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Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Greenhouse's Chemdog & Dinafem's Critical Jack Auto's ~-=Completed=-~
    #589367 - 09/29/11 12:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, I've just started my first grow.
Being my 1st time I decided to do a grow journal, to help out other noobs, and also so some of the more experienced growers can catch my mistakes before they become unforgiving and costly, (xX my fingers are crossed Xx :laugh:)

The seeds. Five Feminised Chemdog seeds from Greenhouse.
Cost $33 delivered to australia


Germination
Used a plate, some damp paper towels, large snap-lock baggie




Seeds were put on the top shelf of my closet which was room temperature, then into the large baggie.
Twenty-four hours later, the seeds were just beginning to crack.
At fourty hours all seeds had germinated.
They were carefully planted, roots pointing down, into pots.


Soil used was a plain potting mix with no fertilizers.
I then put the pots outside, as my growroom isn't ready yet. Should be ready by next week I'm hoping. Waiting for some rainbow foil and missing reflector bracket to be delivered, and need to install an intake vent and my 150mm centrifuge fan.


-=Edit=-
Some of the earlier photobucket photos have been removed by me as I forgot to untag the GPS locations, but the majority of photobucket pics were removed from the servers by Photobucket. Pics uploaded to Growery still work fine though :laugh:


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My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #589394 - 09/29/11 08:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

looking good so far man. your soil looks really chunky tho??


aside from that im super stoked to see how this comes out ive been curious to see how the greenhouse chemdog performs.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: Pernicious]
    #589430 - 09/29/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Should I be putting the pot in the sun yet? Or should I wait for its first set o leaves?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #589434 - 09/29/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Also, do you think i should fill the pots drip trays with water?
So it doesnt dry out as quickly outdoors?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #589445 - 09/29/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

keeping them in the sun is fine. and just make sure the soil is damp. you dont really need a drip system. if the soil was wet when you planted it shouldnt need a watering until the plants sprout.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: Pernicious]
    #589810 - 10/01/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Big night at the club last night, I ended up sleeping until 1pm, lol
Anyways, when I woke up I noticed it had been raining.
The drip trays under the plant pots were full of water so i removed them from the trays.
Is all that rain water bad for the seeds(too much)?

On a happier note, I've seen the first signs of sprouting on one of the plants.

Two plants in total are starting to sprout :laugh:


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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

Edited by magick81 (10/06/11 04:10 AM)

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #589812 - 10/01/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Should I collect the rainwater? I think I read somewhere that rainwater is good to water with, is that right?

Also, all that stuff you see in the pot is not part of my potting mix.
Its been really windy lately, and there are several large trees surrounding the property. So all the bark, sticks and bits of leaf end up falling into the pot. That shouldnt have any ill effect on my plants, right?


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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

Edited by magick81 (10/01/11 10:30 PM)

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #589856 - 10/02/11 08:35 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

magick81 said:
Should I collect the rainwater? I think I read somewhere that rainwater is good to water with, is that right?






I collect rain water! :thumbup: usually the right ph so yes its a good water to use!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #589962 - 10/02/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cool. Any ideas on the best way to store it? I don't have an aerator.



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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #589987 - 10/02/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I just throw a black rubber made bin outside in the rain let it fill up.  when it stops raining I put a lid on it and put it in the garage.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #590147 - 10/03/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Germination Update

Four out of five plants have broken soil! I wasn't expecting 100% germination so I was quite happy with that.

Anyways, it turns out that I had planted the last one too deep.
I gently dug it out. The seed pod has almost come off, though its stem seems to be lying down from the weight of the soil over it. Hopefully she rights herself up. Fingers crossed for five healthy ladies XxX
But even four puts a smile on my face :laugh:


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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

Edited by magick81 (10/03/11 10:41 PM)

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #590170 - 10/04/11 01:47 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Took my photos down
Sorrys
Being taken with an iphone, the photos were showing the gps locations, lols
I'll have to be more careful in future
Cheers :laugh:


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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
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My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

Edited by magick81 (10/05/11 11:52 PM)

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #590717 - 10/05/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Update. We have 100% Germination.






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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #590720 - 10/06/11 12:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Plant number 4 got off to a rocky start, but it looks like shes doing much better


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591167 - 10/08/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I think they almost doubled in size in the last 2 days. Its amazing watching this fascinating plant grow right before your eyes :smile:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591231 - 10/09/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yeah is crazy how quickly those little buggers pop up.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: Pernicious]
    #591497 - 10/10/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Just watered them now. The plant in the last pic, top left, fell over shortly after watering as if the stem could not support the extra weight of the water :frown:
I propped it upright and added some soil to the pot to stand it up. Come to think of it, all pots soil levels look much lower then when i first planted them. Should I top up the soil in all the other pots?


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My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591516 - 10/10/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Couldn't hurt.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: KaptKid]
    #591581 - 10/11/11 07:47 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well that could be a result of how airy the substrate is anyway. you have alot of sticks in there and the actual dirt could just wash away you know?

and soil compacts on its own anyway. like when i fill a pot to the brim after about a week or two its an inch or so lower.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: Pernicious]
    #591637 - 10/11/11 02:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, i would add a bit of soil as well.  good luck the rest of the way!


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #591696 - 10/11/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, I did notice that when I first planted the seeds, the soil was full to the rim, and now it is so much lower.
So I filled the pots back up to around the rim again.
Also, yesterday I noticed all the plants were showing signs of growing their 2nd set of leaves! Exciting, lol

I broke out the good digicam to try and take some macro shots.
Im not a very good photographer, lol, so it may be a little hard to see. Its real obvious if you zoom in a little though



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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

Edited by magick81 (10/11/11 10:47 PM)

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591697 - 10/11/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)




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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

Edited by magick81 (10/11/11 10:47 PM)

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591698 - 10/11/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I do a lot of photography, try increasing your f stop so that you have depth of field. Also focus a little further in on the plant.

Great grow, can't wait to see what comes of this. Also kinda racing you to see how our plants compare as we grow them.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #591928 - 10/13/11 12:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Tried to get some better pics of the new leaf sites today.
Wire5, I have no idea what that means, lol, I've just got a point-n-shoot camera



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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591930 - 10/13/11 12:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry, when you said fancy camera I got excited and started spouting camera talk.

Basically it means make the hole on the end of the lens (the iris) smaller so it has a higher depth of field (more stuff will be in focus, but requires more light).

My plants look like they are almost exactly on par with yours. What day are you at?

Cant wait to see how they compare side by side. How long do you intend to veg for?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591933 - 10/13/11 12:43 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Lols, I said it like that, since all my posts up unto now were taken with my iphone. I find it easier to upload and share pics on the iphone via photobucket app. Although I've got a Olympus fe4030 which takes much better pics.

Sorry, I have no idea how many days they are at, lol
Are you counting days from when germination started? Or when they sprouted? Dropped seed pods? First one broke soil on October 2nd so I guess that would put them at day 11?

I'm probably gonna veg for 1 month once they are put under the lights in the tent, picking up my tent tomorrow :laugh:


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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591961 - 10/13/11 07:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well those pics came out well man!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: Pernicious]
    #591965 - 10/13/11 07:57 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks Pernicious :laugh:
I love my Olympus. Got it last year for $89 on sale, down from $196. HALF PRICE! Couldn't believe my luck! Prices stayed down so looks like I got it as the prices fell, making way for the newer models :smile:
Got it to take macro shots of my reptiles, though it hasnt gotten much use lately.

I love good photography, and would love to get into the hobby if I could just afford the equipment lol


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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

Edited by magick81 (10/13/11 08:00 AM)

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591982 - 10/13/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ahh, what kind of camera exactly? Power shot (or is that cannons LOL)

Regardless for a point and shot you have some really nice clarity.

On your shoot mode type wheel do you see something that just says "A"?


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See what you think on my first try.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #591996 - 10/13/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Nope, no "A" on it.
Here's a link to some info on my camera model
http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/prod2109.htm
Scroll down to the bottom past all the bs for the specs


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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

Edited by magick81 (10/13/11 11:24 AM)

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592097 - 10/13/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Just picked up my grow tent. Yippee!
It's all finally starting to come together :laugh:

I was able to find a 4x4 mylar tent that is:
a) cheap. Got it for $139
b) Close by. Freight company wanted $45 due to its size and weight. Chucked it in a taxi instead and only cost me $15 and doesn't take 2 working days to deliver, haha, Cheerin! (If I got it posted I wouldn't see it till monday at the absolute earliest)

So its Win/Win!

Anyways, opened it up and saw all the pieces and thought "Fuck it!" I can't be buggered to do it today. I'll get my mate over, order some pizza, get some beers and make a night of it, lol

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592103 - 10/13/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The lens is a little slow for how wide it is. But otherwise not bad. I bet there is an aperture priority mode... Might be admitably a bitch to set up.

Can't wait to see the tent. I thought the same thing about B+W poly and putting the tarp up, and getting the damn foxfarm. I might just go with farfield.


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See what you think on my first try.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592118 - 10/14/11 12:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well its heaps easy to use, with alot of auto-features although I like to turn most of em off unless i know what they do lol
What I was looking for was something that took good macro shots.
And this is what the guy gave me for in my price range. Mind you he was no camera expert. He was a salesman at JB Hifi lol, so he probably had no idea either lol

Just a quick question: When should I start thinking about transplanting to bigger pots. Because the ones they're in are pretty small.
I plan to add 1 part perlite and 3 parts soil.

Thinking about also swapping soil for something finer, as a few people have commented that my soil looks "chunky" lols, any tips on what I should be looking for? If there are any aussies out there, some brand names that are available locally would be good.
Also, what size pot do you guys recommend I transplant into so I won't have to transplant them again? Something to last the rest of their lives.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #592120 - 10/14/11 12:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Finally got the tent together :laugh:
Centrifugal fan sits perfectly into one of the exhaust ports on the roof.

Whats the best way to hang my lights? I got about 3 meters of hanging chain but haven't got a tool to cut it, lol
Can I get a light hanging kit from the hydro shop?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592507 - 10/17/11 02:26 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Got my tent all setup :laugh:
Hung the lights with chains and keyrings lol, at a height of 4ft
Got my 150mm centrifugal fan over one of the exhausts in the roof, covered the other roof exhaust up.
Only thing is the bloody exhaust is loud! Tomorrow, I am gonna run some ducting from the exhaust to the ceiling, hopefully that should make it much quieter and keep the room a little cooler.
I got the tent sitting at 2-3 degrees celcius above the room temp.


Gonna chuck my plants in tomorrow after I finish ducting the exhaust into the roof :smile: Hoping to see a growth spurt after I do, as they are only getting around 14hours of sunlight per day at the moment.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592526 - 10/17/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Got my tent all setup :laugh:
Hung the lights with chains and keyrings lol, at a height of 4ft
Got my 150mm centrifugal fan over one of the exhausts in the roof, covered the other roof exhaust up.
Only thing is the bloody exhaust is loud! Tomorrow, I am gonna run some ducting from the exhaust to the ceiling, hopefully that should make it much quieter and keep the room a little cooler.
I got the tent sitting at 2-3 degrees celcius above the room temp.


Gonna chuck my plants in tomorrow after I finish ducting the exhaust into the roof :smile: Hoping to see a growth spurt after I do, as they are only getting around 14hours of sunlight per day at the moment.

Glad its all coming together finally :laugh:




Nice work man, lookin good! Is you ballast digital or magnetic? since u really should use a MH to vedge the plants with and most digital ballast i've seen run both HPS and MH bulbs... also if your using a 400w bulb it shouldn't be higher than about 15-20 inchs from the plant, less if temps aren't an issue. your should get yourself a pair of these light hangers, i got some they work great makes adjusting the height real easy, this link is a canadian hydro store, but i'm sure you can find them in any decent hydro shop local to you. http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=sunlift


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #592610 - 10/17/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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also if your using a 400w bulb it shouldn't be higher than about 15-20 inchs from the plant,





recommended distance from the plant on a 400w hps or mh is 4 ft because of the heat it gives out.

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These are a great idea!  I like these ones better though.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #592619 - 10/17/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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also if your using a 400w bulb it shouldn't be higher than about 15-20 inchs from the plant,





recommended distance from the plant on a 400w hps or mh is 4 ft because of the heat it gives out.

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should get yourself a pair of these light hangers





These are a great idea!  I like these ones better though.




Well that may be the recommended distance, doesn't mean its right LOL you can put your hand 6 inch's away from a 400w and not get too hot. i will say i'm using an air cooled refelctor, but when i did my first tent grow i had 2 non air cooled 400w hps bulbs and they where never higher than 20 inchs from the tops of the plants. and with proper air movement your babies won't get burned. I found the only real problem was the ambient temp in my tent.(which had nothing to do with distance to your plants) thats why i went to a 1000w air cooled. right now my 1000w dual arc bulb is 1 1/2 feet from my plants and they are more than happy, but again its in a air cooled refelctor... 

I saw those hangers at my local grow store along with the ones i bought, i liked the ones i got better as they don't require more than one hand to adjust the refectors height, those you listed need to be manually set, the ones i listed are spring loaded. But thats a matter of prefrence, they both do the job and yours are cheaper lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #592633 - 10/17/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I got myself a set of yoyo's to hang my lights from. I love how easy they are to adjust. Just lower or raise the lights. Like magick! :laugh:

Anyways, I've got them about 20 inches from the tops of my plants. Gonna keep a close eye on it and monitor temps. What should be the max temp at the plants level? I set a temp probe between 2 pots so the probe is sticking up in the air. It's at 29 degrees celcius at the moment, although I'm keeping an eye on it in case it goes much higher.

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    #592634 - 10/17/11 11:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592636 - 10/17/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Temp was at 30o celcius and still rising by the looks of it, so I raised the lights to 4ft :frown:

I might look at investing in a cooltube next payday. Another fan is out of the question as the centrifugal I'm running is as loud as buggery! Can't believe one of the selling points of it was it was a few decibels quieter lol
I reckon running 2 at once would sound like a vacuum cleaner running all day and night lol

I ducted the exhaust into the ceiling, and wrapped the fan and most of the ducting with a doona. It helped somewhat, but is still quite loud.

