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 Manitou
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 Re: Drugs Inc.  [Re: Manitou]
#616696 - 04/07/12 03:11 AM (12 years, 15 days ago) |
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There are so fucking retarded scenes ... goddamn douchebag pigs hunting down outdoor growers, also a fuckin cop raid, with like 20 pigs all in body armor, busting a family house, ruining their family, for like 14 grams of weed
Moron pigs
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Re: Drugs Inc. [Re: Manitou]
#616706 - 04/07/12 08:05 AM (12 years, 15 days ago) |
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I take shrooms all the time to abort my migraines. Generally it's at least once a week but often I will take them more. Taking shrooms all the time gets old fast but 4 or so hours of being high beats being in pain for as long as 3 days which would ruin my chances of studying, working and having a social life. Another good thing is that shrooms aren't addictive, they don't ruin the liver, they work better and it's near impossible to overdose on them.
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Re: Drugs Inc. [Re: shanker]
#616769 - 04/07/12 06:50 PM (12 years, 14 days ago) |
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Yeah I've seen the one on hallucinogens, and dunno if you take a lot, but there's a guy with cluster headaches (not sure if it that), but he takes shrooms once per 3 month, but I think he takes a really massive dose. Maybe if you augment the dose it will augment the length of the effects for the headaches
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Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
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Re: Drugs Inc. [Re: Manitou]
#616770 - 04/07/12 06:57 PM (12 years, 14 days ago) |
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There has been a lot of official research on Psilocybin and cluster migraines. Forget what documentary I was seeing it on. But there is progress being made to get appropriate dosages down. Of course they're using pure extracted psilocybin.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Steve Buscemi
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You know I never get headaches, maybe my teenage shaman years made me immune.
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Manitou
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I never get headaches neither man, maybe my head is too full of psylocybin?
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Re: Drugs Inc. [Re: Manitou]
#616773 - 04/07/12 07:12 PM (12 years, 14 days ago) |
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I get em. Not often, though. I had plenty of mushies in my day.
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All those years I just thought I was laughing at wood grain little did I know I was curing myself of future headaches.
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Not quite guys. Cluster migraines are not the same as what a person would call a regular headache.
Although if I did have a regular headache I bet taking a dose may help 
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Manitou
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Well I knew Clunter migraines are not the same as headaches, just wasnt sure of the name of the condition
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Re: Drugs Inc. [Re: Manitou]
#616853 - 04/08/12 12:26 AM (12 years, 14 days ago) |
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Cluster headaches are different to migraines. They're both really horrible though although apparently cluster headaches are the worst which would explain the nickname 'suicide headaches'. Having migraines all the time can make you suicidal too. I know a lady through some forums who gets cluster headaches and migraines which would be horrible.
Cluster headache sufferers seem to be able to get away with taking very small doses of psychedelics to abort their headaches and keep them away. Some sufferers seem to be able to go a long time without getting a cluster headache after taking psychedelics but for others it might only be a week or so.
When I get a migraine I take about 2 grams of shrooms to abort it. I wish I could get pure psilocybin to inject because when I was reading about a trial of the chemical for something else the article stated that when injected the high only lasts about 30 minutes which would be awesome because then I could get back work etc. It would also kick in real fast too.
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Re: Drugs Inc. [Re: shanker]
#616856 - 04/08/12 12:52 AM (12 years, 14 days ago) |
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Thanks for making it clear, I was really talking about Cluster Headaches then, I believe that when it strikes, there is sometimes a way to abort it with oxygen masks thangs, but it does not always works.
For migraines, I had no idea it would help with it, and to me, injecting psylocybin is sketch, I wouldn't do it. But I also wouldn't inject anythang so I guess thats pretty normal from me. I heard people talking about injecting DMT...
But I also understand the benefits it could bring, doing shrooms every week is quite a lot, I have done shrooms everyday for 2 weeks when I was 17... and man it wasn't fun at all at the end ... I will never do that again
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Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
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J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
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Re: Drugs Inc. [Re: Manitou]
#616882 - 04/08/12 09:04 AM (12 years, 13 days ago) |
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Yeah, I don't like the idea of injecting things (unless it's a doctor or a nurse doing it) but if I could get something that was made in a clean lab and it was a standard dose then I'd be happy to take it if it improved my current situation. I wouldn't inject dirty street drugs though.
The lady who gets cluster headaches also uses rivea corymbosa seeds to abort her cluster headaches. She soaks them in water and then drinks the water. You could also use HBWR seeds too. I wish I could get away with taking sub hallucinogenic doses of shrooms though like cluster headache sufferers can because then my day would not be interrupted.
