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Invisibledrawde
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Building a computational device
    #578715 - 08/16/11 09:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I got it in my head that Im gunna build one of these suckers and have a wicked fast computer for a decent amount of money. However I know fuck all about this. So any information, instructionals, websites to buy from, etc to get the ball rolling would be greatly appreciated. I know some of you are good with this shit.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #578724 - 08/16/11 10:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:lol: considering you know nothing about the subject this would be very tricky. Do you have any friends irl that know their way around electronics?


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: mellowparty]
    #578726 - 08/16/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:shrug: I learn fast. You gotta start somewhere, I have known 16 year old kids that built their computers. Anyway, I dont think I know anyone who is knowledgeable... thats what the internet is for!


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #578727 - 08/16/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Im finding a lot of vidoes on the subject that look good, problem is I dont have the bandwidth to watch videos. Might go to the library or something. I guess what I was hoping to accomplish most of all with this thread is finding good places to buy from that fellow members have had good experiences with.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #578737 - 08/16/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If you don't have bandwidth to watch videos, why are you bothering to build a supercomputer?

No hate, just wondering...because even the simplest tasks require a peppy internet connection these days...


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: RasJeph]
    #578740 - 08/16/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Good question... I am going to college in an urban center this fall. Cant get shit for internet right now out in the boonies.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #578742 - 08/16/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ah.

Well, I used to have a really sweet guide on how to build a sick computer for like $500, but it was made years ago and I doubt its any good anymore :C


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: RasJeph]
    #578743 - 08/16/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's easy, I just built one too. Just do some googling and then it's no harder than really expensive legos.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #578745 - 08/16/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nice, care to share the specs?


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #578751 - 08/16/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: DungenessDank]
    #578755 - 08/16/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nice find!
Wow, I had no idea $1500 could get you such a good system.

Heres another good guide I found:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/guides/2011/03/ars-system-guide-march-2011-edition.ars/1


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #578756 - 08/16/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The price of computers have definitely dropped over the past decade or two.

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: DungenessDank]
    #578757 - 08/16/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It was around 96 or 97 my family got our first computer, it was like 64mb ram and 500 mb hard drive, and cost FIVE GRAND! :lol:


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde] * 1
    #578758 - 08/16/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:confused:

You sure about those numbers?

Shit, I had a PC for as long as I can remember...and I know for sure nobody would have ever paid even an 8th of that for me to have one.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: DungenessDank]
    #578770 - 08/16/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

sweet


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: RasJeph]
    #578800 - 08/16/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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:confused:

You sure about those numbers?

Shit, I had a PC for as long as I can remember...and I know for sure nobody would have ever paid even an 8th of that for me to have one.




Yeah actually believe it or not he's pretty much spot on. My first computer was in '92 and was basically those specs (might have had a full 1GB for the HD) and was about $4600


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #578805 - 08/16/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Wth were you guys doing with a gig hd in 92? That sounds spicy.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #578807 - 08/16/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Mine musta been a real POS then :lol:

Windows 3.1 ftw.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: King Koopa]
    #578863 - 08/16/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Wth were you guys doing with a gig hd in 92? That sounds spicy.




It very well have not been a full gig. I was only 5 you can't remember me to expect that shit.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #578873 - 08/16/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I can walk ya through building the baddest PC on da block bro, just lemme finish mai book first


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #578880 - 08/16/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

And that buyers chart DD posted is very up to date, If you can swing the great or excelent lists that would be really badass, I can also help u find good deals if u need on other forums and let u know who's legit


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #578883 - 08/16/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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And that buyers chart DD posted is very up to date, If you can swing the great or excelent lists that would be really badass, I can also help u find good deals if u need on other forums and let u know who's legit





In case anyone is wondering, this is sarcasm. Nobody in their right mind would consider 2TB HDD and 8GB of Ram to be "exceptional."


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #578885 - 08/16/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

my dad programmed circuit boards. so i remember having computers for as long as i can remember.

like, pre windows. MS DOS.


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Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
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I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #578886 - 08/16/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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NobodyImportant said:
And that buyers chart DD posted is very up to date, If you can swing the great or excelent lists that would be really badass, I can also help u find good deals if u need on other forums and let u know who's legit





In case anyone is wondering, this is sarcasm. Nobody in their right mind would consider 2TB HDD and 8GB of Ram to be "exceptional."




i feel just awful about my 500g HD and 4g ram now :frown:


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: still beLIEve]
    #578888 - 08/16/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

nah that's still a great computer, but to me exceptional means maxed out. My motherboard and computer case are both relatively middle of the road (like 75% of the way to "really fucking awesome") and I could max it out with 16TB and 32G of Ram. The MoBo's that are top of the line are insane.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #578937 - 08/17/11 07:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've played with the idea of building my own computer for a very long time. I'm pretty sure with a desktop there are pretty much no limits to what you can put together with the necessary parts, wish it was the same for laptops.

