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Offline13buds
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    #609670 - 02/18/12 12:21 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

k, if you had the cash (not rich but had the cash) link me to your 1000w hps set up. :thumbup:

need the 1000w light / hood / ballast / in line cooler / carbon filter etc...  I dont know all the parts needed but you get the point of this post.:ganja:

Im trying to price different 1000w set ups cus I wana get this shit started and I still dont know wtf Im looking at when I try to shop for deals yet still keep the quality. :smirk:

its going in a 4'x4' grow tent with about 4 plants :stoner:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #609672 - 02/18/12 12:26 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

if i had the cash, id go with a LED system.


But because I dont, I am about to get a 600watt Hps/MH setup from HTG.


That's remote ballast, 6 inch cool tube reflector hood, 1 mh bulb, and upgrading the hps bulb to a hotilux bulb. After i get my vent fan,duct, filter ect, ill have about 350$ dished out on it.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Miscusi]
    #609674 - 02/18/12 12:53 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Dimo114 may still have a good deal on a 1000 watt set up.
I bought his 600, and he made a more than fair offer on the other stuff he had.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds] * 1
    #609679 - 02/18/12 05:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-Digital-Greenhouse-1000-watt-HPS-Grow-Light.asp

AgroMax 1000w HPS Bulb ($40.00)
AIROFLOW Reflector ($70.00)

edit: That in a 4x4 tent is way overkill. You'd be more than good with a 600.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: RasJeph]
    #609707 - 02/18/12 11:37 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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AgroMax 1000w HPS Bulb ($40.00)


edit: That in a 4x4 tent is way overkill. You'd be more than good with a 600.



That bulb is a peice of shit, just saying.
And 600 watts is better for 3x3, and 1000 is best for 4x4.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Stoneth]
    #609710 - 02/18/12 12:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Mmm, I thought it was a good mid-level bulb. I was actually looking at an Agromax brand bulb as a replacement for an old bulb...any reason why you say that?


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: RasJeph]
    #609711 - 02/18/12 01:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, plant growth is the main reason.
I prefer ultra sun bulbs, over all others.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: RasJeph]
    #609712 - 02/18/12 01:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I think htg prices are fair. As in the better the item/brand, the higher the price.

And I do still have a 1000 watt system for trade.

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Miscusi]
    #609721 - 02/18/12 02:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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if i had the cash, id go with a LED system.


But because I dont, I am about to get a 600watt Hps/MH setup from HTG.


That's remote ballast, 6 inch cool tube reflector hood, 1 mh bulb, and upgrading the hps bulb to a hotilux bulb. After i get my vent fan,duct, filter ect, ill have about 350$ dished out on it.



 


In ten years LED may be the way to go.  But not now.  I wouldn't waste the money even if I had gobs of extra cash just laying around.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #609723 - 02/18/12 02:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Miscusi said:
if i had the cash, id go with a LED system.


But because I dont, I am about to get a 600watt Hps/MH setup from HTG.


That's remote ballast, 6 inch cool tube reflector hood, 1 mh bulb, and upgrading the hps bulb to a hotilux bulb. After i get my vent fan,duct, filter ect, ill have about 350$ dished out on it.



 


In ten years LED may be the way to go.  But not now.  I wouldn't waste the money even if I had gobs of extra cash just laying around.




Seems like it'd be awesome as supplemental lighting :yesnod:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: RasJeph]
    #609724 - 02/18/12 02:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'd rather just throw up more and more HID's.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Dimo114]
    #609726 - 02/18/12 03:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I think htg prices are fair. As in the better the item/brand, the higher the price.

And I do still have a 1000 watt system for trade.




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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #609727 - 02/18/12 03:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I'd rather just throw up more and more HID's.




True, but I guess if temps were an issue supplemental lighting with some LED would be neat.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: RasJeph]
    #609729 - 02/18/12 03:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
I'd rather just throw up more and more HID's.




True, but I guess if temps were an issue supplemental lighting with some LED would be neat.





Ive herd great things about CFL and LED together


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Miscusi]
    #610014 - 02/20/12 08:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

only 1 link :confused2:

I dont have hydro shops or big greenhouse centers or any places that sell lights like these so I would really appreciate the help :watchingyou:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610015 - 02/20/12 08:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Get a Sun Systems or browse HTG's website



Oh and you should get that package tomorrow bro.

Hit me up when ya get it, And let me know if there is anything else I can do for ya!


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Miscusi]
    #610017 - 02/20/12 08:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:super:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610060 - 02/21/12 12:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Based on what all the growers I know personally say, allocate your funds towards a bulb you can get great results with a hortilux bulb and skimp a little on the ballast and reflector.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong but like I said from what I gathered the quality of the bulb is of the most importance if your trying to allocate funds efficiently.

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: bm90191]
    #610083 - 02/21/12 01:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hortilux bulbs are great bulbs indeed, but ultra sun bulbs are just as good, and a faction of the price.

