 10-12 weeks to finish in soil.. My la diva is over 7 weeks old and never had any problems but still far from harvest (only a couple of hairs turned red).

Anyway, can someone tell me from expirience how long it takes for a burned plant to recover? Estimate?


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    #629093 - 06/23/12 08:56 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Anyway, can someone tell me from expirience how long it takes for a burned plant to recover? Estimate?




How burnt? physically or nutes?

A plant that has burnt 1 or 2 leaves due to your light being too close will recover in just 2-3 days in my experience. I can not answer that question if you are talking nute burn. Too many varieables

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: viper33802]
    #629096 - 06/23/12 10:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Anyway, can someone tell me from expirience how long it takes for a burned plant to recover? Estimate?




How burnt? physically or nutes?

A plant that has burnt 1 or 2 leaves due to your light being too close will recover in just 2-3 days in my experience. I can not answer that question if you are talking nute burn. Too many varieables



I thought fucked up leaves dont regenerate? just new plant growth

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #629102 - 06/23/12 12:06 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

correct, the leaves will not repair/heal. the plant will just move on using what good foliage is left. I just meant the upward growth slows down after the burn for a few days.

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    #629104 - 06/23/12 12:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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correct, the leaves will not repair/heal. the plant will just move on using what good foliage is left. I just meant the upward growth slows down after the burn for a few days.



ok I didnt know it slowed the growth down. learning man learning !!!!

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #629285 - 06/25/12 01:35 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Day 9 Flowering. Day 53 total


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Tall BB


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #629501 - 06/26/12 06:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Damn you have some sweet plants going .Really nice bud

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #629879 - 06/29/12 06:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Day 14 Flowering

Fed with:
10ml tiger bloom
10ml big bloom
8ml Liquid Karma

Pretty sure they're done stretching. tell me what you think :rastamon:

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Tall BB. I only recently realized that when i topped this one 3 tops came out instead of 2, any reason for this?


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #630016 - 07/01/12 09:16 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Now did you take any clones before you started flowering

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #630300 - 07/03/12 04:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I think i got a serious problem. Tried attaching the carbon filter yesterday (cause they are really starting to smell :laugh:) and it just kinda blocked off the fan :frown: There was barely a breeze coming out of the sides of the filter. This was sold as a fan+filter combo but it was cheap (i think 120$ish).

I really don't want to get another fan (only need 1), but if i have to i will. Is there a way to check if the air is getting exchanged enough times? Except finding dead plants when the lights turn on?


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #630308 - 07/03/12 05:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You should be pulling through the filter, not pushing.  Could be your issue.  Mind throwing up a link so we know what you're dealing with?


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #630531 - 07/04/12 07:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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You should be pulling through the filter, not pushing.  Could be your issue.  Mind throwing up a link so we know what you're dealing with?



I hope you fixed that filter by now?

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #630652 - 07/05/12 08:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Now did you take any clones before you started flowering




Could have swore I answered this b4.. My bad man I must have forgot to hit submit or something

No I didnt take clones, but (except the 2 autos) I have more seeds of all the strains. i'd love to try cloning but I only have one grow space, so thats not possible while im flowering.


And yeah my "sirious problem" was exactly that >.<
Theres still very little flow so il prolly have to attach another fan somewhere along the duct so theres no positive pressure (or is it bs that positive pressure is bad in a tent?).
See, I have a waaay oversized reflector, and only one fan exhausts and cools the light, so theres no way to attach the filter to the fan except by attaching it to the reflector. So ill have to get a 6" to 4in duct reduc. and position the filter right above the light, adding a 180° turn to the duct.


anyone wanna see updated pics? Or should I just wait till it gets all frosty (it kiinda is but not really)


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #630723 - 07/06/12 01:40 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I like pics!!!

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #630796 - 07/07/12 05:25 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Update:) day 21 flowering (65 days total)

Decided to take out the afgan kush ryder to give the big girls some more space, im probably not getting much off of it anyway and the trichs look milky. Ill keep it in a closet for a couple days before chopping, maybe it'll purp a little? Also took a sample nug from the middle of the plant, will report in a couple hours.



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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #630797 - 07/07/12 05:28 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)



In order: La diva, Afgan k ryder, afgan k ryder close up. And some group pics along with the new vent system. Sorry, gotta do this from my phone for now.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #630801 - 07/07/12 07:42 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hell yea man It looks real nice IF you dont mind how much do you think you have in your hole setup? its nice man!!

