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Experiments with cooking cannabis ....
    #603288 - 12/29/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

After reading BatKats Tek on making canna-oil
(and after making some potent vaped weed brownies )
I've ventured into cooking w/regular non vaped weed.

I have decarbed 20g of herb @ 220f for 20 minutes
checked and gave it another 10 minutes for a 30 minute decarb
leaving me with 15g of cleaned powdered cannabis to use

I measured out 14 tablespoons of soy lecithin
to be added throughout the heating process.

{I know 14 tbsp sounds like a lot. At this ratio I have almost 3x as much lecithin as I do coconut oil. (1 cup=16 tbsp) I was looking at having 15 servings and the bottle of lecithin said a serving was 1 tbsp. Once I had 14 tbsp in a bowl, it looked like an awful lot so I stopped there.}

I have 15g herb, 1/3 cup coconut oil and ~1tbsp of lecithin in the oven @ 200f.
Im going to keep the temps below 250f and go for a long cook/freeze processing.
Last two batches of vaped weed went for 10/10 heat/freeze and 15/15.

Probably going to go with another 15 hours of both again.
I'll stir every 60-90 minutes while in the oven
and add a little of the soy lecithin with each stir.

I have my oil in two pie pans sitting on this ...



The temp reads right at 200 while cooking. Since I'm stirring every hour, I highly doubt that the inner temp ever gets that hot. I wish I had someway of measuring the inner temps while its in the oven.

After talking with BatKat I think I'll cook this batch for 12 hours rather than 15

Time Frames

2130 - oven
0030 - freeze
0230 - oven
0530 - freeze
1230 - oven
1830 - done

Total times
12h oven
9h freezer


I let the pan cool enough to transfer the oil to the bowl.
Added 4tbsp water to enhance cooling, 2 eggs and mixed well.
I added one and a half bags of mix due to the excess lecithin that was added and mixed well.
Poured the mix into a greased 8x8 pan and in placed in a preheated 275f oven.

I expect them to take close to an hour to cook.
Will report on effects as soon as possible :wave:


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Edited by niteowl (12/29/11 09:44 PM)

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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603289 - 12/29/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I ate my first brownies 30 minutes ago and I can already feel them in the back of my eyes :laugh:


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603292 - 12/29/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I get 16 ounces of vegetable oil for twenty dollars that makes great brownies. The oil is made from around 2 ounces of trim. It took some time to perfect but a half cup makes 12 brownies. I cook it for a half hour to an hour at 290 or 300.


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: FRACTALife]
    #603293 - 12/29/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

If you will read this thread on oils
You will see that coconut oil is the best oil for cannabis extraction.
Cannabis binds best to a saturated fat. Coconut oil has the highest (92%) of any other oil.

These are not my opinions these are simple facts.

To date, my AVB brownies have been almost as strong as my non-vaped weed brownies. Im positive now that I wasn't properly decarbing my herb. Im hoping that this batch is considerably stronger than my last batch of non-vaped weed brownies

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Almost 2 hours in and still mainly feel it in my eyes but Im starting to get a lil wobbly when I walk :tongue2:


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603301 - 12/29/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603303 - 12/30/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i has some brownies also:humpme:


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #603304 - 12/30/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

3 hours in and still climbing.
gotta good body high going now

think I should have decarbed for another 15-30 minutes though
or gone with 250f rather than 200f and stayed with 30 min

I should be much higher
this far into eating them

I ate two, 2gram avb brownies the other week and was MUCH higher 3 hours in


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603306 - 12/30/11 12:38 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

nice work.

dang, now i am inspired to make some brownies. i've got coconut butter, too. Hmmm :strokebeard:

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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: eNtranceAsexit]
    #603310 - 12/30/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Just look at the label and see what the saturated fat % is :wink:

I've been told to not go over 250 during the heating process
The original tek by Badkat was a 3h cook @ 250f

The only thing I have modified was the temps and times
much longer times with a much lower temp

as soon as I get my method perfected
I'm going to use a PC @ 5psi (220f)
in place of the oven for a heat source

same pie pan set-up for my oil/herb mix
with a paper filter to keep moisture out

I did a dry run w/instant rice and the rice was still dry at the end of a 1 hour cook
just set the pie pans on some half-pint jars and add an inch of water to the PC

I'm positive that the added pressure of the PC will aid in extraction
I just need to perfect my method then replace the oven with the PC


*********

4h in and still slowly climbing
still gotta body high coming on
had to use some eye drops earlier :tongue2:


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603313 - 12/30/11 01:52 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Pretty fugin high now

can barely hold my eyes open
strong body high's gettin stronger
nice head high settin in too

wont be long and I'll be in bed :tongue2:


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603432 - 12/31/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i love THC. so malleable... :bigblunt:

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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: eNtranceAsexit]
    #603445 - 12/31/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

This batch was the strongest non-vaped batch so far.