I'm fucking sick of having a laptop that can't even run certain flash games, pretty much all downloadable games are just out of the fucking question. :mad2:

Can't wait to start putting together a real fucking computer, and enjoy some real PC gaming.
:lol:

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #578945 - 08/17/11 07:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I can walk ya through building the baddest PC on da block bro, just lemme finish mai book first




Your the man! Lets rock n roll, I gotta have pretty much everything ordered by early next week. I am gunna be reading everything I can until then. Only thing I have really decided on is an intel i7-2600 cpu. So many choices for everything else. I am also looking at the thermaltake armor plus case but I dont know if I need a full sized tower, cant ever see myself having 7 disk drives. I will probably be moving it around a lot though so I want something very sturdy.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #578947 - 08/17/11 07:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I've played with the idea of building my own computer for a very long time. I'm pretty sure with a desktop there are pretty much no limits to what you can put together with the necessary parts, wish it was the same for laptops.

I'm fucking sick of having a laptop that can't even run certain flash games, pretty much all downloadable games are just out of the fucking question. :mad2:

Can't wait to start putting together a real fucking computer, and enjoy some real PC gaming.




I know... I am so sick of slow computers that I really wanna go overboard here in as big a way as I can manage budget wise.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #578948 - 08/17/11 07:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Have you checked out this? http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=292&area=en

They have some SERIOUS towers for desktops.. http://www.silverstonetek.com/raven/products/index.php?model=RV03&area=en Like this one, I've found a few of these for only $150 just with a Google search. I doubt you'd need anything more serious than that, if you feel you do, there are a lot of other great options.

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #578949 - 08/17/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nice, care to share the specs?



http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/510180#510180


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #579013 - 08/17/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Have you checked out this? http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=292&area=en

They have some SERIOUS towers for desktops.. http://www.silverstonetek.com/raven/products/index.php?model=RV03&area=en Like this one, I've found a few of these for only $150 just with a Google search. I doubt you'd need anything more serious than that, if you feel you do, there are a lot of other great options.





Yeah I would reccomend a silverstone or Lian-Li case

they are such high quality, I will never go back to a sub par case again

I would (and have) run my PC using a cardboard box as a case before buying something other than the highest quality case



and @ HB, that wasnt sarcasm, 8gb of ram is more than enough for a windows PC and the hard drive size depends on what you are going to be doing

If I were to build a PC today with unlimited funds I would be running a 300gb HDD and 4gb of high speed ram as opposed to more ram that I wont utilize that runs at slower clock speeds / timings

but yeah, I wouldnt consider that PC "exceptional" compared to what you can build, but for that price range its a damn good build that will last a good few years running anything you can throw at it


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579047 - 08/17/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

it's the word exceptional that makes it silly. Nobody needs more than 2TB and 8G of ram, but calling it exceptional is kinda silly because the capability is so much higher than that nowadays


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #579083 - 08/17/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I gotcha

@ OP

whats your budget, Ill try put something awesome together

u should water cool it

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579084 - 08/17/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck I want to water cool but I feel like that would be entering the realm of lunacy considering my experience level. Some of the components I am looking at are already getting there.
My budget is 1500, can maybe swing a little bit more on really key components. I want to have this computer for as long as possible within a reasonable price.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #579085 - 08/17/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I can build you a sick watercooled PC for any budget, 15 - 1700 would build a badass rig

honestly I would stick with an I5, much better bang for buck compared to the I7


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579093 - 08/17/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Is there anything you would need to do differently to leave the door open for a multi-monitor setup in the future?


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579100 - 08/17/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Check out these previous PCs ive had, pls ignore the fact that most of em are messy as fuck, my personal PCs were always being fucked with on the daily so I never bothered making them pretty

Ill try find some of the ones I made pretty tho, such a sick hobby






This cooler is works like an air conditioner with a compressor, going up to a little tiny evaporator over the CPU, Idle CPU temp would be ~ -60c and load temperatures with a highly over volted chip would be ~ -30 or 40








This one was commissioned, one of my favorite builds ever



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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579111 - 08/17/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The whole unit underneath is a cooling unit? Wow...


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579150 - 08/18/11 08:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Wow.. That comissioned one is insane.. :eek:

How much did it cost? What was your cut?