Anyways, since raising the lights to 4ft, the temp at the height of the soil is 29o celcius and seems to be steady at that temp.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592639 - 10/17/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Oh yeah, I think I need to water soon. I think I read that watering with the lights on can burn the plants, is that right?

If so, whens the best time to water? Before the lights come on? Or after they switch off?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592644 - 10/18/11 12:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Also, does my centrifugal fan need to be on 24/7?
Its rather loud and I would like to have it off during the dark period for stealth.
I can put an oscilating fan in there 24/7, the centrifugal is just too loud

lols, sorry for the quadruple-post :wink:
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592654 - 10/18/11 06:23 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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got me some of those too! they rock!


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    #592655 - 10/18/11 06:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Oh yeah, I think I need to water soon. I think I read that watering with the lights on can burn the plants, is that right?

If so, whens the best time to water? Before the lights come on? Or after they switch off?




You won't burn your plants if you water with the lights on, i think your refering to spraying plants with the light on. Also you can lower the light again, just make sure you have a fan blowing onto the plants, that will stop them from burning, just use your common sence, if you can't keep your hand at the plant height cuz it gets too hot then the lights too close!


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #592727 - 10/18/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the tip Hempmaster :laugh:
I will add a fan in there when I get home and lower the lights.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592735 - 10/18/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Added another fan blowing over the plants. Lights are now 18 inches above plants.
Since yesterday I can see the growth difference :laugh:


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    #592753 - 10/19/11 12:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Added another fan blowing over the plants. Lights are now 18 inches above plants.
Since yesterday I can see the growth difference :laugh:




glad i could be of some help. really you want to keep the lights as close as possible to keep the plant from stretching too much, with the lights closer u get a shorter inter-node length, which generally translates to better and bigger flower formation and growth. though some strains naturally grow taller than others, most sativa strains tend to grow taller even if the light is close to the canopy, while most indicas stay shorter. though i'm doing AK47 right now and it has 90% sativa genetics from what i have read but the plants stay very short, so u should always know the characteristics(did i spell that right? lol) of the strain u'r growing. Also if your still having a noise issue with your inline fan u should try adding ducting to the intake side aswell and hanging the fan inside the tent rather than on the top if the vent holes, i read this can lower the noise. I have a 4' Canfan in my 5x5x7 tent and its not too loud, though its connected to my carbon filter, if u check out my current grow u can see what i'm talking about, theres a link in my signature. Oh and if your looking into aircooled reflectors u should check out the Coolstar line of refelectors, their my favs as i own one lol

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #592755 - 10/19/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the advice.
If I were to suspend the exhaust fan inside the vent what would be the best way? Cables ties?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592757 - 10/19/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #592759 - 10/19/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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You won't burn your plants if you water with the lights on, i think your refering to spraying plants with the light on. Also you can lower the light again, just make sure you have a fan blowing onto the plants, that will stop them from burning, just use your common sence, if you can't keep your hand at the plant height cuz it gets too hot then the lights too close!




Yeah you were right. In that case, if misting with the lights on will burn the plants, whats the best way to mist?
Once I start on nutes I plan on using Dutch Masters Penetrator and Liquid Light Foliar sprays. Should I mist them just after lights out? Or should I raise the lights after misting? Whats the best way/time to mist/spray?

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592762 - 10/19/11 01:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks for the advice.
If I were to suspend the exhaust fan inside the vent what would be the best way? Cables ties?





I used the nylon straps that came with my tent, u can see a pic of it in my journal, but anything that will hold it inplace without slipping will work. my buddy used string and duct tape.. lol it worked fine and was cheap. Does your fan have a mounting bracket on it? if it does then you can just hang it with screws and wire or nylon string, if it doesn't like mine u have to be a bit more creative. you just have to make sure its secure, don't want the thing falling onto  you plants mid way through your grow lol..you can just wrap nylon rope around the middle of the fan and then add duct tape to make sure it doesn't slip off the fan and hang it on part of the tents frame. if you have a bracket on it cable ties would probably work fine as long as their the heavy duty ones..off topic, I'm wondering what type of system are you going to put your plants into? soil? soiless? hydro? DWC?

wow man, just had a bad reality check, i'm on my last spliff from my last crop LOL ack...and its gonna be another 10 weeks b4 i'm done my current one... :frown:

Oh and about misting, its best to do it right b4 the light goes off. but you can do it right when it comes on as it usually evaporates b4 the temps in the tent get high.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592768 - 10/19/11 02:49 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the info.

I'll just be using soil this time. Gonna mix it with some perlite.
Maybe after I've had a successful grow or two I will try hydro or DWC.

Also, I plan to do some LST'ing along with some fim'ing to train my plants. I'd  like to try scrog but I think I'll wait till after i got more experience also.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592867 - 10/19/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Who knew that the last seed to pop and sprout would be the biggest of her sisters?!? They seem to be loving there new home under the 400w light.

Tried getting a macro pic but it kept coming out blurry, nowhere near as good as my last macro pics :frown: I'm guessing it came out this way because of my unsteady hand, and not as much light indoors.
Anyways, here it is


I'm gonna play with some of the camera options to see if i can get a clearer pic

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592887 - 10/19/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



When do you recommend I transplant them. Also, I think i'll need to start feeding nutes soon, right?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592898 - 10/19/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thats about where mine were when I transfered.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592915 - 10/19/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

OK thanks.
A little apprehensive about transplanting them, as ive never done it before. Any tips?

I want to transplant into square pots big enough to last the remainder of the grow. Will a 2 (U.S) gallon pot be sufficient for each plant? That would be 7.5 litres. Mixed with 20% perlite.

What do you think?

Also, I'm assuming I shouldn't start feeding nutes until the plants have recovered from the shock of transplanting? How long would that be in general?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592941 - 10/19/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

When I transplanted them I learned I need a few things: A bucket for old soil, A bowl that your pot will be filled in (to catch spillage I did mine indoor), a bucket with water to rinse your roots off (if yours are like mine they'll hold a ton of gunk) and a towel for your hands.

I don't know sizes, I just got the deepest 6" pots i could find, saddly they were round.

I ended up using more soil than I thought I would. I ended up taking longer than I thought.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #593222 - 10/21/11 02:19 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Setup is practically complete.
I moved the centrifugal inside the tent. The nylon straps would have ripped out if I tried to use them to hold the fan, so instead I screwed the brackets on, then hung them off the tents frame with some hanging chain.


Also, I noticed that the vent I was using had lots of airleaks, and 2 of the plasterboard screws were coming loose, not sure why.

As my mates dad says, there is nothing that duct tape cannot fix, lol


I know it is better to have the ducting going straight, but I prefer to have it like this, it gives me some leeway to move the tent around the room without it pulling the vent outta the ceiling.

Next week I'm gonna get a carbon filter on my payday.
I figured I can take the twist outta the ducting when installing the filter, if it really needs it.
I might also glue the vent into place with some liquid nails.

Since moving the fan into the tent and sealing most of the airleaks with ducttape, it is much quieter than it was before. Thanks for the tip Hempmaster :thumbup:


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    #593268 - 10/21/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Since moving the fan into the tent and sealing most of the airleaks with ducttape, it is much quieter than it was before. Thanks for the tip Hempmaster :thumbup:




Glad i could help. Setups coming together nicely man, did u transplant your babies into larger pots yet?? pics,pics we want pics lol


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    #593274 - 10/21/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #593370 - 10/21/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Since moving the fan into the tent and sealing most of the airleaks with ducttape, it is much quieter than it was before. Thanks for the tip Hempmaster :thumbup:




Glad i could help. Setups coming together nicely man, did u transplant your babies into larger pots yet?? pics,pics we want pics lol





Nah not yet. Unfortunately I spent the last of my grow dollars on some ducting. Will have to wait until next weekend unless I wanna be eating cardboard for the rest of the week lol
Plan to get some soil and pots on payday and i'll update once I do.

Oh, btw, while at the shops I found a PH kit for $12. Includes PH test drops, PH up and PH down. Only thing is that its a kit for an aquarium.
Can I use it to adjust my water/nute solution before watering?
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Nah not yet. Unfortunately I spent the last of my grow dollars on some ducting. Will have to wait until next weekend unless I wanna be eating cardboard for the rest of the week lol
Plan to get some soil and pots on payday and i'll update once I do.

Oh, btw, while at the shops I found a PH kit for $12. Includes PH test drops, PH up and PH down. Only thing is that its a kit for an aquarium.
Can I use it to adjust my water/nute solution before watering?
I assume if its fish safe, it should be plant safe too, right?




Yes it will work fine, if u look on ebay u can get a PH meter for as little as $15, same for a PPM meter.. though shipping is usually as costly as the item itself lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #593380 - 10/21/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cool. I already have a soil PH test kit. So I can use this one to adjust ph before watering.

Anyways, it seems some of my smaller plants haven't grown much since being moved into the tent. Stress of being moved from outdoors to indoors? Or maybe they've reached their max size in these little pots?

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #593392 - 10/21/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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it seems some of my smaller plants haven't grown much since being moved into the tent. Stress of being moved from outdoors to indoors? Or maybe they've reached their max size in these little pots?

Or maybe I keep looking at them too often I'm not noticing the changes lol




i would think that is the case, also vedging requires more blue light than red, and HPS bulbs produce mostly red light. Thats why ppl use a MH for vedging since their are mostly blue light. since u have them under a HPS they will take longer to grow to the size you wish to flower at. and u should move them into the pot size u will keep them in till they mature. and looking at them too often will make u think their not growing lol my advice to u is if u check them lots of times a day, get a measuring tape and measure them 1 time a day so u can compare from day to day and you'll see they are growing lol  I remember my very first grow, i think i checked my plants about 50 times a day lol and it seemed to take forever for them to grow, it didn't in reality, just felt that way cuz i was so pre-occupided with them...lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #593396 - 10/21/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

lols, I know what you mean.
When they first sprouted when the pots were outdoors, I would check on them many times a day, lol.
After a couple of weeks I sometimes wouldn't check on them for 1 or 2 days at a time.
Now they've been moved into the tent its seems the cycle has restarted, hehe
I'm sure after a week or two, I will only be checking them once every 1 or 2 days.

I like to take lots of photo's and compare, but you've given me a good idea. I think I'll start taking measurements once a day and keep a record of it. That way I don't feel like they aren't growing.

I remember moving in with my last gf. After six months, I looked at a 6 month old photo of her and thought to myself, "where the hell did all that fat come from?" lols

Maybe I shouldn't have posted that, I'm expecting to get flamed by some ladies now, bring on the inferno lol

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i would think that is the case, also vedging requires more blue light than red, and HPS bulbs produce mostly red light. Thats why ppl use a MH for vedging since their are mostly blue light.




Maybe after I start my new job, I might buy myself a digital ballast.
In the meantime, are there cfl's I could add to my setup to give it the right spectrum.
When I was doing my research before I started growing, ppl said that because I'm on a budget I should just get HPS. They told me my stems wouldn't be as thick compared to MH, and the difference in yield was as little as 10%.
At least thats what somebody posted on my thread at drugs-forum, and is the reason I only got HPS.
If I had known they would veg slower with a HPS, I wouldn't have gone the same path.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #593428 - 10/22/11 07:19 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've done some online window shopping, and have found these MH bulbs that are designed to work with HPS ballasts. It is a: SUNMASTER 400 WATT RETRO CONVERSION HPS TO MH LAMP and works out cheaper than buying another ballast and bulb. It's $70 from my local store though I can probably find a cheaper one if I shop around.

Anyone got any experience with these bulbs? Any cons? Would I be better off buying a MH or digital ballast instead of using one of these bulbs in my setup.

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Never mind.
I've just read that they use much more energy due to the conversion process and put out less lumens.
So'll I'll probably just go with a digital ballast or a MH ballast. Time will tell :wink:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #593497 - 10/22/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I've just read that they use much more energy due to the conversion process and put out less lumens.
So'll I'll probably just go with a digital ballast or a MH ballast. Time will tell :wink:




Its best to get the digital, saves u from needing an entire new reflector and removing the MH kit for HPS when flowering and vice versa, when all u have to switch is the bulb is will save time and aggravation lol plus then you could sell your current HPS ballast and make a bit o $$ back.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #593557 - 10/22/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



Ok I went out and got the PH testing and correcting kit.
We have a water filter hooked up to our kitchen sink. Tested the PH. It was hard to tell the difference but it read either 6.6 or 6.8. A light green colour.

Also tested the water straight outta the regular tap, no filter. It went blue which would lead me to believe it was at least 7.2-7.4

I was surprised with the difference seeing as we haven't replaced the filter media in the filter for a few years, lol, I expected the filtered water to be the same as the regular water.

I have been watering with the regular water straight outta the tap. PH is too high.

Should I:
a) Start watering with the water from the filter, is the PH close enough
or
b) Use the PH down to adjust the waters PH. I think around 6.5 is whats wanted right?

On a happier note, I was dreading the approaching summer, worried my plants would get cooked, dreading the cost of buying an aircon unit. Anyways we had a scorcher of a day today, and the plants did not go above 34o c.
Thank god for insulation, lol
The room with the tent was still higher then the other rooms in the house, but I was expecting to get 40o in that room. The room was on 31o, Quite happy about that :laugh:

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #593571 - 10/23/11 12:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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did not go above 34o c.
Thank god for insulation, lol
The room with the tent was still higher then the other rooms in the house, but I was expecting to get 40o in that room. The room was on 31o, Quite happy about that :laugh:




34c is a bit on the hot side, was that with the tent open? either way make sure you have lots of fans on your plants. the best thing to do is have the light off during the day and only on in the later evening when it starts to get cooler. my light goes off at 10am and on at 4pm during vedging so its off during the hottest part of the day.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #593583 - 10/23/11 02:25 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Tent was closed. Although today was a scorcher, I reckon it was nearly 40o outside. Maybe I'm exagerating a little, but while we were driving i could see heat waves rising from the road lol.
Thank god for aircon in cars. If the costs of power go down, I'd love to get AC for the house. But Sydney power pricing just keeps getting higher its rediculous!