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #630830 - 07/07/12 03:26 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks!
Do youmean how much I spent on it or how much yield I think ill get?
Spent about 550$ so far, hope to get an oz per plant and maybe an oz off the 2 autos.

So I dried that afgan kush ryder nugget in the oven. Went from 1.9 wet to .6 cracker dry. Really rouph on the inhale and tastes like grass(hope a proper drying and cure will take care of that).
The buzz came on verry quickly, couldn't tell if it was more of a head or a body high, seemed like a mix. Maybe it's all in my head, but I felt really high for longer then I usually do :smile:


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    #630852 - 07/07/12 07:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Thanks!
Do youmean how much I spent on it or how much yield I think ill get?
Spent about 550$ so far, hope to get an oz per plant and maybe an oz off the 2 autos.

So I dried that afgan kush ryder nugget in the oven. Went from 1.9 wet to .6 cracker dry. Really rouph on the inhale and tastes like grass(hope a proper drying and cure will take care of that).
The buzz came on verry quickly, couldn't tell if it was more of a head or a body high, seemed like a mix. Maybe it's all in my head, but I felt really high for longer then I usually do :smile:



Were did you get that filter and fan set up at ? For so cheap? THats what i need

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #630858 - 07/07/12 08:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-x-18-CARBON-AIR-FILTER-PRO-COMBO-4-INCH-INLINE-FAN-EXHAUST-F017-/290709088478?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43af9ca8de
This is the one i have, but they go as low as 100$
I got all my equip. from eBay, it's sketchy at first, but they have like 99% good reviews and a year warranty.


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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #630860 - 07/07/12 08:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks man Im going to order the same one

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    #631027 - 07/09/12 04:07 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So do I have N deff? Maybe some other problem?
Or is it normal?

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Re: First Grow, week 3. 250 watt hid in a 32 x 32in tent. Soil [Re: Maestro]
    #631734 - 07/15/12 08:37 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hey man whats up did you figure out if you had nute. problems?
It sucks tiring to get a answer an this site its slow as hell .IM on here all the time reading everything

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    #631978 - 07/18/12 02:47 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Idk, it keeps getting worse even though I upped the nutes. I can't be sure cause I'm overseas ( roommate is doing the watering). That's why I haven't been on here too

Maybe he's not doing what I'm telling him... Then again, Im not even sure it was a deficiency to begin with


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    #632225 - 07/22/12 05:02 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Have him take some pics so we can try and help

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    #634115 - 08/07/12 11:47 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If we wanted to detour into a tech nerd electronics discussion, we could spend a long time explaining high frequency sawtooth waves, but it’s enough to know that high frequency sawtooth wave digital ballasts are bad for your expensive HID bulbs, and that the old school digital ballasts have built-in inefficiencies that waste electricity and plant potential.

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    #634188 - 08/08/12 07:34 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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If we wanted to detour into a tech nerd electronics discussion, we could spend a long time explaining high frequency sawtooth waves, but it’s enough to know that high frequency sawtooth wave digital ballasts are bad for your expensive HID bulbs, and that the old school digital ballasts have built-in inefficiencies that waste electricity and plant potential.





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    #634195 - 08/08/12 10:01 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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If we wanted to detour into a tech nerd electronics discussion, we could spend a long time explaining high frequency sawtooth waves, but it’s enough to know that high frequency sawtooth wave digital ballasts are bad for your expensive HID bulbs, and that the old school digital ballasts have built-in inefficiencies that waste electricity and plant potential.





I want to detour into a tech nerd electronics discussion.


If you really want electronics discussion then check this out http://bigbudsmag.com/grow/article/marijuana-digital-ballast-hid-grow-light

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    #634401 - 08/10/12 09:23 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

interesting, though it doesn't really go in detail about the technology.

idk how to tell a sawtooth wave ballast from a square wave ballast though. Manufacturers don't seem to specify...at least on e-bay =d


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    #634407 - 08/10/12 10:12 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Agree, it is not showing in detail about the technology. Even i don't how to tell sawtooth wave ballast from a square wave ballast too but we can try at least.

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    #635514 - 08/27/12 08:55 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

So my roommate fucked everything up. I didn't even know burns can get that bad. There was absolutely no healthy leafs left, so I chopped them all down. Weight was

Big bb 34g
Short bb 22g
Honey b #2 29g
Honey b #1 30 g
Violator kush 28g

153 g total

mostly popcorn nugs.. Theyre long, but empty lol.

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    #635516 - 08/27/12 09:12 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Man, that sucks that he didn't keep em up well. But at least you got a decent return. 5 and a half ounces is pretty decent for whatcha got there, IMO


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