Would also like to note, that it appears the ulta sun bulb hold on to their lums longer, than Hortilux.
But yeah the bulb plays a huge part in plant growth.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Stoneth]
    #610084 - 02/21/12 01:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Hortilux bulbs are great bulbs indeed, but ultra sun bulbs are just as good, and a faction of the price.

Would also like to note, that it appears the ulta sun bulb hold on to their lums longer, than Hortilux.
But yeah the bulb plays a huge part in plant growth.




:thumbup:

I agree and I think a reflector/hood is the second best thing to consider, especially with controlling temperatures the air cooled hoods with lenses will allow a higher wattage bulb in a smaller area and still maintain a stable temperature if set up properly with an in-line fan to pull out the hot air.

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: bm90191]
    #610291 - 02/23/12 07:00 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610293 - 02/23/12 07:19 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Haven't used that particular carbon filter.  But looks like a good deal on the combo.  I'd try it out. 

Well what kind of light are you wanting to run?  That's gonna determine the size of the tent you want.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #610323 - 02/23/12 11:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

1000w hid HPS for flowering

Im a big guy and I know a 1000w is good for a 4x4 but I need to move inside the tent to work so Im thinking the 76"x76"x76" is best for me now..

so the carbon filter combo isnt junk?  I need them, just wanted to make sure it wasnt trash. :thumbup:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610328 - 02/23/12 12:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty much with HID you want to get a good ballast and a decent air cooled reflector, but the most important 2nd to ballast is the bulb, a crap 5$ china bulb wont do what a 25-80$ bulb will :P


I am going LED  next month. :smile:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610359 - 02/23/12 05:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Then get the 76x76x76,  Nothing wrong with that man.  I think that carbon filter will work just fine.  I see no reason why it wouldn't.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #610396 - 02/23/12 08:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds] * 1
    #610397 - 02/23/12 08:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Should have gotta a 6 inch.  You need that amount of air exchange that a 6 inch will give you.  Plus it will help with smell.  4 inch probably not gonna cut it.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #610398 - 02/23/12 08:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If he only plans to cult 2 plants he wll be find with 4 inch as long as the cfm is decent.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Miscusi] * 1
    #610401 - 02/23/12 08:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

And I'd also look for a sealed air cooled hood.

190 CFM.  I'd go for the 6 inch personally.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #610403 - 02/23/12 08:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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And I'd also look for a sealed air cooled hood.

190 CFM.  I'd go for the 6 inch personally.





Yea me too, but I think he can get away with it.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #610406 - 02/23/12 08:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Should have gotta a 6 inch.  You need that amount of air exchange that a 6 inch will give you.  Plus it will help with smell.  4 inch probably not gonna cut it.



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190 CFM.  I'd go for the 6 inch personally.



I agree with this 100%.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Stoneth]
    #610410 - 02/23/12 08:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:jimcarreysplit: 

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arent all the duct holes on lights 4"  :shrug:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610412 - 02/23/12 09:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Both of my hoods are 6 inch.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Stoneth]
    #610414 - 02/23/12 09:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

guess I got some more shopping to do :super:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610416 - 02/23/12 09:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Also there are 8 inch hoods as well.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #610418 - 02/23/12 09:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Im only going to have 2 maybe 4 MJ plants going at once the rest of the area will have apple tree seedlings and carnivorous plants :grin:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610429 - 02/23/12 10:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Im only going to have 2 maybe 4 MJ plants going at once the rest of the area will have apple tree seedlings and carnivorous plants :grin:





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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Miscusi]
    #610431 - 02/23/12 10:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

so this is what I need but is it good enough or is this cheap shit  piss poor quality :shrug2:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160739878349?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_2286wt_1177  <-- light $288.50

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160739878404?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1622wt_1177  <-- filter and blower $168.50

http://www.ebay.com/itm/150761355490?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1670wt_1177  <-- tent/grow box  $148.50

$ 605.50 for the works :shrug:

if you can beat the prices / quality for the same items please do, this is the best I could do taking in all the advice from everyone :super:

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
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    #610459 - 02/24/12 10:49 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610461 - 02/24/12 11:28 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Miscusi]
    #610463 - 02/24/12 11:38 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

tax check :baaaam:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610469 - 02/24/12 12:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Looks good man!


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610470 - 02/24/12 12:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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tax check :baaaam:





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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Miscusi]
    #610471 - 02/24/12 12:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I dropped over $1,300 on my setup, and its just a basic closet setup in a hydrofarm tent!


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #610473 - 02/24/12 01:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:wayshegoes:

I post some pics once I get it all & get it set up :super:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610477 - 02/24/12 01:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Miscusi]
    #610504 - 02/24/12 04:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Cool setup!  cant wait to see it in action! :awelol:

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: phrostbyte]
    #610808 - 02/27/12 11:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I got my order in today!  :woot:

just one more ballast and hood to show up and Ill get it all put up this week and getz to growing some plants :dancer:

so my set up will now consist of:

a 1000w HPS 6" sealed air cooled hood for the flowering tent

a 1000w MH 19" x 15" gull wing reflector for the veg area

2x 1000w switchable MH/HPS ballasts

a 76" x 76" x 76" grow tent with 6" carbon filtration

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #610809 - 02/27/12 11:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Uh.....hmmm.....how are you gonna control heat in your veg area??