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579154 - 08/18/11 08:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Damn sexy.

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579180 - 08/18/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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such a sick hobby





Goddamn nice man


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #579191 - 08/18/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Wow.. That comissioned one is insane.. :eek:

How much did it cost? What was your cut?




Cost $2700    Cut was originally $500 but I ended up putting all that back into the project cause I had so much fun doing it :happyweed:

and buying some buds


I would be more than happy to build one equally as good for any of you guys if you are in the SE

I just would never put something like that in the mail, unless we were trying to pull some insurance fraud on the post office or something :P


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579216 - 08/18/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That's a really awesome hobby/occupation to have, how did you get into it? I'd love to learn at least some pretty basic knowledge for working with electronics and computers.

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #579274 - 08/18/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Just start with a search on youtube there is so much info out there.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #579288 - 08/18/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Its just something I got into, I built all those when I was ~ 15 -17

Dont do it too much anymore, I just use my laptop, desktops are getting wayyy to overpriced if u wanna have something good

Its not like a career or anything, Its really easy to do. just popping parts together and planning out something cool


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579299 - 08/18/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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desktops are getting wayyy to overpriced if u wanna have something good



Fuck... And here I thought the only high performance computer that would be decently affordable would have to be a desktop..

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #579300 - 08/18/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well they arent that bad i guess, im just used to having a computer for internet and music, i cant afford performance anymore


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579370 - 08/19/11 10:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, once you learn how easy it is to put together a great computer it kind of makes you sick how much people shell out to companies like dell, or worse alienware for their shit.  If I ever personally met someone with an alienware pc I would have to laugh in their face.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: THEBats]
    #579375 - 08/19/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I used to be against brand name PCs but I feel like the bigger companies such as HP and Dell and whoever are still a pretty good deal for the average consumer, they buy their shit in such quantity they probably get it for a good percentage cheaper than any other person or company on earth

alienware though, and those other "high end gaming" brands are a huge rip off, I met this super rich asshole a while back who had one of these he paid 7k for

http://www.sagernotebook.com/

and although it was pretty cool, I had a computer I build for under 500 and still whooped his ass in counter strike running at just about the same frame rate and graphic quality

plus those high end laptops get shit battery life and they are too heavy and bulky to even be slightly economical


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579376 - 08/19/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That's one of the reasons I'm so against apple, the markup is just fucking ridiculous.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: THEBats]
    #579379 - 08/19/11 10:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah.. Apple's markup is LEGENDARY.. Alienware is ridiculous too..

I'm gonna be looking to buy/put together a high performance laptop some time soon. I was looking at HP but I'm sure I could do much better than that with affordability probably, and apparently their ENVY laptops have retarded touchpads that force you to tap the touchpad for left and right click instead of having actual buttons.. No way.

All I've been able to find is just different brand names offering to customize their models.

I just looked at that link. Sager has some great deals from what I can tell. When I do get around to finally buying a decent computer I want to buy a laptop that I won't have to upgrade any time soon, and if I need to, I'll be able to. I just want to pretty much pay for it once and be satisfied with what I get, rather than cut corners and regret it later.

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #579381 - 08/19/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Does anyone have that chart of their markup? I think it would come in handy.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #579383 - 08/19/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Apple is pretty bad for mark ups but they do have economical computers

I rock a macbook simply because im sick and tired of windows being a shit operating system

I would run linux but thats too much work for what I use my computer for

I paid a grand for my laptop in early 08, its got a 2ghz 45nm Core 2 Duo, 2Gb DDR3, 160gb HDD, and a decent nvidia graphics card

Reason I bought it though, needing a laptop cause im always out and about. I have had and worked on lots of laptops and 99% of them are shit quality and fall apart after a year or two, my macbook is solid aluminum, I have abused the fuck out of this computer, spilled an entire bottle of gatorade on the keyboard, left it in cars that were ungodly hot, dropped 5+ feet onto concrete while turned on multiple times,  and it still looks and works like its brand new


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579387 - 08/19/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

windows 7 isn't too bad.  linux would be the way to go, or ubuntu but I use my pc for gaming.  Also a reason to avoid mac for me.  But I also am a desktop person, I only have a netbook for internet and other basic needs when I'm out, and it gets the job done for what I need of it.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #579393 - 08/19/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Would it be a lot more difficult to put together a laptop piece by piece than it would a desktop? When I have the money I want to put like $1,500 (maybe a little more if it's worth it), to build pretty much a super-laptop. Pretty much I'd like to build a gaming/multimedia powerhouse that won't fall apart on me and can be potentially upgraded if necessary. I'm fully willing to sacrifice it being ultra-light and having a long battery life. I'll be using it for the usual stuff, plus gaming and hooking it up to a TV through HDMI.