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either way make sure you have lots of fans on your plants. the best thing to do is have the light off during the day and only on in the later evening when it starts to get cooler. my light goes off at 10am and on at 4pm during vedging so its off during the hottest part of the day.




That's what I planned to do when summer came.
Although summer is not due to start until December.
If it keeps up and looks like an early summer as we have had the past few years, I'll switch the lighting cycle to be off during the hottest part of the day.


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    #593585 - 10/23/11 02:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yea man wanna try keep the room hovering around 26, though I will say it was hot as shit today, and that's down here in Melb so Syd must have been way worse


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    #593586 - 10/23/11 03:16 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Yea man wanna try keep the room hovering around 26, though I will say it was hot as shit today, and that's down here in Melb so Syd must have been way worse




cool man, no pun intended lol i'm from canada, so we are going into winter, i just draw cool air in from my window through 10 feet of ducting. Most weed can handle those temps, just not for days on end or you'll get stunted growth, most strains i have grown are fine up to 32c ambient temp, but its not ideal....25-30c is best. still i'm sure you'll be ok, just keep them fans going and open the tent if it gets too hot.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #593698 - 10/23/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

My dark period was from 2am to 8am.
Last night I left them on during the normal dark period, and they will turn off today from 10am till 4pm. Looks like it's gonna be another hot one today.
It's funny, the last 5 or 10 years summer has been coming early.
If it is an early summer, it's 2 months earlier.
Man we've really fucked the planet up lol
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    #593699 - 10/23/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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My dark period was from 2am to 8am.
Last night I left them on during the normal dark period, and they will turn off today from 10am till 4pm. Looks like it's gonna be another hot one today.
It's funny, the last 5 or 10 years summer has been coming early.
If it is an early summer, it's 2 months earlier.
Man we've really fucked the planet up lol
Anyways, it's my first day at my new job. Been out of work for almost 2 years for health reasons, wish me luck on my first day :smile:




Good luck man! i know how ya feel haven't been workin in just over a year, because i went back to school, i finish the first week of next month....can't wait to start workn again....though school turned out to be fun, hadn't been in a class room in 17 yrs lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #593820 - 10/24/11 04:47 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

2 out of 5 plants were looking droopy and wilted when i came home from work.
Not sure if it was from all the extra heat today or if they are thirsty.
Anyways, I gave them a water.
I also raised the lights a little bit and kept the tent open for a while.
Moved them closer to the fan also.
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    #593851 - 10/24/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

looks like they may be thirsty, hope their lookin better next time u check!


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #594047 - 10/25/11 02:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Checked the plants when I got home from work today.
Smaller plant seems to have perked up.
The larger plant, which is pictured in the previous post, still looks the same.
I thought maybe it didn't get enough water, so I watered it a little more.
Today was much cooler today, and the tent temp did not go over 25o celcius.
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594084 - 10/25/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Looks more like the beginning of a ph problem.  when you fuck up the ph on your plants they tend to curl up like that, but usually more, so if that IS a problem, it's not as severe as it could be.  That last one pictured there also looks really light green, like there's a nutrient deficiency there, but i can't be sure because of the light that's shining on it.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #594088 - 10/25/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Magick, I know you said you were having a hard time telling with watering. A good trick I've learned (and my meter seems to agree), is to stick your finger into the pot up to the first (second if you have a bigger pot) knuckle than pull it out. Depending on the way it feels and the clingage is how wet your soil is.

I have 6" round pots (tall guys too) and I usually do it to half way between the two knuckles. If I pull my finger out and it feels kinda dry still, and there are just a couple little bits of dirt clining to it than I know it will need to be watered.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #594113 - 10/25/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks guys.
From what I've seen from other grows, most people don't have trouble with nutes or ph until the plants are older. I will check my soils ph when I get home.
Also I thought my plant was too small to be adding nutes.
I'll look into it when I get hint from work tonight.

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    #594135 - 10/25/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks guys.
From what I've seen from other grows, most people don't have trouble with nutes or ph until the plants are older. I will check my soils ph when I get home.
Also I thought my plant was too small to be adding nutes.
I'll look into it when I get hint from work tonight.

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if you'r hydro,PH and PPM is easily adjustable/fixable... soil, as far as i know is harder to fix if you F up in feeding....but thats just MY opinion....lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #594151 - 10/25/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I haven't started feeding nutes yet.
If it is a nute deficiency, obviously I'd need too feed nutes to correct it.
The only nutes I have at the moment is fish emulsion. Do you think it would help?

Also, I wont be able to buy any nutes till for another 2 days.
Will the plant last that long? I'd hate to lose my biggest girl :frown:

I'm also wondering why the other smaller plants aren't affected, they all seem fine and have all gotten the exact same treatment???


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #594154 - 10/25/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Looks more like the beginning of a ph problem.  when you fuck up the ph on your plants they tend to curl up like that, but usually more, so if that IS a problem, it's not as severe as it could be.  That last one pictured there also looks really light green, like there's a nutrient deficiency there, but i can't be sure because of the light that's shining on it.




The cOlours of the leafs are much lighter and close to yellow.
So it is probably nute deficiency. I'll have to do some research when I get home to figure out which one I need :frown:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594173 - 10/26/11 02:40 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ok gang,
Here's the latest news.
I performed a PH test on the soil of the plant pictured above.
First test read 6.75. Second test was 6.5. Although the soil was still damp from the water I gave last night which had a ph of around 6.5.

Anyways, on closer inspection, the cotyledons have turned yellow and are curling a little. One of them has a darker brownish tip(not very dark, I almost mistook it for a shadow).
The next 2 leaves up, which are the biggest are green close at the stem, but seems to fade into an almost yellow colour by the end of the tip .

I will add some pictures later to see what you guys think, but after checking the deficiency photos, I'm thinking it is probably Nitrogen deficiency.

I haven't started feeding nutes yet, but plan to give it some fish emulsion.

Also, since my other plants are not far behind this plant, i should probably start feeding nutes now, right?

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594174 - 10/26/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)



Unfortunately, I could not get any clear pictures of the cotyledons

Anyways, I just fed all my plants with half strength nutes.
That Pics of nute deficiency thread says that after adding nitrogen, plant should improve within 4-5 days.
I've got my fingers crossed xXx

I get paid on Friday, I will go out and get the things I need so I can transplant them into bigger pots with better substrate (Debco Premium Potting mix I've been told is the locally available brand I should use) and mixed with some perlite. Also, should I consider adding some dolomite lime to the mix to control the PH?
What do you guys use to control your PH when growing in soil?

I think my soil is probably whats causing my problems. When watering, I notice the water will sit in a pool for a while before it actually starts to drain a few seconds later. I think mixing the perlite should hopefully fix this.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594430 - 10/27/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Plant 4 has just started showing symptoms ;( I'm starting to get worried
Am I doing the right thing?
I might start a doctors thread when I get home from work tonight.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594433 - 10/27/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Plant 4 has just started showing symptoms ;( I'm starting to get worried
Am I doing the right thing?
I might start a doctors thread when I get home from work tonight.




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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #594576 - 10/28/11 11:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well hopefully they pull through.
The Diagnosis chart says if it is a nitrogen deficiency, they should improve in 3-5 days after feeding nutes.

So I'll just have to wait and see.
If they don't make it through, I just ordered some good quality seeds.
They cost just a little over $100 for 10 seeds. I'm hoping it really is a case of "you get what you pay for", since those chemdogs only cost me $33.00

The strain I got is "T.H Seeds - Heavy Duty Fruity".
It sounds really good on the website. I'll also be watching FurrowedBrows grow log to see how his turn out

I probably won't update my log for a few days, till after I know what is going on with my plants,hopefully I won't have to change it into a dying log, lols.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594578 - 10/29/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I just checked my plants just then.
It looks like it has exploded in growth just overnight after feeding it nutes. Hopefully that is a good sign that the plant is recovering, its growth seemed stunted when it ran into the nitrogen deficiency.
I'm a little happier that they seem to be doing better.
Their wilted large leaves are also not as droopy, and seem a little greener and perkier
:trollmove:

I know I said I wouldn't update, but i think theyre doing better, and have grown since my last photo upload
I think its worthy of a photo update, lol

Day 27


Thinking they may pull through I'm wishing I didn't spend $120 to get new seeds delivered lols.
We'll I reckon I've got about $50 left, to go get new pots, soil and some perlite. Hopefully it'll stretch enough to get everything.
I plan to get 25litre bag of potting mix and about 5Litres of perlite.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594621 - 10/29/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I just checked my plants just then.
It looks like it has exploded in growth just overnight after feeding it nutes. Hopefully that is a good sign that the plant is recovering, its growth seemed stunted when it ran into the nitrogen deficiency.
I'm a little happier that they seem to be doing better.
Their wilted large leaves are also not as droopy, and seem a little greener and perkier
:trollmove:

I know I said I wouldn't update, but i think theyre doing better, and have grown since my last photo upload
I think its worthy of a photo update, lol

Day 27


Thinking they may pull through I'm wishing I didn't spend $120 to get new seeds delivered lols.
We'll I reckon I've got about $50 left, to go get new pots, soil and some perlite. Hopefully it'll stretch enough to get everything.
I plan to get 25litre bag of potting mix and about 5Litres of perlite.

Am I missing anything? What else might I need to buy for transplanting into bigger pots?




Good to see their doing better now, man those seeds are expensive, especially for non femmed seeds....i just got 10 regular orange bud seeds for $38 including shipping. check out this site for a good selection and great prices. I've ordered from them 3 times without problems.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #594622 - 10/29/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

They're lookin good. Can't wait. You've run into nutrient problems, I've run into physical problems. Cats and my lights fell AGAIN......


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #594677 - 10/29/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the kind words guys
As for the seeds, yes they are expensive, but I think they'll be worth it. It puts out commercial quantities while still being very potent.  That's what I've read anyways.

Anyways, another day has passed and I can't wait to check them again, lol, this is about the time that they start to take off right?
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594694 - 10/29/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Lot's of growth and theyre bouncing back from the nitrogen deficiency quite nicely. A lush green colour seems to be returning to the leaves. Also while taking photo's I noticed a slight aroma of dank. My girls are starting to get smelly! I'll have to get that carbon scrubber this payday.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594697 - 10/30/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

DAY 28 Photo Update

Group shot in tent


Plant 1, The Biggest



Plant 2



Plant 3



Plant 4



Plant 5



Hope you enjoyed the photos :laugh:

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594702 - 10/30/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Just a question about feeding nutes. They were started on half strength nutes. Now I only feed nutes once a week right? And just straight water until they are due for the next feeding, correct?

Also, any precautions to take when switching from the fish emulsion to the Dutch master grow nutes?

Also, do you guys think my plants look old enough to start LST? I haven't decided if I'm gonna scrog these plants or to wait till my next grow when I got more experience, but I definitely wanna try LST either way. If I LST these plants, I can still scrog em right?

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594843 - 10/31/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I started mine on half strength, now they receive just under full strength fish fert. And I don't feed mine on a weekly schedual I usually do every other big watering with fertilizer, (which comes out to every 6 days or once a week LOL) individual plants will receive top ups in between as needed.

As for your other questions. I dunno  :shrug: , I did have to top one of my plants but it seems to be rather unphased after a good watering and a few days.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #594848 - 10/31/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

things are lookin good man, since this is your first time doing this u might want to just let them grow normal, or try just lst'ing one of them.  it will give you valuable experience without risking much.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #594854 - 10/31/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks HempMaster

If it weren't for you I would have had my lights 1.5 ft higher lol, and would have very stretchy plants. I'm real happy with the way they are looking, I guess thats what you meant by having tight internodes.

I've done heaps of research on LST and think I'm confident to try it. Also my mate will be coming round to give me a hand with it. He's no expert, but he's had one successful grow with LST.

I do plan to run an experiment though, so those plants will be untouched.
Gonna grow 2 similar sized plants side by side, 1 with Dutch Master Nutes, the other with organics such as Fish Emulsion and Kelp Fertilizer.
Just to see the difference in size, yield and smoke. So that way I know which way I'll want to go with these HeavyDutyFruitys that are on the way.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594857 - 10/31/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks HempMaster

If it weren't for you I would have had my lights 1.5 ft higher lol, and would have very stretchy plants. I'm real happy with the way they are looking, I guess thats what you meant by having tight internodes.

I've done heaps of research on LST and think I'm confident to try it. Also my mate will be coming round to give me a hand with it. He's no expert, but he's had one successful grow with LST.

I do plan to run an experiment though, so those plants will be untouched.
Gonna grow 2 similar sized plants side by side, 1 with Dutch Master Nutes, the other with organics such as Fish Emulsion and Kelp Fertilizer.
Just to see the difference in size, yield and smoke. So that way I know which way I'll want to go with these HeavyDutyFruitys that are on the way.




Sounds like a plan man, from what i've herd you'd have to really fuck up to kill a plant when doing LST, so i'm sure you'll be fine. Think i may build a scrog frame for my next go around after this one. as is i'm gonna flower my clones right after they take root without more than a week of vedging/getting used to the table...will be a low yield this time around but thats ok. just wanna see what i will get if i flower right after rooting. plus i want all my clones to come from only one mother plant in the end so the growth and flower time is totally uniform.
My last crop was from 12 femmed seeds and 1/2 grew at the same rate and the rest where slightly diff genomes i guess so they grew out of sync with the rest....you should consider taking a clone off your healthiest female and using it as a mother plant so u don't need to mess with sexing seeds when u wanna do another crop, just cut the clones and they root in a couple weeks and away u go!


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #594866 - 10/31/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I did think of cloning all my plants, then picking out the best smoke and using that as a mother. The only problem I had with that idea is growing from clone takes longer doesn't it? Longer than growing from seeds I mean. And I think I may have read that they grow smaller also? I can't really recall though, so maybe I'm imagining that last fact lol

I guess after my first harvest, It won't really matter, I won't be in a hurry for another one. How much longer does it take to grow from clones?

