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 Blackd0ve420
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 Getting Nervous.. 
#611538 - 03/04/12 06:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I germinated my seeds for 48 hours until I saw the seeds pop and the taproots peaking out. After that I planted very shallowly in a pot of organic top soil with a small (Maybe about 1/8th) amount of vermiculite and a small handful of perlite.
I been misting the pots pretty much daily (Not drenching them but just trying to keep the soil moist). I took the temp/humid levels just now and it is at 85 degrees +/- with a 70% humidity level.
I am sure the temp is a little bit high, would that be enough to kill any possible sprouts? This is my first grow so I am trying to understand what/if anything I am doing needs to be tweaked.
Here's a pic of my setup, I know it's ghetto but it's the best I can arrange at the moment. *P.S. I put a layer of plastic wrap today after misting over the pots to raise humidity*
This was 4 days ago.
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budgrowerwannabe
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I just started them 4 days ago.
these are the ones i started a month ago
This is my first grow indoors but i will help as much as i can
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 Hawksresurrection
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Give em time. Stop misting all the time. Keep that saran wrap on and give em a little fresh air once or twice a day.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Blackd0ve420
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K will do. They haven't even broken the surface like that. I think the tap root is still just crawling out..I'll slow down on misting now that I have the saran wrap on there.
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Blackd0ve420
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Took your advice and it looks like they're both sprouting now! One of them you can definitely see the beginnings of green and the other the seed has risen to the top soil (Though hasn't completely split apart yet.)
I guess patience is key here haha. I just got a little edgy because I read that at about 7 days it's unlikely that they will sprout if they haven't already. I felt like a worried daddy haha.
Edited by Blackd0ve420 (03/05/12 02:42 PM)
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Hawksresurrection
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Glad to hear the good news man. Keep us updated on your grow!
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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budgrowerwannabe
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just put my new seeds under two cfls it just takes time. i dont do much to them
Edited by budgrowerwannabe (03/07/12 08:22 PM)
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Blackd0ve420
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Gotcha, my nerves are eased now. I posted an update here with pics
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/608989/fpart/2
Like I say there one is starting to open its leaves (Though it's closer to the ground) and the other has a strong sturdy stem about an inch above the ground but the seed hasn't opened up yet. Just want my babies to get a good start  . Since I have limited room for height I am going to loosely tie the tops down together, they're an autoflowering Runderalis strain so they shouldn't get too big supposedly. I'll keep updating every week at that link.
Edit: How long should I continue to keep the saran wrap on though?
Edited by Blackd0ve420 (03/08/12 11:27 AM)
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budgrowerwannabe
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I took the lid off mine when i got green leaf opened
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Blackd0ve420
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Unfortunate news, hardly any progress on the small sprout and the one that was doing well with is drooping all the way to the ground. After looking on the site I think it's heat stress..So i turned off one of my lights to try and get temps in the 70's and keep it there. So sacrificing light exposure for cooler temperatures. Also misted some water and put some fresh saran wrap on....i'll keep you posted, I may have to restart though...
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Hawksresurrection
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What did the temps get up to?
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Blackd0ve420
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Mid to high 80's, 85 degrees on average though. I had the fans on high and two 40 watt lights on. The lights are about 1 foot and inches away.
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Hawksresurrection
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That really shouldn't have caused your seedlings to die. There has to be a problem else where.
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Blackd0ve420
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Taking pictures to show you.
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Blackd0ve420
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seed 1 (hard to see it's dead center inbetween the two perlite pieces.
seed 2 (lying on the ground)
Temp 79 and dropping with humidity in the 40's. Sorry for the shitty photos but was with phone camera and I am in a rush tonight.
Edited by Blackd0ve420 (03/10/12 07:07 PM)
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Hawksresurrection
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What kind of soil are they in?
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Blackd0ve420
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Organic top soil.
Also noting I added a small amount of vermiculite/perlite
Edited by Blackd0ve420 (03/10/12 07:11 PM)
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Hawksresurrection
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That doesn't really help me man. Brand, NPK content??
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Blackd0ve420
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Edited by Blackd0ve420 (03/10/12 07:16 PM)
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Hawksresurrection
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Hmm...doesn't really say what's in it.
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Hawksresurrection
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Yeah I don't see anything in those photos man
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Blackd0ve420
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It's just basically cheap dirt =/, I was told to stay away from Miracle Grow and things with additives so I saw organic and got it...Even hypothetically if it's bad quality it wouldn't kill them this early would it?