I believe that the addition of so much lecithin cause the slow increase/decrease in the high. I also think that I should have decarbed a bit longer. They should have been a bit stronger IMO. Im not far from having enough AVB to do another batch of brownies. Will use much less lecithin (2 vs 14 tbsp) and I may use the PC @ 5psi for the last round of heat :wink:


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603701 - 01/02/12 06:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I just ate a whisk cover cannabutter. wait... yeah


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: King Koopa]
    #603719 - 01/02/12 09:43 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

King Koopa said:
I just ate a whisk cover cannabutter. wait... yeah




Cannabutter = FAIL :nonono:

Not saying that you wont get high from your canna-butter
just that if you use coconut oil instead of butter
you will double your potency :yesnod:


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603722 - 01/02/12 10:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

im not putting coconut in my brownies ugh, brah


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: King Koopa]
    #603725 - 01/02/12 10:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

:rolleyes:

coconut oil doesn't taste like coconuts man :wink:


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603726 - 01/02/12 10:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

and its probably one of the healthiest oils you could ever eat.
MUCH healthier than butter and does a much better job at cannabis extraction

win win

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There is a misconception spread among many people that coconut oil is not good for the heart. This is because it contains a large quantity of saturated fats. However, coconut oil is beneficial for the heart. It contains about 50% lauric acid, which helps in preventing various heart problems including high cholesterol levels and high blood pressure. The saturated fats present in coconut oil are not harmful as it happens in case of other vegetables oils. It does not lead to increase in LDL levels. It also reduces the incidence of injury in arteries and therefore helps in preventing atherosclerosis.




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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603758 - 01/03/12 11:41 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i know about coconut oil. I use it for my hair. To tell me any ingredient put in a pastry wont effect the taste is a bit schitz. Im all for your way, spread the knowledge or whatever, but stop with conceitedness.

smug motherfucker


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: King Koopa]
    #603765 - 01/03/12 01:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

WTF dude, have you ever tasted coconut oil?

It has a neutral taste.

It doesn't taste nothing like a coconut dumbass


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: niteowl]
    #603766 - 01/03/12 01:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I just told you ive used coconut oil. I also just told you I'd rather have butter in my brownies, because the tastes differ greatly. Get over it

not even water has a neutral taste


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: King Koopa]
    #603771 - 01/03/12 02:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Niteowl next time I cook with ganja, I'll try coco oil, I am curious to see the differences!


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: Manitou]
    #603777 - 01/03/12 02:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Once you try coconut oil, for your cannabis extraction, you will never use any other oil :super:


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis .... [Re: King Koopa]
    #603792 - 01/03/12 05:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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not even water has a neutral taste




your ignorance is amazing

I could hand you a brownie made with butter and one made with coconut oil
and you wouldn't be able to taste the difference between the two.

The reason I use coconut oil for my canna-brownies is because it does a much better job of extracting cannabinoids than butter ever could.

Why would you want to knowingly use an oil that gives inferior results.

And Im not saying that your brownies don't get you high.

I'm just that they will get you twice as high just by changing your oil source :super:


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Experiments with cooking cannabis part 2 [Re: niteowl]
    #603826 - 01/03/12 11:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

29g powdered & sifted AVB
1/3 cup coconut oil
2 tbsp soy lecithin
4 piles of vapor resin

{note my AVB has a few stems, seeds & ~5-10% regular herb}

I gave this batch a 40 minute decarb @ ~220f just to finish activating that last lil bit :wink:

Added oil, herb, resin, and a dash of the soy to a 200f oven for ~30 minutes to incorporate everything, then off to the freezer while I sleep

Time Frames
0630 - freeze
1330 - oven
2030 - freeze
2230 - oven
0030 - done

Time Totals
9h oven
9h freezer


I'm almost done processing this batch of canna-oil.

I will cook them within the hour and report back once I have an idea of their potency

Edited by niteowl (01/03/12 11:20 PM)

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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis part 2 [Re: niteowl]
    #603844 - 01/04/12 01:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

first brownie down the hatch :wink:


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis part 2 [Re: niteowl]
    #603856 - 01/04/12 04:00 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The come-up has been kinda slow, but steady
nothing overpowering but nothing to complain about as of yet


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis part 2 [Re: niteowl]
    #603857 - 01/04/12 04:21 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Coconut oil rules.

Extra virgin kinda tastes like coconut, but I like coconut.


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Re: Experiments with cooking cannabis part 2 [Re: iwasaClown]
    #603863 - 01/04/12 05:50 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Any form of olive oil sucks harder than butter.
completely wrong kind of fat for cannabis to bind to

This is the best batch to date according to my guinea pig :tongue2:


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Edited by niteowl (01/04/12 05:51 AM)

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