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #610810 - 02/27/12 11:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

its an open room/area with a window A/C unit



my grow box/tent will be on the opposite side of the room from the window about where Im standing to take this pic, thers no heat duct in the room so its cold already.  Im going to dry run the whole deal for a couple days to monitor temps and see what adjustments need to be made. :super:


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    #610811 - 02/28/12 12:06 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Beautiful.  Just making sure that wasn't missed man.  Can't wait to see what happens.  I start cutting mine down this weekend.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #610884 - 02/28/12 02:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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    #610977 - 02/28/12 09:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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its an open room/area with a window A/C unit



my grow box/tent will be on the opposite side of the room from the window about where Im standing to take this pic, thers no heat duct in the room so its cold already.  Im going to dry run the whole deal for a couple days to monitor temps and see what adjustments need to be made. :super:




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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #611401 - 03/03/12 02:45 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)



:themoreyouknow:





Ill have pics of it all arranged and set up soon enough, Im still waiting on a ballast to show up :super:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #613496 - 03/20/12 07:21 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/612730#612730 my set up :ganja:

so Im thinking about an all foxfarm soil and nutrient grow, I wana try each FF soil they have to see whats best for my situation/setup. 

they have 3 types, 1 with guano and earthworm castings (happy frog), 1 with ph balance 6.3-6.8 (light warrior), and 1 with fish, crab and shrimp meal and earthworm casting and guano. (ocean forest).

Im germing them and putting them in rockwool or jiffy mix seed starer then once they are past seedling they go in a 5 gal bucket for the rest of their lives fyi :stoned:
Im going to try 2 plants in each soil plus I have a bag of generic soil and a bag of MG garden soil Im going to test out also. :thumbup:

(actual question)
but Im having trouble understanding the nutes..  I know I need a micronute, a veg nute and a flowering nute, so I (havent bought yet) picked grow big, tiger bloom and I dont know which micro nute to pick and what are beastie bloomz, cha ching and open sesame used for? :confused2:

are they supplements, micronutes or replacements for the tiger bloom nutes? :shrug:

or whats your preferred 3 bottles? :bonghit2:

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #613558 - 03/20/12 02:44 PM (12 years, 10 days ago)

nobody wants to put there :2cents: in?

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #613587 - 03/20/12 06:50 PM (12 years, 10 days ago)

Okay, well Light Warrior is made for seedlings and cuttings.  Almost no nutrients in it.  No need to bother with this stuff on a full grow unless you're just wanting to try out a soil-less thing.  The other 2 are meant to be used in full grows.


The nutrient you're missing is Big Bloom, which is a little misleading, but that's you're micronute. 


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #613616 - 03/20/12 08:12 PM (12 years, 10 days ago)

sorry for my impatience bumping this earlier, Im used to shroomery response time :fonda:

sweet now I can go get the right stuff and not waist any money. :super:

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #613622 - 03/20/12 08:24 PM (12 years, 10 days ago)

No problem man.  Im not usually up before noon, so not getting on here until about 2 or so is the norm.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #613633 - 03/20/12 09:00 PM (12 years, 10 days ago)



dont but the shitty heavy ass square ebay ballasts :nono:

ordered it 22 days ago, used it for 2 weeks, sparks/fire :onfire:

hope the manufacturer warranty covers faulty crap. :smirk:

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #613641 - 03/20/12 09:49 PM (12 years, 10 days ago)

Who made that one??  Looks like a sunlight supply, same as I run, and have been running for over 6-7 years. Just don't buy off of ebay.


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    #613659 - 03/20/12 11:19 PM (12 years, 10 days ago)

Nope not the brand I have, just looks like it.  I bet you just got a bad one is all, I bet your next one will work great.


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    #613664 - 03/20/12 11:27 PM (12 years, 10 days ago)

Im hope so, cus Im down my flowering room until I get a new one, but Im a few weeks from flowering :blazed:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #613723 - 03/21/12 11:03 AM (12 years, 9 days ago)

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dont but the shitty heavy ass square ebay ballasts :nono:

ordered it 22 days ago, used it for 2 weeks, sparks/fire :onfire:

hope the manufacturer warranty covers faulty crap. :smirk:

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: ganjahero]
    #613737 - 03/21/12 12:02 PM (12 years, 9 days ago)

you can say that again, what if I hadnt been in the room when it happened, it would have caught my house of fire for sure.  sparks like the 4th of july were shooting out at least 3' b4 I could unhook it to stop the short. :shrug:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #613739 - 03/21/12 12:12 PM (12 years, 9 days ago)

so how long can a seedling stay in seed starter mix b4 having to be put into real soil? 

oh and by the way, seed starter mix is better for casing mushrooms then it is for seeds/seedlings.. :smirk:


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    #613741 - 03/21/12 12:13 PM (12 years, 9 days ago)

Depends on the size of the container and the specific seedling mix.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #613742 - 03/21/12 12:18 PM (12 years, 9 days ago)



jiffy mix seed starter since 3/17 :strokebeard:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #613744 - 03/21/12 12:20 PM (12 years, 9 days ago)

I would transplant a few days after the first set of true leaves show.