Edit: I'll put better quality ones up tomorrow.
Edited by Blackd0ve420 (03/10/12 07:20 PM)
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Hawksresurrection
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It's not a matter of quality but of how much in the way of nutrient levels it has. If for some reason it has a crap load of nutrients it could kill it pretty quick.
Not sure that's the problem though
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Blackd0ve420
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Gr...I was getting the organic with the impression it didn't have loads of additives like that...I remember when I used my dark pasture soil my seeds grew so fast.
Meh...for now I am letting them chill in 70 temperatures for the night with the one light...We'll see in the morning..
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Hawksresurrection
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Organic doesn't mean that the soil doesn't have nutrients. Just that the nutrients it has come from organic sources. That may not even be your problem though so we can't blame it on that yet.
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Blackd0ve420
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Well one seed is dead. There's one guy left that looks a little better after I gave him lots of water and put the light closer, he's got a big root but the seed hasn't popped open its leaves yet...we'll see.
If there is some one that wants to work with me online here PM me please, help is appreciated. I've gotten wonderful sprouts before using my dark rich pasture soil. I am planning on using the paper towel/plastic bag germination method(also germinate longer), microwave sterilizing some of my pasture dirt, putting them in a small cup until I've got some leafy sprouts then cut the cup open into a medium size pot.
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Blackd0ve420
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think I know why though and I feel like an idiot lawl. I had 2 40 watt Incandescent bulbs instead of CFL's...yeah...face palm...anyways. I did a take two.
I dropped another seed in a cup of water. It dropped to the bottom same day and the seed popped the next day. I planted it in a small Styrofoam cup about half full with some of my rich pasture soil which I microwave sterilized (It was nice and pitch black), I then added some water into it and mixed it up with my hands until it was nice and fluffy. I planted it about as deep as the size of my index finger nail. Covered it lightly (not packed) with soil. Then watered. I covered the cup with saran wrap and put it under 2 26 watt CFL's (Total lumens come out to about 3400). Temperature is consistent at 80-81 degrees. I been only lightly misting to keep humidity up and soil lightly damp.
I planted that one 3 days ago...I really hope I see it sprout because I'll start pulling my hair out if I f up this batch too. I also wrapped another seed in a damp paper towel and then put it in a ziplock bag..giving that germination method a shot too just in case...
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budgrowerwannabe
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Quote:
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think I know why though and I feel like an idiot lawl. I had 2 40 watt Incandescent bulbs instead of CFL's...yeah...face palm...anyways. I did a take two.
I dropped another seed in a cup of water. It dropped to the bottom same day and the seed popped the next day. I planted it in a small Styrofoam cup about half full with some of my rich pasture soil which I microwave sterilized (It was nice and pitch black), I then added some water into it and mixed it up with my hands until it was nice and fluffy. I planted it about as deep as the size of my index finger nail. Covered it lightly (not packed) with soil. Then watered. I covered the cup with saran wrap and put it under 2 26 watt CFL's (Total lumens come out to about 3400). Temperature is consistent at 80-81 degrees. I been only lightly misting to keep humidity up and soil lightly damp.
I planted that one 3 days ago...I really hope I see it sprout because I'll start pulling my hair out if I f up this batch too. I also wrapped another seed in a damp paper towel and then put it in a ziplock bag..giving that germination method a shot too just in case...
I used the paper towels method works well for me 9 out of ever 10 germ.
for me. I have a question What is the difference between Incandescent and cfl's
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Blackd0ve420
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It'll be my first time trying it. I've used the cup method so well in that past which is why I am getting so frustrated! They germinate just find it's just that period of planting to sprouting that for some reason I am stuck at...
Somewhere on the main site it says to stay away from incandescent. I am not sure exactly but I do know that they do not nearly provide the right kind of light that it needs. It was on the warm end of the light spectrum+one 40 watt incandescent gives out about 400 lumens while 1 26 watt cfl bulb gives out about 1700. So even with my two 40 watt incandescent I was only getting about half the lumens of one cfl. I believe it says 2000 lumens is the bare minimum requirement though 3000 is optimal.
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budgrowerwannabe
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Quote:
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It'll be my first time trying it. I've used the cup method so well in that past which is why I am getting so frustrated! They germinate just find it's just that period of planting to sprouting that for some reason I am stuck at...