On a shitty note, I just noticed that a plant has a small hole in one leaf, and is yellowing/thinning on another. I've started a thread in the Doctors forum here, worried they might be mites :eek:
I hope not! Send some mojo & good vibes my way, that way it'll turn out to be nothing lol

Heres some pics. Btw, I zoomed in on the photo's. Are those trich's I can see already? :laugh:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594875 - 10/31/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah I did think of cloning all my plants, then picking out the best smoke and using that as a mother. The only problem I had with that idea is growing from clone takes longer doesn't it? Longer than growing from seeds I mean. And I think I may have read that they grow smaller also? I can't really recall though, so maybe I'm imagining that last fact lol




Its faster to clone than to start from seed for sure, with a good cloner u can root a cutting in as little as 6 or 7 days depending on the strain. then plant it and after it gets used to what ever medium your growing in (usually about a week)your off to the races. also if you have a very stable strain(genetics wise) you pretty much get a exact copy of the plant u took it from, they generally grow at the same rate and way, as long as the conditions are the same. One side note though, u should start moms from non feminized seeds, as i have herd that your mom can go funny on ya and start giving hemi clones. i haven't experienced this myself yet, but this is the first time i will be cloning from a femmed plant/seed. so i guess i'll find out lol

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On a shitty note, I just noticed that a plant has a small hole in one leaf, and is yellowing/thinning on another. I've started a thread in the Doctors forum here, worried they might be mites :eek:
I hope not! Send some mojo & good vibes my way, that way it'll turn out to be nothing lol




My prayers are with you man! :headbanger:

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Heres some pics. Btw, I zoomed in on the photo's. Are those trich's I can see already? :laugh:








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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #595194 - 11/02/11 06:30 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hi friends,
Since feeding with nutes (fish emulsion) the leaves have turn into a lush green. Only thing is that the lower leaves are still quite pale/yellowish. Will the green return over time? Or is there still something wrong with my babies?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595240 - 11/02/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Hi friends,
Since feeding with nutes (fish emulsion) the leaves have turn into a lush green. Only thing is that the lower leaves are still quite pale/yellowish. Will the green return over time? Or is there still something wrong with my babies?




I would just cut off the sick leaves as long as you have a couple sets of healthy ones above them. Some times the leaves just don't recover even if the plant returns to full health.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #595242 - 11/02/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Cools.
Anyways, just got my first paycheck from my new job, much larger than i anticipated lols
Anyways, I'm going shopping tomorrow.

Gonna get some Dutch Master Gold Grow nutes, as well as the things I'll need to transplant the little ladies.
Anyways, I've noticed more insects in my soil, so tiny that you can barely see them, like tiny ants :frown:

I'm considering switching to a soiless mix. Can this be done mid-grow?
Or maybe even a DWC? If I can find an affordable one is australia.
Besides, 3 of my plants seem stunted. What I mean is there are new leaves growing, but the plants aren't getting any taller. Midgets lol. Maybe if I can control its environment more I might have more luck.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595244 - 11/02/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Also about to place another seed order, haha
Any recomendations? Attitude has so many different brands, I'm lost lol
Anyone ever try KC Brains Danky Doodle?
Strains already in my shopping cart are:
Kalashnikova (AK47 x White Widow)
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595253 - 11/02/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

There were a few from barny's farm I wanted to try (namely LSD and Red Dragon). Let me know what you think with whatever you order.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #595256 - 11/02/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i always recommend getting a good old school strain, usually their alot cheaper, always stable genetics, and the weed is just as potent...like Norther Lights #5 or Skunk #1, super skunk is nice too..i just got some Orange Bud seeds, its real nice smoke and has a good yield. Bud bud is great if you want potency and yield. I'd say try Northern lights #5 or big bud... they are great smoke and since their almost pure indicas they make great plants to breed with.

I've herd good things about Vanilla Kush, Pineapple Kush and Pineapple chunk...but haven't personally tried any of them.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #595268 - 11/02/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Order over 20 pounds worth between 4th n 9th of nov u get extra free seeds, pineapple chunk being one of them. I think they're all cannabis cup winners. I'll be delaying before I put my order thru :smile:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595332 - 11/02/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Order over 20 pounds worth between 4th n 9th of nov u get extra free seeds, pineapple chunk being one of them. I think they're all cannabis cup winners. I'll be delaying before I put my order thru :smile:




cool, think i might check it out.  So how yer plants doing?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #595372 - 11/03/11 03:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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So how yer plants doing?



Not well :frown:
I've got one IMO which is doing excellently (plant 1 in last photo update) and another one which I think is just above average (plant 2).

The other 3 are below average in my opinion. Still very small & short, though they are growing new leaf sites and new leaves. I've just fed with full strength fish emulsion. Hopefully this dose will be enough to carry it through till next feeding.

When repotting, I'm thinking of switching to soiless, or maybe even hydro. Are there any things I need to beware of if doing the switch on my plants mid veg? At least that way I'd be able to control the PH and nutes much easier. I think I might start a separate thread asking the question, but if your here, and have any useful info, it would really be appreciated.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595376 - 11/03/11 03:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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When repotting, I'm thinking of switching to soiless, or maybe even hydro. Are there any things I need to beware of if doing the switch on my plants mid veg? At least that way I'd be able to control the PH and nutes much easier. I think I might start a separate thread asking the question, but if your here, and have any useful info, it would really be appreciated.




at worst you will shock the plant a small amount, but its the same as transplanting it to a larger pot in soil so no worries really.

Your best bet at this time IMO would be to switch to soiless, do what i did with perlite and peatmoss or use something like ProMix BX if available. also you will need a PPM meter, and a PH meter as they are more accurate that test strips. i found both on ebay for about 20 bucks each. but other than that its pretty much the same as growing in soil, just the nutes go into your water, and the soiless mix is generally PH neutral. Ph water to 6.5, PPM depends on the stage of growth of the plant.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #595704 - 11/04/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Just placed another attitude order, getting more frrebies than paid seeds lol

Ordered a Dinafem 3 pack

Freebies are:

Dinafem Critical Jack Auto
Dinafem White Widow

2 x DNA Genetics LA Confidential Regular
1 x Barneys Farm Pineapple Chunk Feminized
1 x Green House Seeds Super Lemon Haze Feminized
UFO#1 CH9 Female Seeds Critical Mass 33
Bought 3 seeds getting 7 free
lols
Got the mug this time, hope the shirt i got on my last order is something I would actually wear lol

On a side note, I broke something on my tent lol
My tent has two bars that go across to hang the lights from.
One of them was also supporting the weight of my fan. I was keen to open the tent to check on my plants after their feed and tugged the tent door when opening and the bracket holding the bar up snapped lol

The fan is fine, its being held up by all the ductape I used to tape it to the ducting. I duct-taped the bar back up, haha, not a very good job though lol. Today I plan to just get rid of that bar and hang my lights off just one bar instead. I might hit up the seller I got it from and see if he will replace it.


Anyways peeked at my sleeping plants with a torch, it looks like they had another growth spurt since feeding woohoo!
Cheers
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--EDIT--
The bar came down again lol.
Hope my lights didnt bang against the side when it  did.
Anyways, had to attach the lights to the one good bar left in the dark, haha, what fun!


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595711 - 11/04/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

God my local hydro shop is dumb lol.
They didnt know what DWC was. I told them it stood for Deep water culture and they were still puzzled.

Today I asked if they sold any soiless mixes, they began to list off all their grow mediums. When I asked for a prepackaged mix they looked at me like i was crazy lol

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595715 - 11/04/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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God my local hydro shop is dumb lol.
They didnt know what DWC was. I told them it stood for Deep water culture and they were still puzzled.

Today I asked if they sold any soiless mixes, they began to list off all their grow mediums. When I asked for a prepackaged mix they looked at me like i was crazy lol

Australia must really be behind when it comes to hydro lol




lol that is odd, but if you can find bags of perlite and peatmoss you can make your own. or any coco product. You can make your own DWC system real cheap too. Just have to be a bit handy with tools.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #595721 - 11/04/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

What ratio perlite to moss? On the way to buy now


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595736 - 11/04/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

lols never mind.
I found another Hydro shop, which is closer, have better prices than any other i have found (except for ebay. They do have an ebay shop which post out items from another state, but when you pay for shipping you might as well have just bought from the shop direct!)

An ever bigger positive point is THEY KNOW WHST THEIR SHIT! lol
Anyways, I had a little chat with the guy and he helped me heaps.
Got 50L of Coco, 5 x 8L pots and saucers, Nutrifield nutes, EC test pen
Came to a total of $110. The EC test pen was around $50, so i think i got everything else quite cheap. I was expecting to spend almost $200 today, I'm heaps happy with my purchase :laugh:
He even threw in some clay balls for free. He told me to have a 1inch layer on the top of my substrate to keep the bugs out.

I was gonna get some perlite, but he said you only really need it for large scale grows and i should be ok with just the coco.

The nutes he sold me were cheaper than dutch master and apparently the best they've seen, it is the only product where they guarantee results. They have even turned some loyal Canna nutes customers onto the  stuff and they haven't gone back. Their supposed to be some new mob that are starting to get popular.
Keen to see how it performs.

Anyways, I will be repotting tomorrow in the coco. Any tips? I know I gotta wash the clay balls, what about the coco?

Cheers
MagickZ

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595737 - 11/04/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The Nutrifield Coco Nutes and the EC test pen


Pen and Nutes chilling with Spiderman and Ironman, lols
My Auntie makes these. She is officially licensed by Disney, and makes each peice by hand. She even has life size figurines! I don't have any of those though lol.These ones she gave me are ones that did not pass her quality test, but if you ask me there is nothing wrong with these ones lol
She wants me to start my own company and be her distributor in Australia, but I have no idea how to do that lol, I'm gonna start by selling them on ebay. Also thought I would approach movie cinemas and dvd rental shops.

If anyone wants one, send us a PM lol
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595742 - 11/04/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The other things I purchased today
5 of these pots and saucers


Should I drill more holes in it?

And the Coco coir


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595749 - 11/05/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hey fella's
I transplanted one of my plants. I was unsure about a few things so i chose 1 of the plants that wasn't doing as well as the others lol.

OK, the Nutrifield Coco nutes is 2 part. Bottle says DO NOT MIX CONCENTRATE TOGETHER. So I'm assuming you mix them together diluted right?

Also, both part a and b says 0.6 - 1.2 EC for seedlings. Is that EC for each part? Meaning 1.2-2.4?

Thats how I read it lol. So I watered the coco with nute solution that read 2EC. Also, it looked a little root bound. Because I didn't wanna disturb the roots I just buried the roots still in the block of soil lol.

Also my PH test drops only has 6.2 as the lowest reading on the charts.
I reckon i got it down to at least 6.0 though.

So I'll leave this plant and see how it does lol.
If someone can tell me the right way to do it, I'll repot the others tomorrow. Otherwise, I'll wait and see how this plant does before attempting to do the others.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595753 - 11/05/11 01:36 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

OK, photo update time
You may notice 1 plants missing from the photo's. Plant number 3 has been transplanted. It's saucer/tray thing was full of water so I didn't wanna pull it out the tent for a photo. Here are the others.

Plant #1

Is it just me, or does this plant look like its growing like a sativa?

Plant #2

This one seems to be growing wideways lol

Plant #4

Apologies for the blurry shot.

Plant #5


It seems even the runts had a little growth spurt after the fish ferts.
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595768 - 11/05/11 03:00 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Totally diggin the babies man. They look cute as buttons.

You're plant 1 reminds me of my plant one (which is my tallest LOL) super stretchy with super thin baby leaves. Also your dwarf took off sooner than mine. Mine didn't barely do shit until a couple days ago. Now its starting took look even.


Totally groovy buckets dude. I like them. How wide? How tall? How much did they set you back :lol:

Also for transplanting the babies it's easy. I grew up around doing it in gardens and what not with my parents. But its the same principle. There are two ways.

I recomend doing this after the soil has dried a bit.  Take the pot you want to transplant them too and fill it just over 3/4 full. Form a hole down the middle that is about half the diameter of the pot. This is where the two methods differ, In one method you could simply slide the baby out of the start pot and if the soil is compact and good enough you can plop it right down into that hole and fill in around it. OR you could tap the dirt off from around the roots and gently transplant them into the pot, filling your hole in around roots in, I tend to fill it in in layers sorta.

At least these are the two ways I learned for rose bushes, blue berry bushes, apple trees, various flowers, etc; as a kid. Some one can feel free to correct me if I am misinformed in the slightest. I would actually rather appreciate it.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #595773 - 11/05/11 03:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I my roots were compact in the soil so i just buried the soil with it. I think I did it right, looked like it was gonna start gettin root bound, so my bigger ones will definately need transplanting soon! but I'm worried about my nute/watering.

Someone on another forum told me i did it wrong, lol, bu they never bothered to tell me the right way lol, dont u hate that?

So, I mix part a with water in one bucket, part b and water in another.
And then mix them together after? Or do i water them separately?

Also, part a and part b bottles both say 0.6-1.2 ec for seedlings and transplants.
So should each solution measure up to 1.2 ec? Or should they measure 1.2ec together?
Hardly any instructions on the bottle, definately a not nube friendly product!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595795 - 11/05/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I my roots were compact in the soil so i just buried the soil with it. I think I did it right, looked like it was gonna start gettin root bound, so my bigger ones will definately need transplanting soon! but I'm worried about my nute/watering.

Someone on another forum told me i did it wrong, lol, bu they never bothered to tell me the right way lol, dont u hate that?

So, I mix part a with water in one bucket, part b and water in another.
And then mix them together after? Or do i water them separately?

Also, part a and part b bottles both say 0.6-1.2 ec for seedlings and transplants.
So should each solution measure up to 1.2 ec? Or should they measure 1.2ec together?
Hardly any instructions on the bottle, definately a not nube friendly product!




when they say don't mix part A and B together they mean without water(if their like mine), like don't mix A+B then add it to water, add A to the water first, mix it well then add part B and thoroughly mix it all together.(though i haven't used those nutes b4, so u might wanna call the store and ask to make sure) the total EC should be between .6 and 1.2 as stated on the bottle, also you don't have to worry about disturbing the roots during transplant, it won't kill the plant, u do want to get as much soil off the root system as possible b4 u transplant into the coco, just be gentle when breaking up the soil around the root system. but the one u did already and left the soil around the roots should be fine. just keep an eye out for ph probs with that plant, as the excess soil might throw off the base PH level of the coco, but i'm sure you'll be ok.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #595861 - 11/05/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Last night after reading your post, I dug the plant up while it was still fresh and tried to remove the soil. I think i did it more harm than good, lol, saw lots of little bits of root hanging out of the soil i removed. Being drunk and being a plant I wouldn't miss I didn't really care, lol. Thats the last time I check this forum after a few drinks lol.