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:greenthumb::hst:

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    #613747 - 03/21/12 12:28 PM (12 years, 9 days ago)

I'd wait a touch longer , at least a week at a minimum from first set of true leaves.


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    #613753 - 03/21/12 01:01 PM (12 years, 9 days ago)

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #613754 - 03/21/12 01:03 PM (12 years, 9 days ago)

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I got my order in today!  :woot:

just one more ballast and hood to show up and Ill get it all put up this week and getz to growing some plants :dancer:

so my set up will now consist of:

a 1000w HPS 6" sealed air cooled hood for the flowering tent

a 1000w MH 19" x 15" gull wing reflector for the veg area

2x 1000w switchable MH/HPS ballasts

a 76" x 76" x 76" grow tent with 6" carbon filtration

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #613755 - 03/21/12 01:20 PM (12 years, 9 days ago)

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/612730#612730  my stuff :stoner:

now how would my ballast burn up if I wasnt using it?  :wow:
I take it you hadnt read all the posts yet. :grin:


in the white boxes next to the ballast :super:

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #614058 - 03/23/12 04:59 AM (12 years, 8 days ago)

A New ballast is being sent out as of yesterday :woot:

no cost to me at all. :dancer:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #614059 - 03/23/12 05:00 AM (12 years, 8 days ago)

k, got a "what would you do" thing for you guys..

for my weed grow I planned on using fox farm soil (because its good/recommended/proven/organic/for weed) and get 3 bags 2sq ft bags of happy frog soil and 1 1.5sq ft bag of ocean forest.  the happy frog is 20.99 a bag and the ocean forest bag is 18.99 a bag.

heres my thang...  god damn Miracle Grow garden soil is 3 bags for $10 :smirk:

is Miracle Grow worth the financial trade off or should I go for the specialized organic soils.. :shrug:

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #614063 - 03/23/12 05:23 AM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Man, don't go for the miracle grow.  That shit is awful.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #614066 - 03/23/12 05:36 AM (12 years, 8 days ago)

:cryaboutit:  thats not what I wanted to hear. :smirk:

another "you get what you pay for" type thing then... :noob:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds] * 1
    #614085 - 03/23/12 07:18 AM (12 years, 8 days ago)

some people on here told me about
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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #614132 - 03/23/12 01:57 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #614155 - 03/23/12 04:24 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Get your lights closer to them, they're stretching quite a bit.


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    #614162 - 03/23/12 05:10 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

I rotate them every day, I had them in a humidity doom till today, where I have them is 75* any closer and they get too hot. :shrug:


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    #614166 - 03/23/12 06:37 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Put an oscillating fan on them and get that light closer.  That will help stop the stretching, keep the temp down a bit, and strengthen the stems.


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    #614169 - 03/23/12 07:17 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

I'll get a fan tomorrow.  :super:


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    #614171 - 03/23/12 07:49 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Make sure it oscillates.


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    #614172 - 03/23/12 07:58 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

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Make sure it oscillates.




I have one that doesnt oscillate How bad will it hurt my girls?

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    #614173 - 03/23/12 09:12 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Put it on a timer so that it goes on and off about every 5 minutes, or buy an oscillating one.  You want to give them time at rest so that they don't have air constantly blowing on them.  Won't necessarily hurt them though.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #614174 - 03/23/12 09:13 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #614179 - 03/23/12 09:20 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

I have a/c going in the room and its pretty cool in the room, it just under the light is hot, b4 I had plants I had a thermometer on the floor under the light and it got up to 120* so I have my stuff off to the side still in the light but in a cooler "zone".  I rotate everything once a day and water if needed with a mister.

so just blowing the air ill keep it cool enough to put them under it?  I know if it doenst burn my hand it shouldnt hurt the plant but :noob:

maybe put the fan by the a/c to blow the cool air in there direction... !000w is intense :eek:


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    #614190 - 03/23/12 09:48 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

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maybe put the fan by the a/c to blow the cool air in there direction... !000w is intense :eek:


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    #614193 - 03/23/12 09:53 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

:rotfl:  Im tryin man :grin: 

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #614584 - 03/25/12 10:22 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)




are they soo skinny because they arent in dirt yet and they are still in seed starter :confused2:

the light is as close as I can without burning them... :smirk:


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    #614589 - 03/25/12 10:31 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Nope, they're stretching because they need more light.  What are you running??