Somewhere on the main site it says to stay away from incandescent. I am not sure exactly but I do know that they do not nearly provide the right kind of light that it needs. It was on the warm end of the light spectrum+one 40 watt incandescent gives out about 400 lumens while 1 26 watt cfl bulb gives out about 1700. So even with my two 40 watt incandescent I was only getting about half the lumens of one cfl. I believe it says 2000 lumens is the bare minimum requirement though 3000 is optimal.
ok thanks hope your seed germ fast for you
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Blackd0ve420
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I hope so too lol..nothing yet i'll post when it does
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budgrowerwannabe
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I will be looking forward seeing your grow check out mine let me know what you think
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Blackd0ve420
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Quote:
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I used the paper towels method works well for me 9 out of ever 10 germ.
for me.
You'll get a chuckle out of this, so I planted a seed earlier today that I had germinated using the paper towel method (Let it soak for 48 hours, the tap root was about half centimeter out +/-), Planted it in a red solo cup with a combination of my pasture soil/organic soil, a very small amount of verm/perlite, I put it almost surface level with just a tiiinny amount of dirt covering it...and guess what?...It's beating the seed that I germinated 4 days ago with the cup method!!!....WTF!!!!@#$!@# Lmao.....The one I used with the cup method is just sitting on the surface/no signs of popping out leaves...pick it out carefully and try to re germinate?
The one I used earlier today is already showing a nice thick green tap root and is pushing the seed up above ground...
Sooooo idk if it was because I used bag seed while using the cup method some years ago and now I am using dro seeds from a vendor...but paper towel method the way to go...if the fail seed doesn't show progress soon I'll start to germinate another one that way. Sigh...I guess this is just how one learns right?
Btw Budgwb, checked out your journal, awesome stuff! I'll be watching, I hope my plants will look as healthy as yours [^_^], good luck! I'll keep you all posted.
Is there anything I can do for the fail seed? Or should I just let it RIP in the seed graveyard if things don't progress?
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Quote:
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budgrowerwannabe said:
I used the paper towels method works well for me 9 out of ever 10 germ.
for me.
You'll get a chuckle out of this, so I planted a seed earlier today that I had germinated using the paper towel method (Let it soak for 48 hours, the tap root was about half centimeter out +/-), Planted it in a red solo cup with a combination of my pasture soil/organic soil, a very small amount of verm/perlite, I put it almost surface level with just a tiiinny amount of dirt covering it...and guess what?...It's beating the seed that I germinated 4 days ago with the cup method!!!....WTF!!!!@#$!@# Lmao.....The one I used with the cup method is just sitting on the surface/no signs of popping out leaves...pick it out carefully and try to re germinate?
The one I used earlier today is already showing a nice thick green tap root and is pushing the seed up above ground...
Sooooo idk if it was because I used bag seed while using the cup method some years ago and now I am using dro seeds from a vendor...but paper towel method the way to go...if the fail seed doesn't show progress soon I'll start to germinate another one that way. Sigh...I guess this is just how one learns right?
Btw Budgwb, checked out your journal, awesome stuff! I'll be watching, I hope my plants will look as healthy as yours [^_^], good luck! I'll keep you all posted.
Is there anything I can do for the fail seed? Or should I just let it RIP in the seed graveyard if things don't progress?
Just let it be water it when it gets dry and hope for the best The more you fuck with it the more it might likely die
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Blackd0ve420
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Kk. I have a feeling it's not going to make it but I'll give it its chance. If I don't see any progress by tomorrow night I'll start germinating a new seed to take its place.
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budgrowerwannabe
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Quote:
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Kk. I have a feeling it's not going to make it but I'll give it its chance. If I don't see any progress by tomorrow night I'll start germinating a new seed to take its place.
sounds like a good idea
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Add more perlite and vermiculite to the soil, don't be afraid to mix it down to 50% soil or less. You might not have enough aeration or drainage for them in the soaked soil that retains so much water
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Blackd0ve420
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Re: Getting Nervous.. [Re: poke_joster]
#616224 - 04/04/12 11:53 AM (12 years, 17 days ago) |
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I'll probably do that when I have to transplant the seedlings to their pots (In idk...2-3 weeks?). What do you all think, 2 part soil 1 part verm 1 part perlite?
P.S. Should I drill holes in the bottom of the pots I plan on using or does it matter
Edited by Blackd0ve420 (04/04/12 11:53 AM)
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Could even just put in an equal amount of each. Yes, make sure there are drainage holes in the bottom this way you can flush them out later.
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