Today I transplanted the rest of the plants. I used a hose on shower setting to remove most of the soil from the roots.
After, I put a top layer of clay balls on top to keep the creepycrawlies out.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595878 - 11/06/11 01:09 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I used a hose on shower setting to remove most of the soil from the roots.





It's just been brought to my attention that maybe that wasn't such a good idea?!? Any feedback?

Also, how often will I have to water? I was led to believe that I would have to water at least once a day with this setup. Is that right?

I have watered until water came out the bottom of the pot, should I let the pot sit in the tray of water and only only water again when it dries up? Having the clay-balls on top, i won't be able to check the moisture with the finger technique.
Anyways, today I fed them with a slightly stronger solution, 1.4ec, the recommended dose for vegging.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #595881 - 11/06/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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magick81 said:
Quote:

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I used a hose on shower setting to remove most of the soil from the roots.



It's just been brought to my attention that maybe that wasn't such a good idea?!? Any feedback?



I think they should be fine.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #596020 - 11/07/11 02:27 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Just a small update. Today I went out and bough at PH meter, and proper PH down instead the aquarium PH test drops, and PH down I've been using (PH test drops only went to 6.2 and wasn't very accurate, lol

Anyways, today is the very first time I fed/watered my plants with everything perfect. Mixed the nutes correctly, at the correct EC and correct PH. Keen to see the results as they have grown so much over night. Looks like I may lose one though. The leaves are a nice green, but they look like they are turning crispy.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596022 - 11/07/11 02:42 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The sick plant. Leave's looks crispy and a little burnt. Not sure if its from being to close to the lights, the series of mistakes I've made switching to coco, or a combination of both lol. Well 4 out of 5 is pretty good for a beginner IMO. Lets see if I can continue the rest of the grow without anymore fuckups lol




Group shot. It's amazing how much they grew even though the PH was way off lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596026 - 11/07/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Your sick one will probably pull through fine man,it doesn't look too bad. The rest are looking good! I think you'll like the coco, once u get used to mix'n nutes and adjusting ph and stuff its real easy to maintain.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #596028 - 11/07/11 03:51 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the compliment on how they look. I really needed it, after the shocking blunders after blunders of this weekend lol
Yeah, well I mixed a batch of about 15 litres tonight.
I still got about 10L of it though since I really didn't need to water too much. I've got the remainder in a plastic tub, which I've covered in a towel to sheild it from the light since the plastic tub is transluscent.

I water until i get some water dripping into the resevoir trays, then I water a little more.

Should I let the trays dry out before watering again? Does the coco suck up the water from the trays when it gets dry? Or is the water just evaporating under the lights? I haven't got self-watering pots, just plain ones.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596059 - 11/07/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks for the compliment on how they look. I really needed it, after the shocking blunders after blunders of this weekend lol
Yeah, well I mixed a batch of about 15 litres tonight.
I still got about 10L of it though since I really didn't need to water too much. I've got the remainder in a plastic tub, which I've covered in a towel to sheild it from the light since the plastic tub is transluscent.

I water until i get some water dripping into the resevoir trays, then I water a little more.

Should I let the trays dry out before watering again? Does the coco suck up the water from the trays when it gets dry? Or is the water just evaporating under the lights? I haven't got self-watering pots, just plain ones.




the coco may wick up some of the water in the tray, but its more likely its evaporating b4 that happens. You should only water when the coco is almost dry, just stick your finger through the pellets into the coco and if its still damp u don't need to water. easiest way is to test is to get a soil moisture tester since u have pellets on top, u can get them for under $10 and a normal plant store. Also if your leaving a tub with mixed nutes in it you should add a air stone or small submersible pump to keep the water moving so the nutes won't settle and leave residue in the tub.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #596063 - 11/07/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sorry to say but I don't trust my moisture meter any more....my plants were bone dry (in a couple cases) and it was reading like a middle of the road reading...


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #596064 - 11/07/11 12:11 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm sorry to say but I don't trust my moisture meter any more....my plants were bone dry (in a couple cases) and it was reading like a middle of the road reading...




lol sounds like yours is broken dude, i have one and it works fine. its about 6 years old too. either way the finger into the top 2 or 3 inchs of the coco usually can give ya a good idea if they need water, just he has a layer of clay pellets ontop, so the meter seemed like a good idea rather than digging through it...


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #596082 - 11/07/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the tips guys.
I will use my finger for the time being. In the meantime, I've ordered one of those meters from ebay. $14.50 incl shipping.
When I do start using it, I'll make sure to check with my finger every now and then to make sure its still reading accurately :laugh:

Oh, btw. Two other forums are banning, or have already banned linking to growpics on photobucket and imageshack.
Apparently if the authorities contact them about your pics and account, they will sell you out. Gonna switch all my photo's to another server. Anyone know of a good one to use with growpics?

I know I can just upload them to this site, but some other sites don't allow uploading of images :\ And I dont think its fair to link other sites to photo's here. Don't wanna slow the site down or put any unnecessary bandwidth usage on the servers.


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    #596083 - 11/07/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Totally groovy buckets dude. I like them. How wide? How tall? How much did they set you back :lol:





Lols' I saw em on on special at Coles (Australian supermarket chain)
They came as a set of 3 on 1 tray, and cost $5 each set. I thought they looked nice so I got em. I did have to dig thru the stock though and mixed sets up trying to find uncracked ones, lol, eventually got 2 perfect sets. Size isn't very big though, I reckon maybe about a litre volume in each pot (less than half a gallon). My seedlings were starting to get a little bit rootbound, by the time i transplanted.

I'm using them now to sprout my veggies. Gonna grow some tomato, eggplant and okra. Mum got me the seeds so I can channel my hobby energy into something that isn't illegal lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596128 - 11/07/11 10:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hhahahaha, I feel you, Thats why I miserably try my hand at growing things like shittake and pioppini etall, as well as hunting, much better at hunting for the shit.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #596220 - 11/08/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It's probably a combination of the pot upgrade, and the upgrade to coco, but I cannot believe how they are doing now! The stems are starting to get thicker, I will probably start training soon. If planning to scrog should I bother with LST? Since they basically are the same thing anyways. When should I add the screen?

The smell is getting stronger so I'll be buying my carbon filter tomorrow (still cant smell it at the exhaust vent, but its better safe than sorry)

Here's some porn for you. Unfortunately, I mixed some of the plants up so they now have new numbers. This is number 3 (previously number 1) the tallest sativa looking one. I think she's my fave lol



the sick crispy plant. Nute overload lols. Must be more sensitive than the others as they all get watered the same. Other have very slight curling which I don't think is a problem.
I'm thinking I should flush this one with plain PH'ed water. Or maybe a weaker nute solution?
Should I wait for it to dry up first? It doesn't matter when you flush does it?

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596232 - 11/08/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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It's probably a combination of the pot upgrade, and the upgrade to coco, but I cannot believe how they are doing now! The stems are starting to get thicker, I will probably start training soon. If planning to scrog should I bother with LST? Since they basically are the same thing anyways. When should I add the screen?

The smell is getting stronger so I'll be buying my carbon filter tomorrow (still cant smell it at the exhaust vent, but its better safe than sorry)

Here's some porn for you. Unfortunately, I mixed some of the plants up so they now have new numbers. This is number 3 (previously number 1) the tallest sativa looking one. I think she's my fave lol



the sick crispy plant. Nute overload lols. Must be more sensitive than the others as they all get watered the same. Other have very slight curling which I don't think is a problem.
I'm thinking I should flush this one with plain PH'ed water. Or maybe a weaker nute solution?
Should I wait for it to dry up first? It doesn't matter when you flush does it?






From your pics it looks like they have heat stress...  If you look the leaves are curling inward around the edges....  Otherwise It seems a bit yellow tinted but doesn't really look all that bad...  Your light is to close your your temps are too high....  More airflow and or raise the lights to lower your temps....

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #596258 - 11/09/11 02:10 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I raised my lights the other day, but after reading your post decided to raise it a little more.
We have had some stinking hot days lately, although summer is due in a month so i guess thats normal. Tomorrow's payday. I was going to buy a carbon filter, but the smell is still ok. I check my exhaust everyday and I still can't smell them through the exhaust. I think I will buy a cooltube instead, and just get the carbon filter next week.

When summer does hit, I may look at getting an aircon for that room, although due to the cost of power today, I would like to avoid it if i can.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596317 - 11/09/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yea no need to be running a carbon filter yet...
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596353 - 11/09/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I raised my lights the other day, but after reading your post decided to raise it a little more.
We have had some stinking hot days lately, although summer is due in a month so i guess thats normal. Tomorrow's payday. I was going to buy a carbon filter, but the smell is still ok. I check my exhaust everyday and I still can't smell them through the exhaust. I think I will buy a cooltube instead, and just get the carbon filter next week.

When summer does hit, I may look at getting an aircon for that room, although due to the cost of power today, I would like to avoid it if i can.

Cheers
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The cooltube is a really good idea if you live in a place where its warm...  I wish summer was just around the corner here...  Winter is just around the corner for me :boo:

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #596405 - 11/10/11 06:29 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Got my cooltube today, as well as a water pump to put in my tub that i store my water/nute solution when i have leftovers.

Anyways, I need some help with the cooltube.
Both ends are open. Should I Attach ducting to both ends? Or can I put a cap over one end and punch a few holes in it?

Also, there are all these parts that I have no idea what they are lol.
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A couple weird looking round brackets and some screws, nuts and washers. Have no idea where the brackets go or what their for, can't find any screw holes that line up???


These look like a couple reflector wings, but again, I have no idea where they go :frown:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596447 - 11/10/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

What you need to do:

1.  Connect ducting to one side of your cool tube

2.  Connect your fan to the ducting with a metal bracket that can be  tightened with a Flathead screwdriver.
****(the fan can be inside the ten or out side of the tent)*****

3. Attach another piece of ducting to the fan so that the air being pulled out of the tent can be transferred to another room or out a window.

Cooltube setup:

1.  The brackets might be fore hanging the cooltube? Are there any hooks on the top to hang it?

2. Use the screws/washers/bolts you have with the round brackets to install the reflector wings by screwing them into the top of the light where there are two sets of parallel holes.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596465 - 11/10/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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A couple weird looking round brackets and some screws, nuts and washers. Have no idea where the brackets go or what their for, can't find any screw holes that line up???


These look like a couple reflector wings, but again, I have no idea where they go :frown:





it looks like you put the brackets on the cooltube as i cannot see holes other than to attach the reflectors in the brackets i would assume they sorta snap on over the top of the tube, then use the 4 screws,nuts and washers to attach the wings to the brackets... you can probably assembly the reflector wings to the brackets first and then snap it over the cooltube, didn't they give u instructions?? LOL


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596507 - 11/10/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks Mushroomman420 & HempMaster.

Got it all hooked up in less than half an hour. Unfortunately, I was being a hero and told my wife "I don't need to turn the fan off, only an idiot would stick his hand up the fan".

And here is the result, lololol


Being a centrifugal fan, I'm surprised that I didn't break my finger!
I turned the fan off and continued hooking up the new light system with one and a half hands lol, my wife looking at me and shaking her head, lols

Anyways, its all done now, and I will remember to never do anything like that again

On a happier note, I picked up my first attitude order from the post pffice today :laugh:
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596512 - 11/10/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596516 - 11/10/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I also purchased a Carbon Filter.
Box says Genuine Mountain Air. Cost me $190.
Anyways, opened the box when i got home, the thing looks massive lol
I told him I had 400w lights and a 150mm centrifugal and this is the one he chose for me. Was he just trying to sell me the most expensive model he could? Because he is usually pretty good, giving me discounts and shit.

Anyways, he said this would last me at least 3 yrs which is a good thing.
I've got my exhaust going to the window. Can I connect it at that end? Or will it have to go in somewhere inside the tent?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596518 - 11/10/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Inside the tent as close to the top as possible.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: Stoneth]
    #596520 - 11/10/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Ok thanks.
I have an extra piece of ducting that came with the wall vent I had. It was only 1ft long, bu i kept it anyway knowing it would come in handy lol.

Now I'm wondering which end of the fan it should be connected to,  the intake or the exhaust.
Is it pushing the air through the carbon filter, or pulling the air through. I remember reading one way was better than the other but i cannot find it, lol

Anyways, I just watered them after letting the coco dry out.
Fed with 5.6PH, 1.5EC nute solution.
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596523 - 11/10/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Filter goes on the intake side of the fan.
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    #596531 - 11/11/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Don't forget to pull the blue film from the reflector if you didn't already.  It will melt.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #596533 - 11/11/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yep thanks. I pulled it off after reading your post. I changed things around a little though. I put the ducting on the other side so its closer to the fan and i don't have any sharp bends in the ducting. So I'll have to remove the ducting when i wanna change the bulb. Other end is left open. I will probably have a go at installing the carbon filter after the weekend, hopefully my left hand will be more usable then, lol

I am wondering if I should:
a) Connect this monster carbon filter between my cooltube and centrifugal fan?

or

b) Put another piece of ducting on the other side of the cooltube going out of the tent. And connecting the carbon filter to another fan (one i'll obviously have to buy, omg i cant believe how much much over my grow budget i am, lols)


After hooking up an extra 3meters of ducting and the cooltube, the air pressure out the exhaust feels lower. Maybe its just in my head, but im thinking maybe this fan isn't powerful enough to hook both products up to it....