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    #614591 - 03/25/12 10:33 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

1000w MH :yesnod: 

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    #614596 - 03/25/12 10:37 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Wow, how far away from the light are they??


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #614597 - 03/25/12 10:40 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

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veg area/room




I pulled the light stand back about 1.5' cus it was too hot and the light is up as far as it gets, Im putting the fan on them but its still over 80*. :smirk:


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    #614602 - 03/25/12 10:48 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Well it's so hot because you dont have an air cooled hood.  There's nothing you're going to be able to do about heat with out adding an AC or replacing your hood and getting ventilation installed, preferably both.


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    #614604 - 03/25/12 10:54 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

:wow:  that sux :ohwell:

I'll just have do my best to control it this batch cus Im tapped out after getting all the soils/nutes etc... yesterday :smirk:

I'll just bury them up to their leaves when I put them in soil. :thumbup:

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    #614608 - 03/25/12 11:05 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

That'll do just fine as a temporary fix.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #614899 - 03/27/12 12:30 PM (12 years, 3 days ago)

so are superthrive and clonex both used for rooting clone cuttings?

I know clonex is just for cuttings but can superthrive be used for the same thing or is it just for nute suppliment?  :confused2:

and is this ph tester good enough for what Im doing?
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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #614906 - 03/27/12 12:51 PM (12 years, 3 days ago)

The clonex is what you want.
No real need for superthrive, until there are at least signs of roots, imo.
As for the ph tester I can't help ya.  I use the ddrops by GH.
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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Stoneth]
    #614908 - 03/27/12 12:56 PM (12 years, 3 days ago)

:greenthumb:

Im just tryin to figure out what superthrive is for..  everyone keeps telling me to use it but what for/why? :shrug:

Ive read the label on the bottle but it just confuses me further as to why I would use it when I have the foxfarm nute trio and organic soil, Im only moving them one time from the seed starter to 5gal buckets till harvest. :shrug2:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #614912 - 03/27/12 01:03 PM (12 years, 3 days ago)

Superthrive helps plants and their root systems deal with many types of stress.  In my experience it helps with root growth as well.

I personally quit using it about a year ago.

Be sure when using it, to only use a few drops per gallon, I found that anymore than 1 ml per three gallon is a bit wasteful.


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so its good for plant health over all but doesnt do anything for yields, kinda like adding gypsum to mushroom substrates..  :strokebeard:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #615101 - 03/28/12 01:22 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)




building me a bubble cloner :super:

waiting on my neoprene collars to get here and its about ready to clone :omgawesome:

Ill get a submersible pump for the aeroponics style setup later. :yesnod:

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    #617255 - 04/09/12 10:48 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I have a water quality question about hard water.

I have high iron/sulphur/calcium etc from my well water

it leaves behind the orange stain kinda water. 

how much of an issue is it to have this water for my plants?

and will it throw off everything when I start using fox farm nutes?

I looked into r/o machines but they dont remove sulphur so that is pointless for me.  :shrrug:

Ph isnt my issue only the minerals and nutrients levels and the effect on my plants in the long run. :thanx:

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    #617260 - 04/09/12 10:58 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Depends on how high the PPMs in the water.  It probably wont hurt to much.  Just don't go overboard on the FF nutrients.


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I planned on half strength the whole time anyway.  :shrug:


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    #617878 - 04/12/12 08:40 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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k, if you had the cash (not rich but had the cash) link me to your 1000w hps set up. :thumbup:

need the 1000w light / hood / ballast / in line cooler / carbon filter etc...  I dont know all the parts needed but you get the point of this post.:ganja:

Im trying to price different 1000w set ups cus I wana get this shit started and I still dont know wtf Im looking at when I try to shop for deals yet still keep the quality. :smirk:

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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: GreenShaman]
    #617899 - 04/12/12 10:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

its in my journal/sig :greenthumb:

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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #617960 - 04/13/12 06:29 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

what are possible reasons for the edges of the leaves to curl up just on the edges?...  heat?  that last couple days were hot but its all under control and back down to 75-80 from 95+ :eek:

im hoping it was just the heat...  :shrug:

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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #617973 - 04/13/12 08:50 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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what are possible reasons for the edges of the leaves to curl up just on the edges?...  heat?  that last couple days were hot but its all under control and back down to 75-80 from 95+ :eek:

im hoping it was just the heat...  :shrug:

its going to be 4 weeks from germination on monday and Ill post pics then also :photographer:




The leafs are curling at the very tips?  or do the whole leaves look a little weird?  Spidermites can make the tips curl up a bit but the leafs often look very funky...

what your describing though.... i fuckin have the explanation at the back of my head but I'm sorry i can't help more my head feels fried right now....