Sometimes I might take shrooms 3 or 4 times a week but if you do it a lot in a short space of time then your tolerance builds up quickly so you don't get very high or you might not even get high at all but it will still abort a migraine which is all I want. It's not the best situation but I have to do the best with what I got. I will use caffeine and aspirin first but many times that won't work so I need to use shrooms.
I've tried legal drugs to try to prevent or abort migraines but a couple almost killed me and those that didn't still had nasty side effects. I was prescribed Topamax off label for the prevention of migraines but it made me suicidal and I almost hanged myself one night. It can also make your skin separate from your body which means death. I was also given the non psychedelic tryptamine Sumatriptan but that almost killed me from severe cardiac reactions and I felt as if I was being crushed and strangled from the severe tightness. I was also given anti depressants which blurred my vision, killed my sex drive, gave me cotton mouth, made me gain weight and also made me really angry (they made me want to hurt people which scared me). The withdrawal effects from anti depressants were fucking horrible too. You can't concentrate properly and you get 'brain zaps' which feels like you're being given shocks of electricity through your head all the time. There are others I could try but I could get side effects such as gangrene or fibrosis of my organs which means renal failure or deep vein thrombosis.
The thing that makes me angry is that we're turned into criminals for treating our pain with something that actually works and has less side effects than the legal drugs that they're happy to dish out. I did what I thought was the 'right' thing by going to see doctors but many don't take migraines seriously and they think many of us are doctor shopping junkies so they tell us that there's nothing they can do. It's ridiculous that I could get prescriptions for hardcore opiates that are addictive, easy to overdose on and won't provide the greatest relief for my pain (they can also cause rebound headaches) but I'm not allowed to have a non addictive substance that works and is near impossible to overdose on.
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Re: Drugs Inc. [Re: shanker]
#617050 - 04/09/12 04:09 AM (12 years, 13 days ago) |
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posting for further reference.
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the hallucinogens one makes me lol and also makes me question the authority of people's opinion on the drugs... as they are impotent, and frankly stupid.
but it is hilarious...
" the final trip... death." *string melody* ahhh
but just two minutes earlier, "the disturbing trip that the guy takes comfortably in his bed is too much for him, but he needs to take it for his cluster headaches!"
oy...  so what is it, superhell or a enlightening experience.
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Quote:
eNtranceAsexit said:
the hallucinogens one makes me lol and also makes me question the authority of people's opinion on the drugs... as they are impotent, and frankly stupid.
but it is hilarious...
" the final trip... death." *string melody* ahhh
but just two minutes earlier, "the disturbing trip that the guy takes comfortably in his bed is too much for him, but he needs to take it for his cluster headaches!"
oy... so what is it, superhell or a enlightening experience.
Hahaha nice one man, I didn't really focus on that, but it is fuckin ridiculous
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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
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Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
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Re: Drugs Inc. [Re: Manitou]
#618236 - 04/14/12 06:46 PM (12 years, 7 days ago) |
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its sad how people have all this faith in modern meds that have been hear for what a hundred years and then talk skepticaL about natural meds that been hear and used for 50,000 years plus,this makes me ? the athority of peoples opinion that have not had the expirence ,because this kind of thinking is impotent and not whole ,and yes it is good to ? things but come on we can do better!
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Re: Drugs Inc. [Re: dmtcorey]
#618239 - 04/14/12 07:25 PM (12 years, 7 days ago) |
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Quote:
dmtcorey said:
its sad how people have all this faith in modern meds that have been hear for what a hundred years and then talk skepticaL about natural meds that been hear and used for 50,000 years plus,this makes me ? the athority of peoples opinion that have not had the expirence ,because this kind of thinking is impotent and not whole ,and yes it is good to ? things but come on we can do better!
Thats mostly because science took over the place, scientists will say that medicine is the only good one, and the only real one, the only truth, but if they are dumb enough to believe that, no wonders they won't even try what nature made for them. Pretty much all the cultures have a great knowledge of plants in their environment, just look at a shaman in amazonian forests that went in the jungle to live by himself for about 2-3 years, forcing him to learn the environment, also making his knowledge of the plants surrounding him. I have rarely seen medicine take advantage of these people's knowledge, which are as good, true, and they also work just fine...
Often knowledge like that will be laughed at by scientist, but they often forget that these people are not dumb, and so are their beliefs, they have been using the nature around them for a shitload of years, why? Because it fuckin works.
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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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