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596538 - 11/11/11 06:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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yep thanks. I pulled it off after reading your post. I changed things around a little though. I put the ducting on the other side so its closer to the fan and i don't have any sharp bends in the ducting. So I'll have to remove the ducting when i wanna change the bulb. Other end is left open. I will probably have a go at installing the carbon filter after the weekend, hopefully my left hand will be more usable then, lol

I am wondering if I should:
a) Connect this monster carbon filter between my cooltube and centrifugal fan?






the carbon filter has to be at the start of the exhaust, So run some ducting from the carbon filter to one end of the  cool tube then just keep it the way u already have it. so the air gets pulled through the filter, then cooltube, then vented out.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596539 - 11/11/11 07:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks HempMaster,
I was dreading the cost of another fan, lols
I'll probably put it up some time this week. I'm just wondering how the hell I'm gonna suspend it. Its a big heavy bastard! Some more yoyo's maybe?

After that I can say that my growroom is truly finished. Probably get a magnetic ballast when budget allows. Maybe even upgrade the lights before flower. Is my cooltube big enough for a 600w do you think? I dont wanna have to buy another one lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596556 - 11/11/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks HempMaster,
I was dreading the cost of another fan, lols
I'll probably put it up some time this week. I'm just wondering how the hell I'm gonna suspend it. Its a big heavy bastard! Some more yoyo's maybe?

After that I can say that my growroom is truly finished. Probably get a magnetic ballast when budget allows. Maybe even upgrade the lights before flower. Is my cooltube big enough for a 600w do you think? I dont wanna have to buy another one lol




I use nylon straps to hold my filter up, but any good rope will do. As for a new ballast, get a lumatek digital, or one similar, that way u can use both MH and HPS bulbs, as u will notice much faster vedge growth with a MH bulb. the 600w bulbs aren't a whole lot bigger so u should be fine with u'r current cool tube, though i would look into it just to be sure.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #596644 - 11/11/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I use bungee cords told hold up my carbon filter....  there a few bucks each

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #596672 - 11/12/11 05:26 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Another photo update.
The plants have been in coco for 1 week tomorrow. There are 2 plants that I am thinking of culling (plants 2 & 5). 1 more on the border and 2 that I think are doing well (plant 1 & 3).
So here they are.

Plant 1


Plant 2


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Plants 2 and 5 are looking all twisted, so I think  i will cull them if they dont get any better by flowering.

Checked my temps today as it was another hot one. To my dismay, temps were still reaching 31oC. I think that maybe there are too many vents open (this tent has intake vents all over it!) I might try closing some up to try and get a proper air flow going on in there (God bless duct tape) and leave only 1 or 2 open.

Till I get that done, I have raised the lights a little, as i think thats why the plants are all twisting.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596698 - 11/12/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Checked my temps today as it was another hot one. To my dismay, temps were still reaching 31oC. I think that maybe there are too many vents open (this tent has intake vents all over it!) I might try closing some up to try and get a proper air flow going on in there (God bless duct tape) and leave only 1 or 2 open.

Till I get that done, I have raised the lights a little, as i think thats why the plants are all twisting.




you should close all the vents and get a run of 6' ducting hose and draw your intake air from the coolest spot you can, if you have no AC in your house draw cooler air in from the outside.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #596706 - 11/12/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

looking good:thumbup:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: MushrooMan420]
    #596718 - 11/12/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Loving the set up.

Really digging the plants man. Do you trim any branches or leaves, or are my plants just uber bushy?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #596775 - 11/13/11 02:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the advice guys.
I covered up all the vents/ports but one. When i put a piece of paper over it, the airflow holds it up against the tent. I'm not sure how it will work out, but when I checked the exhaust (It vents outside a window) the exhaust air was much warmer than I remember, which to me is a good sign :smile: I'll keep an eye on it tonight, and if all goes well, I'll lower the lights again

Wire5: Nah I don't trim my plants at all, although I did cut off siome sick leaves and leaf secions. I think its probably just the angle of the photo's. I was trying to show the stems of the plants.
I've attached some foliage photo's below

Plant 1


Plant 2


Plant 3


Plant 4


Plant 5


Some of the leaves look massive to me, lol, so i took a picture of one next to a bic lighter. This may be normal, but theyre the biggest leaves I have seen so far. There are similar sized leafs on 3 other plants.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596776 - 11/13/11 03:24 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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when I checked the exhaust (It vents outside a window) the exhaust air was much warmer than I remember, which to me is a good sign :smile:




I also noticed the sweet smell of cannabis as i rounded the corner.
I quickly cut some ducting from the cooltube shortening it. It was way too long anyways. And I used it to connect the other end of the cooltube to my carbon filter. I did not suspend it, as I had nothing to suspend it with, but I reckon the poles of the tent would not support its weight anyways.

Here's a pic of the setup. I am currently looking for another way to suspend it, but it seems to be working fine for now.

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Since having this posted up somewhere else, people told me to get the prefilter on the carbon scrubber, or i would clog it and half its life. So I've put the foam-ie filter back on the scrubber.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596835 - 11/13/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

your plants are twisting can the leaves are curling inward due to heat stress...  Gotta figure out a way to bring down the temps in there.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #596862 - 11/13/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I've got the temps down now which should stop the leaf curling. Ppl on another forum tell me that the twisting is a ph problem. I'll start working on that from my next watering


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #596994 - 11/15/11 04:56 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I adjusted my light to start at 9pm and finish at 3pm. That way, the plants are only in temps above 30degrees for maybe an hour or two, then lights switch off. And by the time the lights switch back on, its usually only 27o.

I've run this cycle for 1 day and the 2 twisted plants look almost 100% better.
Plant 2 is almost cured. Plant 5 is half fixed, hopefully after tomorrow, it should be better also.

A group shot


Plant 2 which was hella twisted yesterday, looking much better now :smile:
Still has slight inward curling at the edges of leaves, hopefully my new light cycle should fix that.


Anyways, today was feeding time, so i watered with nute solution at a ph of 5.8

I'll see how the heat management is with this light cycle. If i decide its not enough, I will buy a portable aircon unit for my bedroom (nextdoor to my growroom) and I will use some ducting to go from my room to the tents intake during those crucial hot hours.
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #597039 - 11/15/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Nice growth.  Hopefully the twisting stops.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: MushrooMan420]
    #597051 - 11/15/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah thanks.
I didn't wanna pull them out the tent last night for photos as i had just watered. Anyways, I pulled them out this morning, and took better pics.
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #597123 - 11/16/11 02:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Just purchased a 1.5hp 3.2kw portable air conditioner unit. Getting used on ebay for $220. Not bad since its near new, and rrp is over $500.
Gonna set it up next door to my growroom, and will have my tents intake ducting aircondioned air from my bedroom on hot days.
It will hopefully be the end of my heat issues :laugh:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #597149 - 11/16/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Just purchased a 1.5hp 3.2kw portable air conditioner unit. Getting used on ebay for $220. Not bad since its near new, and rrp is over $500.
Gonna set it up next door to my growroom, and will have my tents intake ducting aircondioned air from my bedroom on hot days.
It will hopefully be the end of my heat issues :laugh:




You should be careful about buying used portable AC units....does it have a decent warranty? I've gone through 3 new ones in 4 years, my first two died after only 5 months of use, mind u they were on 24/7 lol the one i have now just croaked aswell, luckily its still under warranty. honestly if you have a window where one will fit buy a window AC unit, not portable. they work MUCH better and don't see to break as easy.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #597336 - 11/17/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

cool, I dont think I have any viable windows but ill look into it.
I just recieved my second Attitude order today. So I have almost 30 beans i want to pop now, lols, but think its too late to add em to my grow. I was looking forward to trying the pineapple chunk, super lemon haze, la confidential & white widow. Not to mention the Heavy Duty Fruitys and other freebies I got on my last order.
I think ill just pop a couple of these Critical Jack Autos and chuck em in the tent alongside my chemdogs, I guess its never too late to add those guys :smile:
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #597462 - 11/18/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

ya those auto seeds will grow to maturity in the time it takes to flower your chemdogs so might aswell throw'em in, used the same logic for putting my lowryder2 auto's in the tent. will be interesting to see how they do, herd the plants will stay real small...


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #597479 - 11/18/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

My brother and my mate keep asking me "Can we smoke it yet?" lol
Maybe I should chuck some of the auto's in there. I've read that some strains are ready from seed in just 9weeks!

Anyways, I watered 3 of my 5 plants yesterday. The other 2 were still wet according to my moisture meter. So i'll check those 2 later when the plants wake up.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #597541 - 11/19/11 10:24 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hahhaha, yeah. I wish I could smoke some already. I might do a couple seeds and chuck them straight in just to see.

I wish I had more beans to play with as well. Or at least genetically female beans.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #597562 - 11/19/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a photo I took last night. It seems that everytime I water/feed, these plants just keeping stacking up its growth :laugh:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #597598 - 11/19/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

lookin good man!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #597770 - 11/20/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Man your plants look hawt :homerdrool: keep it up.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #597952 - 11/22/11 04:14 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Having fallen in love with coco, I couldn't wait to pop more of the 20something seeds i've recently had delivered (Also plan to order a pack of Herijuana from Sannies, then I've told myself no more after that purchase lol). Anyways, the only seeds I could add to my grow without disrupting my current grow in progress would be an autoflowerer. The only auto's I have got are the "Critical Jack Auto's" by Dinafem seeds.

I Germinated 2 seeds on sunday afternoon using the wet paper towel on a plate method. Anyways, after only 48hrs, these seeds have cracked and have tap roots almost an inch long :smile: I was quite surprised, as my chemdogs roots were nowhere near that long after 48 hrs, i take it as a good sign :smile:


I planted them into Disposable Plastic cups, 250ml, using coco as the medium. I have pierced holes into the bottom of the cups for drainage.

Wish me luck with these femmed seeds. I hope to raise these ladies mistake free, unlike my chemdogs lol

For the timebeing I have the cups sitting on my windowsill. I'll add them to the tent once they sprout.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598040 - 11/22/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

God damn these chemdogs are getting big, lols
I had to raise the lights again this morning. A little higher and the short ducting that runs from the carbon filter to the cool-tube will need to be replaced with a longer one.

No more heat issues. When I got home with my Airconditioner on Sunday, the heat subsided about 2 hrs before that, and I've been told its going to be cold and rainy all week, lols, now im broke with an airconditioner i dont need haha, but id rather have one and not need it, then need one and not have it :laugh:

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598043 - 11/22/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

btw, now that i got my moisture meter, I find myself watering my plants every 2-3days. Every watering I have had nutes in it, although I have backed off the concentration a little. Should I be feeding with every watering? Or should I be using just plain PH'd water every now and then?

Also, I never spray my foliage. Should I start? What's the reason for it?

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598105 - 11/22/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I only feed my plants once per week. This usually comes out to every 2nd or 3rd watering (I water about as often as you).

As for foliar feeding. Well thats up to you. From what I understand though is that it is mostly used for larger plants that have a hard time getting nutrients up to their upper leaves.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #598117 - 11/23/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah but your in soil. I know hydro systems feed 3times a day, so I'm assuming its ok to feed on every watering. It's working great for me so far


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598118 - 11/23/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thats right you went over to coco. How is it? I'll be honest, I doubt I'll try it because after soil I think I'm going to do automated hydroponic (or possibly wicking,in which case coco and perlite is a consideration). Though I dunno, if the soil seems to turn out different than most hydro's I've tasted, (I doubt) than I might stick on it or keep a plant or two aroundn if I like it.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #598120 - 11/23/11 12:52 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

What's keif?

-=Update=-
Awesome. It's been less than 24 hours since I planted them in the coco and the CriticalJacks have already broken the surface! I can't believe it, as my chemdogs took a few days before they sprouted.

I'll probably put them into the tent starting tomorrow.
I'm getting a good feeling about these, since they are developing much quicker than my other plants.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598132 - 11/23/11 06:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

-=Photo Update Time!=-

Plant 2 looks as if it has fully recovered from the heatstress. Plants 4&5 look a little worse for wear though. I'll just run with it, and see where they take me.



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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598145 - 11/23/11 07:47 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

looking good man!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #598171 - 11/23/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Man those puppies will fill the screen like no ones business. How far up are you going to hang your screen (how tall are your plants now as well?)

I've found the lower tend to look like hell very easily.


Also kief is another name for trichromes. Usually when refering to what gets knocked off and collected by a grinder with a screen. Essentially unpressed hash.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598274 - 11/24/11 03:29 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

-=AutoCriticalJack.Update=-

The sprouts are now completely upright, ACJ#2 has dropped its seed pod.
I put them into the tent today to start their life under the 400w HPS.
In order to get them to the correct height so they are closer to the light, I put a plastic stool in there for them to sit on.

-=Pics=-




Wire5: I'm not sure how high I'm gonna have the screen, I was just planning to put the screen over it this weekend at the height the plants are at right now. So all growth from now will be sideways hopefully. Or should I have the screen higher or lower?

As for their height, I'm not sure. Being as the plants are kept on the floor, when i look at em i only see a canopy as in the group shot, lol, im not really paying attention to its height, I reckon they are over one ft tall now though.

I got a friend who wants me to sell them one of my plants. I told me i might get rid of the sick ones and hes willing to pay for it, as long as he can harvest some smoke for himself, lols,what do you think is a fair price to pay for one of my plants that look like hell (plant 4 or 5). To be honest I'll probably keep them all anyways, but i'm jest curious. I have never heard of any asking to buy a plant still in veg, that is known to have issues all ready lols

On the seeds quest, I just placed my first ever order with sannies. I couldn't decide what i wanted, and was contemplating Herijuana, New Blue Diesel and Jack Herer. But I ended up getting The Killing Fields F3's. I saw some bud pics and the purple pheno's look amazing. I don't have any purple plants so it was a no brainer. Also, I don't have any sativa's, so it will be nice to add to the mix.