I don't think it has to do with the temp although 95 is fucking HOT i donna... :tongue:


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: GreenShaman]
    #617976 - 04/13/12 09:01 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

yeah just the edges, I'll see if it gets better after they get watered today.  I think they were getting cooked by my light when my A/C unit quit for a couple days.  temps are good now though. :thumbup:


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #617977 - 04/13/12 09:14 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)




this plant is the only one to curl on the edges. :confused2:



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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #618034 - 04/13/12 02:40 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Heat and low humidity is the number one reason for this.


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #618071 - 04/13/12 07:25 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I wish I didn't lose my grow bible.  It sounds like a nutrient issue to me... but I can't think of what nutrient I'm an amateur you see, at best.  Do you have that Cervantes book?


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    #618072 - 04/13/12 07:29 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Of course.


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    #618074 - 04/13/12 07:30 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Check up in there it must be in there,


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    #618077 - 04/13/12 07:38 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The pics he posted are classic low humidity high heat stress man. 


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #618091 - 04/13/12 07:59 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I dont think it would be a nute issue because Im using foxfarm happy frog and ocean forest soils and they have only been in the soil for 3weeks now, theres plenty of nutes in organic soil to last a month or more easy..  I was having heat issues tues-thursday and I watered today so Im hoping by this weekend things perk back up :thumbup:


Im topping sometime after I sex them, then starting my FoxFarm (and superthrive for my super killer blueberry clones) nutes at half strength. :greenthumb:


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #618092 - 04/13/12 08:03 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Remember that when once those leaves curl up like that, they wont go back down.  Look to new growth as to whether the problem has been resolved and getting better.  Also look to old growth to make sure it's not progressing.


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    #618093 - 04/13/12 08:04 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

:themoreyouknow: :bow2:


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #618094 - 04/13/12 08:06 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

As I reread that obviously both new growth and old growth depending on the condition are going to help indicate both progression of problems.


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #618095 - 04/13/12 08:07 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

so how do I determine how long my veg cycle should be?  I would like to get at least a QP off each successful plant  but a half pound or more would be sweet.

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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #618105 - 04/13/12 08:51 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

If they won't come back down shouldn't he just snip em'?

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    #618243 - 04/14/12 08:50 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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so how do I determine how long my veg cycle should be?




I know its a personal preference thing but being my 1st grow (with plants) how do I know when its big enough for flowering or too big for the veg room? 
and I know I can keep a plant in veg forever if I really wanted but thats not what Im trying to ask here. :grin:

I know the longer it veg's the bigger the yield to a point but how do I judge when or know what to look for?

I feel like Im not making sense, Im not asking yields but what determines readiness or things to know to get results I want.  :confused2:

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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #618245 - 04/14/12 08:56 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

It's gonna greatly depend on how tall you plan to grow.
A good rule of thumb is to expect the plant to double or thriple in height during flowering.


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    #618263 - 04/14/12 11:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

well I dont think I can do a plant bigger than 4', Im trying to avg a QP per plant but dont know how big they would need to be for that yield...  Im used to mushrooms not plants :hehehe:


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    #618485 - 04/16/12 10:55 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/618484#618484
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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #618523 - 04/16/12 01:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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well I dont think I can do a plant bigger than 4', Im trying to avg a QP per plant but dont know how big they would need to be for that yield...  Im used to mushrooms not plants :hehehe:





Im in the same boat. I only have a couple plants but I can't let them get too tall. I am planning on using the bending method so they'll grow more short and bushy like.

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    #618527 - 04/16/12 01:46 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Im topping multiple sites on each plant for more colas, then Ill prob have to tie them up to support them. :thumbup:


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #619259 - 04/19/12 04:21 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

still to early? :smirk:


plant #1


plant #2


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #619261 - 04/19/12 04:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I don't see any sex organs man.


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    #619297 - 04/19/12 09:25 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah those aren't female organs unfortunately you want to look for white thin hairs they won't be nice and straight like that more like....ehhh think of pubic hair lol they'll be thin and curly like but that is the area they'll be popping out of just keep a good eye out!

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    #620451 - 04/27/12 12:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

so how long COULD it take to show sex?  I know most show around a month or so but how long could it take cus Im feeling like somethings not right.  :confused2:

will they show even if they arent tall/big?

besides the sex Im waiting on most of them to get to the size I want them to be to put them into flowering.  i just wish i knew what was what so I could feel some sort of accomplishment :smirk:

I know if I dont let these plants get 1.5'-2' tall b4 I flower them I wont get the yield I want...  Im thinking a 3.5'-4' plant could yield at least a qp per. :shrug:

i need to ditch the males to spread out the plants..  if only I knew what they were.. :banghead:


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #620459 - 04/27/12 01:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well how old are your plants?  What kind of light are you giving them?


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    #620462 - 04/27/12 01:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

40days veg and 24/0 1000w MH

soil temps are around 65* and room temp is 70*-75*

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Pics?  Yeah that seems pretty small for that amount of time. How much soil are they in?


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    #620464 - 04/27/12 01:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

5 gal buckets, my last pics were 4 days ago 

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    #620468 - 04/27/12 01:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

They're looking healthy man.  40 days is a little early for wanting to see sex.  That's the problem with growing from seed, takes forever.  Do you have plenty of air exchange in your grow area?