I can't wait to grow these out. After I get more experience I might try my hand at breeding my own seeds. I am thinking of crossing the Killing Fields (purple pheno) with the heavy duty fruitys from TH Seeds.I'm just imagining how sweet that combo would be :laugh:

Just in regards to breeding, instead of breeding with a whole plant, I was wondering if I can just take a clone, veg it for a couple weeks so its still small, then flower and pollinate that small clone only. Will that be enough? Or should I breed a full size plant?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598277 - 11/24/11 06:39 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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magick81 said:
Just in regards to breeding, instead of breeding with a whole plant, I was wondering if I can just take a clone, veg it for a couple weeks so its still small, then flower and pollinate that small clone only. Will that be enough? Or should I breed a full size plant?




nice update man :grin:
as for breeding, you can actually seed a single bud on a plant, just flower a male plant, and when the pollen sacs appear cut a few off and save them to use to pollinate a flower on whatever plant you want. Just throw'em into the fridge or freezer and when u want to seed a bud, get a cue tip and collect some pollen and just rub it on a bud and presto you've seeded it. Obviously u do want to be careful though when doing it. On the topic of seeding i've been reading that with femmed seeds if you flower them too long they seed themselves, this happened to me in my last grow. i nvr saw a single male pollen sac on my plants but obviously a couple plants developed them at the end of flower since a few plants ended up with a few seeds..the only good thing about this from what i have read is that those seeds will be femmed. should have kept them..o well, after this grow i'm not using femmed seeds again. gonna stick with a regular sexed out mom for cloning.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #598279 - 11/24/11 07:24 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks hemp master. The killing fields and heavy duty fruity seeds I got are regular, not femmed, so I shouldn't have any problems with it.
As for seeding just one bud, the thought of bringing the pollen into my growroom makes me a little nervous, lol. I'd rather just take a clone, then flower & pollinate the clone after I finish all my other plants haha. Theoretically, the genetics should be exactly the same as the donor plant. That way, after sampling the buds I can select the genetics I want to use, and there will be absolutely no risk of accidentally seeding my buds.

Also, just another question on genetics/breeding. What's the difference between the sexes when crossing. For example, will crossing a killing fields mother and heavy duty fruity father produce the same results as crossing a heavy duty fruity mother with a killing feilds father. Will it make any difference? How do u select which strain is to be used as a mother and which strain to be used as a father? Are there any guidelines? Or are the genetics as dicey and unpredictable when 2 people mate and create offspring.
For example, me and my brother both came from the same parents, but while I am extremely good looking and handsome, my brother looks like he was beaten with an ugly stick! Lols. J/k u know what I mean haha

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81] * 1
    #598329 - 11/24/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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magick81 said:
Also, just another question on genetics/breeding. What's the difference between the sexes when crossing. For example, will crossing a killing fields mother and heavy duty fruity father produce the same results as crossing a heavy duty fruity mother with a killing feilds father. Will it make any difference? How do u select which strain is to be used as a mother and which strain to be used as a father? Are there any guidelines? Or are the genetics as dicey and unpredictable when 2 people mate and create offspring.
For example, me and my brother both came from the same parents, but while I am extremely good looking and handsome, my brother looks like he was beaten with an ugly stick! Lols. J/k u know what I mean haha

Cheers
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I haven't done alot of breeding, but i would assume its just as much a roll of the dice as human breeding lol, but there must be more too it than that since professional breeders seem to be able to get the best traits from both strains...though this could be, and i would think it is, mainly trial and error... from what i know it can take years of selective breeding to produce a stable hybrid... either way i'm sure you'll enjoy trying! :grin:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #598400 - 11/25/11 01:47 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I personally put my screen so that it bent the top maybe an inch or so (it did require twist ties on some of them). Actually what I really did was adjust it until about 40% (which quickly became like 75%+ b/c of the males) of the screen was filled. I remember reading that for best results with screen you should have 30%-50% filled before flowering. Sadly I don't remember which of the many sites it originated. Now I just plop one node in one hole. Works out nice.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #598401 - 11/25/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I went back to sannies and ordered a Jackberry also, lols, this thing is like another addiction, haha.
The mrs is gonna kill me when our statement comes in lols. I couldn't help it. The flowers look so pretty and delicious. I know I already just bought the Killing Fields seeds, but they're a sativa, and i prefer indica high, so i need a purple indica, lols

I know she wont understand though lols.
Now I think i have too many seeds i dont know which ones i want to grow first, baaaah! I know I can grow just one or two of each, but i don't think i am experienced enough to cater for so many different strains in one grow. Maybe I need another grow room, lols, jk, the mrs would divorce me, haha

At least I think i am set for many grows to last me quite a while. I'll probably just purchase every now and then when something catches my fancy or when there are really good specials/promo's/freebies.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598404 - 11/25/11 04:10 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I was planning to build my scrog screen tomorrow, but i've been called into work for overtime, so it'll have to wait. How long after putting the screen on should you flip?

How long will it take to train the plants into the screen before i can flip?

They are starting to get big, so i was thinking of maybe just flipping without a screen for this time. Work is hectic due to the christmas rush, maybe i should just flower these, then scrog my next grow when i can spend more time, pay more attention to, and have more energy to look after them better. Just wondering how much a scrog affects the yield. If the increase in yield is less than 20%, i might just give it a miss and flip it how it is.

These days, I'm asleep in bed about 3 hrs after i get home, what a sad life, lol,

I do rush home to see my plants though, haha, its so far been one of the most rewarding hobbies so far and i haven't even harvested, the feeling of acomplishment is a nice ego boost. Anyways, enough about me, I'm getting tired. Gonna crawl into bed, and read some more grow journals until the sandman takes my hand, were off to neverneverland :headbanger: .

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598518 - 11/26/11 08:06 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I decided to flip my chemdogs. Today is their first day of 12/12.
The hot weather has returned and with the official start of summer only a few days away its probably the smart thing to do. I'm away at work during the hottest hours when the aircon needs to be on, and at 3300w I don't wanna even think about how much it will add to the powerbill. Lights will be on from 9pm-9am to avoid heat issues. So the lights should switch off at 9am for their first day of flowering :laugh: Also I got my 10x magnification jewellew loupe and cant wait to inspect the buds trichomes at close range, EXCITING!

I'm just agonizing on wether to add a scrog to them, can a screen be added right at the start of flowering, as i have read that she stretches quite a bit during flowering.
How will the flip affect my auto critical jack? With 12/12 she will probably grow slower compared to 18/6, right? I'm thinkin of putting these plants outside during the day for some sun. Being auto's the more hours of light, the better, right?
Also, i see one of the seedlings flapping around in the fan lol. i tried to put it in a less windy spot but didnt have much luck so i topped the coco up. As she is the bigger one of the 2, so i'd hate to do wrong by her. She is stretchy as hell though compared to her little sister!

Anyways, being new to flowering, has anyone got any tips for me? I know that my tent has no light leaks. Even during the day, the inside of the tent is hella dark, what else do i need to look out for?

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598523 - 11/26/11 08:42 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Also, these forums seem so dead these days, lol

I've moved my main MJ forum home to THCFarmer, and also registered at overgrow.
I will still update my grow journal regularly, I'll just spend more of my time on the other sites until thing pick up around here.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598639 - 11/26/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I agree!  Dead around here these days....  I was thinking about going to a different forum also.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #598640 - 11/26/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I've joined 3 new ones:
www.thcfarmer.com
www.marijuanapassion.com
www.opengrow.com (still waiting for a mod to approve my membership so I can post, grrr) this is the associated forum for sannies seeds and webshop, can't wait to get started in there.

I'll still update this forum regularly as there are still a few active posters, but I will turn to the other forums for help, as my plants may be dead before I get an answer here lols, it's nothing personal.
Seeing as everything happens so much quicker with hydro, I can't afford to take that risk.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598647 - 11/27/11 12:18 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I've stopped relying so much on here for answers. I tend to just google search when I need help.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598659 - 11/27/11 01:32 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I know what you mean...  I had a few problems and I posted in the doc thread.  Didn't get an reply for over a week...  I do dwc and it would be dead by then if I would have waited.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #598660 - 11/27/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well I will still keep updating my thread regularly, what about you guys?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598664 - 11/27/11 02:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Going to keep doing my normal thing. Post here and no where else; because I'm too lazy to. And stubbornly keep my "I'll figure it out on my own" mentality.

But that pretty well sums up my nature.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #598673 - 11/27/11 04:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Holy Moly!
I have no idea if it is from its first 12hr nap, or from the feeding the other day, but when my plant woke up, they were waist high lols.
Had to raise my cooltube, I cant raise it any further until i get some extra ducting for my carbon filter, lol, ill go shopping monday or tuesday, ill have to take the day off work, haha



The first 3 plants look good.



But plants 4&5 look a little battered, haha, i have the room so i might as well keep em and see what they yield for me


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #598711 - 11/27/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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wire5 said:
Going to keep doing my normal thing. Post here and no where else; because I'm too lazy to. And stubbornly keep my "I'll figure it out on my own" mentality.

But that pretty well sums up my nature.




ya i have that "bugoff i'll figure it out myself" mentality too lol

I really only post here so i can keep track of my grow LOL don't really care if there lots of action in the forums... plus i like the look of this place better than the others i've checked out.
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Holy Moly!
I have no idea if it is from its first 12hr nap, or from the feeding the other day, but when my plant woke up, they were waist high lols.





your plants still look a lil heat stressed but it doesn't seem to effect their growth at all LOL, looking good bro! :thumbup:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #598724 - 11/27/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

@magick81: Yeah my looked really perky their first day, but they were crammed under a screen too; so I don't know if they grew any.

Why not go through and clean off some of that smaller shit and yellow leaves toward the bottoms. My philosophy is; "that if it nearly falls off when you gently pull, the plant didn't want it any way." Or at least that is what I've picked up, through various other plants that I've seen taken care of. I spent a lot of time in nurseries because my family has a bunch of half assed gardeners.*



@HempMaster: I love problem solving and trying to figure things out for myself. Its kind of an art for me.

I as well, it also kind of fills the "show and tell" urge.

I actually perfer smaller slower forums. I don't spend a lot of time posting, so on the bigger forums I get lost easily.








*(random stoned thought: that last sentence was me filling the urge to cite. Damn school systems, and their subconscious implants!!!)


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #598765 - 11/27/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Tonight when they awaken from their slumber I will go at them with some scissors and remove all the sick leaves. Plants 4&5 are the mainly affected ones. As for heatstress, I've monitored temps, and on really hot days, the tent can reach 31-32 degrees in the late afternoon. It's usually only for an hour or two, and by 9pm when the lights switch on, it's much cooler and stays at 27, until it spikes again the next afternoon.

Hey guys, now that I've started bloom, is there anything I should add to my feedings? All I am using at the moment is nutrifield coco nutes, which is used during veg & bloom. Is it really as sufficient as they say? Or should I add some other things to the mix, for healthier happier plants?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #598934 - 11/29/11 04:28 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Today, I couldn't raise the lights any further as the ducting going to the carbonfilter wasn't long enough. So I went to the hydroshop and got 2x 3m 6inch ducting, and 4x of those hose clamps.
The hippy dude I normally deal with wasn't there today, and this crazy mofo charged me $50 for all that stuff! I couldn't believe it. Last time i only paid $10 for the ducting and got the hose clamps for free.
I didn't say anything though cos a) I didn't wanna get hippy bloke in trouble b) I reckon I got those items dirt cheap, since I spent about $400 in the shop that day.

Anyways, fixed the ducting up, and i put my filter sitting on a stool now, lols

Here's a pic of the tent, with the watchful guard dog posing. He wouldn't get outta the shot, lol


All the new growth at the top of the plant looks nice and healthy. A few yucky leaves in the middle, but most of the crappy burnt crispy leaves are all around the bottom of the plants, so I'm happy about about that :laugh:
I know I said i would trim all the rubbish leaves off, but i am really tired today, lols, maybe tomorrow...
-=Edit=-
Woke up at 2am and couldn't sleep, so I went next door with a pair of scissors, and cut off most of the sick and heatstressed leaves, the plants are looking much better now :smile:

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #599019 - 11/29/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

lookin good bro! I should be doing a pic update by the end of the week, all 23 of my clones have roots, but only about 12 of them have large enough roots to transplant, so i'm hoping by the end of the week i'll have the table full with all 18 sites filled plus 3 or 4 more pots with the extra clones going into them if i can afford more pots and soiless mix lol cash it tight, i'm a poor broke ass student, so i'm not workn, hence the broke ass part lol but i grad from school at the end of the week so then its looking for work time again....i know i'll regret saying this in about a month or so but MAN AM I LOOKIN FORWARD TO WORKING AGAIN! LOL

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #599053 - 11/29/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Instead of buying more ducting you should find some straps or extra waist-belts to hang your carbon scrubber to save some $$$


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: MushrooMan420]
    #599074 - 11/30/11 06:03 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Checked on my ladies today, and at day 3 of flowering I had to raise the lights again, lols, Lucky I got the extra ducting, as the ducting from the carbon scrubber to the cooltube wouldn't let me raise the lights anymore. Plants have raised from just below my waist height to just above my belly-button. I wonder how tall they will end up :laugh:


Sounds good HempMaster. Cant wait to see your update. All your equipment looks state of the art, cant wait to see how it performs. And I feel you about returning to work. I returned to work on october 23, and having more money, my plants exploded in growth in just a month, being able to afford the finer things. Though some days I have to drag myself outta bed and force myself to work, lol. I did heaps of overtime last week so my pay is double what im used to, haha, cant wait to get some new gear for my grow operation :laugh:

MushroomMan, I've seen these cool straps that hold 65kg for $14 on Sanniesshop.com. Thinking about getting them, though I'm worried about the tent being able to hold it up. I've already had one of the lightbars snap, so i'm being real careful.

Since I only have 5 large plants, I had the room to chuck a stool in there to sit my massive carbon filter on.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #599102 - 11/30/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It sounds to me like instead of raising your lights every 12 hours you should just put a screen down.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #599142 - 11/30/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I don't mind raising the lights. I check my plants everyday, and the light hangers I use are so simple to raise. I just push it up, and when I stop pushing it locks into place. Checked them again this morning when I woke up and they are even taller lol.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #599164 - 11/30/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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The ACJ's are coming along nicely. Plant 1 is very tall and leggy, plant 2 has a much shorter stem, but leaf size is just a tiny bit smaller than her older sister.

They've been in the tent under the 400w HPS for 12 hours a day, and spend the other 12 hours a day on my windowsill.  Night period is only 3 or 4 hours every day, though I'm told you can grow autos on 24/0 from seed to harvest.