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    #620470 - 04/27/12 01:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:yesnod:

24/7 window a/c going.  :smirk:

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    #620474 - 04/27/12 02:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

dude veg for as longgggg as you can, i vegged my plants i got now for almost 65 days lol.  They showed pre-flower sex probably toward like the 60th day or so.  Honestly your best bet is to just switch it to 12-12 to determine sex.  They should show in a few days maybe a week at most.  By the way what size pots are you growing in.  Thats a huge factor in determining how big your plants will grow to.  The general rule of thumb I've found in my research is roughly 1' per gallon.  Although here is a cap 25 gallon pots are unlikely to grow 25' tall plants.  But i'm in 3 gallon pots right now and all mine are between 3-4' or so.  Definitely on the smaller end of the spectrum.

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    #620475 - 04/27/12 02:55 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:nono:  my plants arent big enough to go 12/12 yet. :nonono:

I have 2 separate rooms, 1 for veg and 1 for flowering, my veg room stays 24/0 cus I have mother plants going and Id like my current grow to get to almost 2' tall b4 flowering so I can get a decent yield.  that and the max height I can go is 4' :smirk:

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    #620476 - 04/27/12 02:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yeah watch out because when you switch to flowering theyre gonna stretch like mutherfuckers ...you could do some low stress training...if you have the width try tying them down if they get to tall that will give you some better colas too

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    #620477 - 04/27/12 03:02 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

have you looked at/read any previous posts man?  :willfredjoint:

thats my issue, they are only like 8-9" tall after 40 days, theys short, well all but 2 of them and none are showing sex but I have time I guess... :bonghit2:


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24/7 window a/c going.  :smirk:

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AC doesn't equate to a lot of fresh air exchange.  You need to put in an exhaust and intake to get plenty of fresh co2 for them to feed off of. 

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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #620857 - 04/30/12 02:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #620922 - 04/30/12 09:28 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

now a bunch of shots to show sex, maybe.... let me know what you think.  :smirk:

























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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #620923 - 04/30/12 09:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Nope.  Nothing yet.


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #620925 - 04/30/12 10:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:noob:


wel I have 4 clones from my biggest plant and 2 from the next biggest that have grown roots in the bubble cloner so Im going to put them into flowering to force them to show, so at least Ill know if its worth wasting my FF nutes on the big plants or not.  I just dont like the idea of feeding potential males :smirk:  thats why its buggin me so much.. :shrug:


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #620996 - 05/01/12 10:35 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

you really don't need to even be feeding during veg man.  EVERY medicinal grower I know, including a colab of guys who get 2.5 pounds plant, stick to a strict no nutes for the first 30 days policy.

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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: bm90191]
    #620997 - 05/01/12 10:37 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

they'll only start feeding after 30 days so they will end up only feeding for like 2-3 weeks of veg

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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: bm90191]
    #621016 - 05/01/12 01:57 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

thats what I did but once a few of them get big they drink up some shit fast :grin:


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #621140 - 05/02/12 12:36 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Lets see if I got this right. :strokebeard:


Male :smirk:


Female :grin:


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: 13buds]
    #621144 - 05/02/12 12:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Looks that way.  Those pics are kinda blurry though


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Re: Help a noob out for a 1st grow. thanx [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #621146 - 05/02/12 12:55 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

my bad, its the only camera I have, 1.3mp sony psp cam :smirk:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #621480 - 05/04/12 11:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yup a cooling hood is great but the fan blowing or sucking has to be strong and quite or it dont work worth  a shit im talking from experince and over kill is great more light bjgger flowers!!!!!

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    #621795 - 05/07/12 09:21 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #622056 - 05/10/12 12:27 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:noob::banghead:

fucking veg room MH magnetic ballast blew out AGAIN!!!!!!  :facepalm:


I got 35+ clones and 3 mothers going :header:

how bad is this going to fuck my mothers, I got no clue as to how long they wont have a strong grow light (prolly till monday eve if I order soon), Ill d my best at getting CFLs in place till I get a new digi ballast cus magnetics sux but how fucked am I? :nonono:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #622077 - 05/10/12 08:10 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

have u checked your local hardware/lumber co mine carries the 400 watt hps bulb that i need when that shit happens u should be ok though gonna get stressed out a little bit ive had it happen to me once when i was flowering stressed it bad enough they turn herm  on me but it was
more than half way in so i just tried my best to cut the nut sacks off and still ended up with a just a couple of seeds but u are in veg i would wait til they come back from the stress before putting them into flowering if u are at that point

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: stonepony]
    #622116 - 05/10/12 12:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

nah man, my bulb didnt blow out :nono:  my ballast fried. :smirk:

and my mother plants never go to flower...  and I just cut these clones on monday. 

just want to know if Im screwed or the temp light change will fuck things up or not. :shrug:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #622118 - 05/10/12 12:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I think your ladies will be just fine. Maybe get a little stressed out and throw out a few weird leaf formations, and the clones may take longer to root (maybe cut another batch when you get a new ballast just to be safe?),  but other than that, you'll be okay imo...