Now for the pics


I plan to feed it quarter strength nutes on my next watering, and work its way up to full strength seedling dose.

Oh, btw, I am now DrMagick :smile:
Well not quite a veterinary doctor yet, but soon, haha, I like that handle much better. Any way to change a nickname? If not its cool, i dont mind it either way :smile:

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #599214 - 12/01/11 03:38 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The chemdogs are stretching like crazy lol
I had to put 4 novels+a box onto the stool so my ACJ's tops are level with the chemdogs canopy.
Here's another photo. For size comparison I got my dog to pose. I also put a Solo drink can in the plant on the left, though its hard to see.
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #599269 - 12/01/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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The chemdogs are stretching like crazy lol
I had to put 4 novels+a box onto the stool so my ACJ's tops are level with the chemdogs canopy.
Here's another photo. For size comparison I got my dog to pose. I also put a Solo drink can in the plant on the left, though its hard to see.
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Plants are looking good man! :thumbup:
mine have been growing slowly lately, though i think i figured out why...i use 3 part nutes for vedging and have been mixing micro, then grow and then bloom into my water and i'm supposed to go grow, micro then bloom lol it actually makes a big difference in the order of mixing..think i'm gonna switch to single part nutes after i use these up... ofcourse i should be sober when mixing nutes...think that was a factor too lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #599454 - 12/02/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the kind words HM. Anyways, I just realised how horrible that last photo looks. Just like you HM, I was far from sober and forgot how to use the flash and focus lol

Here's a better pic. Plant #1. She's not my biggest or best gal, she was just the easiest to pull out lol



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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #599456 - 12/02/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Pug!

Looks so good bro, keep it up :bongload:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: T-Rex]
    #599461 - 12/02/11 11:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Pug's rock! lol
Well, they do after you get used to all the pug smells and pug noises, haha

Did anyone watch the first episode of weed wars? Seemed a little boring, hopefully it gets better


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #599618 - 12/04/11 05:29 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Rearrange the tent tonight, to have my seedlings directly under the light, and the larger plants surrounding them.

Had an issue were one plant was all wilted on only one side. It seems she was getting thirsty, and being directly in front of the fan sped up the "Dying of thirst" process. It also didn't help that the substrate levels were much lower than when i first repotted. I watered last night, and it was better today.

Today I rearranged the tent to put a stool directly in front of the fan to act as a buffer, my ACJ seedlings are sitting on it. I also topped up the coco in all pots, and watered them again, just to get the new coco moist.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #599619 - 12/04/11 05:32 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Looking good man!  :thumbup::thumbup:  Keep @ it!


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #599693 - 12/04/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

If only I had enough room:frown:Looking good man:thumbup:

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: DrG]
    #599841 - 12/05/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Last night I noticed that the green in the leaves was starting to get lighter. Being my second set of leaves, I new exactly what this meant. Nitrogen Deficiency, its time to start feeding nutes :laugh:

Luckily, my last 2 waterings were done with quarter strength and half strength nutes. Last night I watered them with full strength nutes at the recommended dosage for seedlings (0.6ec).

Today they look a little greener and thank god the tips aren't burnt :laugh:

Here are some pics I took today of them, as well as the nutes I am using.
The nutes for all of plants growth (veg & bloom) but imo it looks like the nitrogen can be a little higher during veg. Do you guys think I should water next time with some fish emulsion ferts instead of the coco nutes to give it a little nitrogen boost?



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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #599960 - 12/06/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm digging it man:grin:I always give my plants Hi Nitrogen starting a few days after germination,although most say it isn't needed until well into their vegetative state,but who knows:grin:

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: DrG]
    #600015 - 12/06/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Just checked on my chemdogs and they are still stretching lols.
Almost up to my chest now :laugh:

I like the size they are putting on, but i'm gonna run outta books to stack to get my seedlings closer to the light lol
Also, don't like the idea of having so many heavy books around my plants, waiting to be knocked over and decapitate my ladies...

I don't have much time now, but i'll have to work out another solution to get my seedlings closer to the light, when I get home from work.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #600047 - 12/06/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Just checked on my chemdogs and they are still stretching lols.
Almost up to my chest now :laugh:

I like the size they are putting on, but i'm gonna run outta books to stack to get my seedlings closer to the light lol
Also, don't like the idea of having so many heavy books around my plants, waiting to be knocked over and decapitate my ladies...

I don't have much time now, but i'll have to work out another solution to get my seedlings closer to the light, when I get home from work.




dude just switch to flower already... lol your chemdogs are more than large enough and the autos always stay short...i'm switching to 12/12 lights on friday and the largest in my table will be 9 inches, average height will be 6 inches by then... honestly indoors i don't know why people vedge their plants over 12 inches...you won't get more off larger plants unless you have 1000's of watts of lights... i know this is true from experience... if your have a tent with a 600 or 1000w light you should flower between 6 and 12 inches to get the most out of your plants... otherwise they will just stretch and have long inter nodal spaces, unless you have alot of lights. that is just my opinion though...believe what you like... :smirk:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #600050 - 12/06/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Lols, they're on their 2nd week of flower lol.
It'll be 2 weeks on Sunday. :laugh:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #600052 - 12/06/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I have been thinking of building a veg box to put the auto seedlings in. That way I can pop more of these seeds, lol, and can put em in the tent to flower as soon as these ones are done.
I was thinking of cfls to keep power cost and heat down. How many cfl bulbs for 15-20 plants. I'm aiming for 10 females next time, and plan to upgrade my lighting for flowering in the tent when I do so.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #600116 - 12/06/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Lols, they're on their 2nd week of flower lol.
It'll be 2 weeks on Sunday. :laugh:




lol my mistake, i'm switching mine 12/12 on friday.

Quote:

How many cfl bulbs for 15-20 plants. I'm aiming for 10 females next time, and plan to upgrade my lighting for flowering in the tent when I do so.





I just bought a 200w sunblaster CFL 6500k temp, puts out 14000 lumens,the guy at the grow store told me its fine for up to 5 full sized mother plants kept in vedge, and the cuttings in my cloner. its gonna power my mom/clone room.

but i don't know really how many cfl's u'd need to flower 15 to 20 plants...if i had to guess i'd say you would need atleast 3 of the 200w CFL's... just make sure when u buy the CFL's u buy the right temp for either vedge or bloom, from what i have read you want 6500k and higher for vedge and 3000k and lower to bloom.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #600517 - 12/08/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I planned to buy some pk booster and some lighting equipment today.
I went to withdraw money and all but $15 was gone. After calling the bank I learnt that somebody has put multiple charges on my account. Last month, fraud was also attempted but the slicksters didn't know my expiry date, so the card company cancelled my card and issued me this new one.

My wife reckons it has something to do with me using my card to buy seeds, as if the ppl running this business are shady. It did only start after I started placing seed orders.....

Any truth to this? Anybody else have fraudulent activity on their cards after they used it to purchase seeds?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #600735 - 12/10/11 12:58 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Possibly due to using your card to order a lot online. It probably wasn't stolen through the seed company (if it was you likely would never have recieved the seeds) its self but rather from a virus, trojan, or something of that nature which picked up your CC info when you were buying seeds.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #600736 - 12/10/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmm, well I don't think it was from the seed company or any of my online purchases. I only use it for online purchases on mainly overseas sites, but one of the charges on my card was in Sydney, which is where I live.

So I think it's:
a) ordering online at dominos. The drivers have a copy of the reciept which has the card number. It kind of fits as it doesn't have the expiry date, and the first fraud attempt they were trying to guess my expiry date.

Or

b) I've been using my card at a shop with some shady people running the registers.

I reckon it's b.
Anyways, I'm super devastated that they cleaned out my bank account 2 weeks from Xmas :frown:
It would be different if it was a credit card, but being a Visa Debit, the funds they used were my savings. Christmas is gonna suck this year!


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #600737 - 12/10/11 01:09 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Just wanted to add that i have scanned my MacBook and no virus's were detected. I dont think that's it, as I'm pretty vigilant with my computer security.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #600738 - 12/10/11 01:32 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I know that most recipts only print the last 4 of the card number so I doubt its option A.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #600741 - 12/10/11 02:15 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Anyways, to cheer me up I have lots of cool items being shipped to my house as we speak.
I got a grenade grinder/sifter.
I also got a more conventional "Cali Crusher" grinder/sifter so I won't get shot if I pull it outta my pocket in the streets.
Also got a new e-cig, with about 20 bottles of flavored smoke juice.
And a vapir vaporizer. Came with heaps of goodies too, another grinder, rechargable battery pack, pollen press.
If only I had some weed, hahahah, hurry up chemdoggies lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #600753 - 12/10/11 05:56 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

many banks where I am from wont allow the use of there credit / debit cards to make seed orders because they claim this exact situation happens all too much.  They claim they have had too much fraud happen after people place these orders.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #601002 - 12/11/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

So today marks the official start of flowering for week 3.
I just watered/fed last night. I will do a pic update later tonight when my plants wake up. In the last week they have grown alot, maybe a ft!
How long do these suckers usually stretch? Because i do hope they stop stretching soon.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #601028 - 12/11/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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So today marks the official start of flowering for week 3.
I just watered/fed last night. I will do a pic update later tonight when my plants wake up. In the last week they have grown alot, maybe a ft!
How long do these suckers usually stretch? Because i do hope they stop stretching soon.

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wow lots of growth man! how much they stretch will depend mainly on the strain rather than anything else, though if u want to keep them as short as u can move the light as close to the plant tops as u can without burning them. I usually figure my plants will get twice as large over the flowering period and so far this has proved to be true for me. though the auto plants are different, i know mine will still be tiny at full maturity.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #601066 - 12/12/11 03:43 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

They've got balls! Gah!!!!
lols, how lame, uber crap hahah

Well today, I came into the room where the tent was on during night night period, and found my lil bro had LEFT THE LIGHTS IN THE ROOM ON ON ALL DAY!!! They were in the tent, and its usually pretty dark in there regardless, but there was one vent I had left open for air intake. That vent is lined with mylar. Even worse is the spot it is in. It is practically right under the light bulb. Man I'm gonna tear my bro a new one for this :frown:

Anyways, I dunno if they had balls before and I never noticed em, or if they just came up today from having the lights in that room on.
How quick do balls take to show?

On another note, there are some white hairs also coming out of the bud sites. I dunno what to do. Trash em and start again? Or grow them out and have some seeded smoke?

Will it be worth my time and trouble to continue this grow op? Or should I just cut my losses and get rid of them?

I dunno if all of them had balls, but after I saw em on the 3 best plants I stopped looking lol

So are my Critical Jack Auto's are my only hope now?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #601067 - 12/12/11 03:46 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Also, the other day I noticed that my shitty timer wasn't switching of at 9am, it didn't switch off till 9:15am.
So they were getting 12.25 Light/11.75 Darkness. I didn't notice till last week (half way through week 2).

Is that maybe the reason that they hermied?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #601068 - 12/12/11 04:04 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Or it could've been the heatstress. Probably a combination of all those factors :frown:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #601070 - 12/12/11 05:08 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm having a look at Dutch Masters Reverse. Anyone have any experience with it? Its a foliar spray which kills the male flowers only, i think...
I've read somewhere else that there are rumours it is bad for your health. Any truth to that? Or is it just a rumor?

In the meantime, I should probably figure out where I will move my Critical Jack Auto's. I guess I'll have to get some CFL's for them.
Being Auto's should I bother with getting both spectrums for veg and flower? Or should I just get red (flower) spectrum?

Sorry for the multiple posts in a row, but i'm pretty annoyed and worried at the moment.

Any guidance would be really appreciated.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #601073 - 12/12/11 06:58 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

they probably started about a week ago if you are just noticing them today. they normally take between 5-10 days to become noticeable after the process begins.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: Pernicious]
    #601097 - 12/12/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Will it be worth my time and trouble to continue this grow op? Or should I just cut my losses and get rid of them?

I dunno if all of them had balls, but after I saw em on the 3 best plants I stopped looking lol





if pollen sacs have just appeared they probably have not released any pollen yet, get rid of the males and continue the grow.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #601098 - 12/12/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Those will make some wicked brownies/hash.

Also I don't see balls devoloping in the course of 1 day.

My cat attacked my garden "door" and put a bunch of star holes in it LOL. Luckily it was dark when she did it and I fixed it as soon as the lights came on. After dusting her ass of course.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #601127 - 12/12/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Well, they are not males as they are also pushing out pistils.

Here are a few of the balls I removed.
Can anyone confirm if these are the pollen sacks?


Someone has told me of a plant with balls, which pushed out pistils instead of pollen sacs, so I'm hopeful.

These balls I pulled off were tiny and took alot of time to find!


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #601128 - 12/12/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

And the balls were found on some nodes, but not the nodes that are starting to produce bud. Accompanied by these big Green Spur-like things.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #601129 - 12/12/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Here's another pic ot one of the plant tops. Multiple white hairs being pushed out the top. I think I will leave it for a bit and see what happens. I'm still not sure if these are hermies, or just females.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #601177 - 12/12/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Bump.
So can anyone confirm or deny if these are pollen sacs that I have removed?
Or are they normal growth for a flowering female.
A PM sent to me by another member advises me that he once had a grow that was putting out balls. He pulled his plans, but his mate who was growing the same didn't pull em and the balls pushed out pistils instead of pollen.
I would like to be sure about my plants before I make a decision on what to do with them.
I've got my hopes up that they haven't hermied on me....


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magick81 said:
Well, they are not males as they are also pushing out pistils.

Here are a few of the balls I removed.
Can anyone confirm if these are the pollen sacks?


Someone has told me of a plant with balls, which pushed out pistils instead of pollen sacs, so I'm hopeful.

These balls I pulled off were tiny and took alot of time to find!



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magick81 said:
Well, they are not males as they are also pushing out pistils.

Here are a few of the balls I removed.
Can anyone confirm if these are the pollen sacks?


Someone has told me of a plant with balls, which pushed out pistils instead of pollen sacs, so I'm hopeful.

These balls I pulled off were tiny and took alot of time to find!




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