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    #622121 - 05/10/12 01:18 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:africaface:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #622201 - 05/11/12 01:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Theyll be just fine.  Sounds like maybe you need to get a quality ballast.  In 7-8 years of growing I have only had 1 ballast go out on me.  And that was just a switch malfunction. 

Sunlight Supply makes a very high quality ballast.


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #622409 - 05/13/12 08:02 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261014546051?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_624wt_1177


I got this one, Im staying away from magnetic ballasts from now on.. :shrug:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #628517 - 06/19/12 10:13 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

just made my new toy :evil2:

48 port aero cloner :rockdude:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #628555 - 06/20/12 05:39 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

damn that thing is a beast :thumbup:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: shagdawg420]
    #628593 - 06/20/12 01:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

fyi - for those who might be interested in cloning ANYTHING, heres what it took to build a big cloner. :thumbup:
the only thing I put in the tub is water + superthrive :ganja:


31gal roughneck tote = $13  :super:

49 inserts @ .55c = $26.95

24-360 sprayer nozzles @ .75c = $18

185gph submersible pond pump = $14.95

12' - 1/2" pvc "plumbing" = free (laying around)

total for my diy aero-ponics cloner = $72.90+tx

compared to the wayyy overpriced models online like this one :eek:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EZ-Clone-30-Site-Aeroponic-Cloner-Hydroponics-EZ-Clone-/120839484257?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c22983361#ht_4306wt_972

I'll go w/the diy any time :stoner:
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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #630144 - 07/02/12 09:26 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Monday update!

the next batch in the veg room. :blazed:






My flowering room, almost ready for harvest :grin:






some close-ups :ganja:








Im in the last week and things are looking good. :yesnod:

not bad for my 1st time :stoner:

:thanx: for all advice given throughout this grow :respect:

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #631863 - 07/16/12 01:17 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #632594 - 07/25/12 05:10 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Still harvesting as they finish one by one :waits:

3 down 3 to go. :ganja:

some buds from the more indica phenotype.





one of my friends helping tend the garden :hippie:


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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #632629 - 07/25/12 03:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Simply beautiful, keep it up!

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 5is]
    #632824 - 07/26/12 10:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

well I harvested the last 3 just now and they are hanging to dry :woot:

I didnt think they were getting any bigger after 11 weeks. :smirk:


2gal buckets full of buds :ganja:






3 fatty colas :yesnod:




and thats the 6 sensi stars, next batch is 8 white widows 1 killer super blueberry and 1 strawberry cough clones, they will be ready to go into flowering next tues-weds :super:

in a week or so I'll have a guess the total dry weight contest for some prints in the shroomery marketplace, keep an eye out for it and thanx for watching my 1st ever grow :greenthumb:

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    #633150 - 07/29/12 08:16 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck!! that shit looks like it could be in mag. I hope my shit looks that good.

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #633543 - 08/01/12 10:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:greenthumb:
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just off the drying line :ganja:


finished and curing :leaf:


1/4# :bigjoint:






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    #633544 - 08/01/12 10:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

so Im trying to learn what effects the end yields but all I have figured out so far is that ferts dont do anything for yields, unless you under feed then it decreases but a plant can only eat what it can eat and as long as you feed it when it needs it it can only grow as big as genetics let it. its not the fert, all ferts contain the same stuff just at diff levels of NPK. ive learned that much so far. with my set up Im betting keeping and maintaining optimal conditions has alot to do with it. I just am wondering what it is though, lights, temps. PH, humidity... or all of the above.. I really hate trial and error learning.  :wow:

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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: shagdawg420]
    #634369 - 08/09/12 09:56 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

heres what Im workin with for the foreseeable future :yesnod:

3HB - Jack Heir X GDP X Romulan X Sensi Star / x25
Blue Widow / x2
Bubblegummer / x2
Dr. Grinspoon / x1
Holy Grail Kush / x3
Kandy Kush / x1
Killer Super Blueberry / x8
Lemon Juice Express / x2 
Liberty Haze / x2
LSD / x2
Misc. Unlabeled Sensi Star cross varieties / x100
OG13 / x1 
OG Kush / x1
Pineapple Express / x2
Raspberry Cough / x2
Romulan Max X Sensi Star / x50
Romulan (original) X Sensi Star / x38
Sensi Star / x13
Silver Haze X Sensi Star / x13
Snow White  (coming soon)
Sour Diesel #2 / x1 
Sour Jack / x1
The Pure (skunk #1) / x7
White Widow / x1


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Killer Super Blueberry
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Re: what would you pick if you could just because you can? [Re: 13buds]
    #635115 - 08/18/12 03:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

my next batch and the next and the next ....  :ganja:




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