Edit: Fuck.. Just did some research and apparently laptop motherboards are fitted for a small range of hardware and there's not many options.

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #579481 - 08/19/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, laptops are extremely limited as far as customization is concerned, unless you don't care about burning a hole in your pocket.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #579673 - 08/20/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Pretty much I'd like to build a gaming/multimedia powerhouse that won't fall apart on me and can be potentially upgraded if necessary. I'm fully willing to sacrifice it being ultra-light and having a long battery life. I'll be using it for the usual stuff, plus gaming and hooking it up to a TV through HDMI.




The question is why would you want to do all of that with a laptop?

The more research I do the more I drool at your PC builds N.I.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #579687 - 08/20/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I guess I'll just make it a desktop :shrug:

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #579835 - 08/21/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

you will get a whole lot more for your money that way. and you won't have to worry about a 30 min battery life.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: Cage]
    #579836 - 08/21/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Alright I have a question, I understand that two video cards offer an advantage for gaming as you link the two with sli or crossfire and divide the screen so each one renders part. But, if you can have dual monitors off of one card with that capability, can you do both a dual monitor setup and the dually rendered gaming? Or would you have to go into bios each time you want to switch between the two?


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #579983 - 08/21/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You cant really do dual screen gaming with any games, a couple flight sims, but most games dont have any support

SLI is fun, but IMO its just better to get one good card


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #580008 - 08/21/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ahhh I see. Hows your book coming along?

I have decided I want to put the larger part of my budget into the CPU, Motherboard, video card and case (hopefully it will last for a couple computers). So right now I am thinking i7 2600k, Asus Maximus IV, maybe corsair 800D case, no idea on graphics card (PCI express), 4 gb x 2 corsair ram, 1 tb HDD and an SSD if I can squeeze it into the budget, also a corsair liquid cpu cooler. Maybe go full liquid cooled down the road if I get more into this.
So what would you recommend for a graphics card? Considering right now I am up to about $1500 and would like to keep it under 2k even max. And would an 850w power supply handle all this plus maybe a cooling system later on?


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #580016 - 08/21/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

dont get the corsair liquid cooler, all liquid cooling kits suck, you would be better off with a standard air cooler

and yeah im done with my book, what ya need help with ??


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #580019 - 08/21/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Id get this PSU, Better than 99% of the ones out there

lots of brands skimp hard on quality, these things are solid

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703030


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #580020 - 08/21/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I was hoping to go modular with the PSU, they dont have one do they?


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #580021 - 08/21/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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and yeah im done with my book, what ya need help with ??




Just lots and lots of questions even with doing a lot of googling on the subjects.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #580022 - 08/21/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I was hoping to go modular with the PSU, they dont have one do they?





modular PSUs are a gimmick, only more room for shit to go wrong

But if you are gonna get one thermaltake makes pretty good PSUs and they have modular ones too

Just check the reviews heavily on PSUs


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #580024 - 08/21/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If you were to buy a watercooling kit, this is the only semi decent one that I can find being sold at the moment

http://www.petrastechshop.com/swh2ulcpulic.html

swiftech is a pretty good brand, the radiator could be improved, but the waterblock and pump are all the best to be had (or just about)


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #580025 - 08/21/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

check this forum out, they will help you better than anyone you will ever meet in your life, bunch of truly gifted nerds here, I used to be a mod here too

www.blazingpc.com


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #580026 - 08/21/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I will probably just get a decent air cooler then until I am capable of doing a full water system. I just though the modularity made sense but I suppose you are right about a lot more places for things to go wrong. I will take your recommendation on the power supply.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #580027 - 08/21/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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check this forum out, they will help you better than anyone you will ever meet in your life, bunch of truly gifted nerds here, I used to be a mod here too

www.blazingpc.com




And they will tolerate ludites like me?

I am hittin the hay, thanks a lot for the help thus far.


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: drawde]
    #580028 - 08/21/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I will probably just get a decent air cooler then until I am capable of doing a full water system. I just though the modularity made sense but I suppose you are right about a lot more places for things to go wrong. I will take your recommendation on the power supply.





You wont regret it, modular ones look a little cooler, but they can be a pain in the ass, also you loose a cable and you will never ever find a replacement

and yeah, they will not only tolerate you but they will turn you into a pro if you take their advice and check out the tutorials, PCs are wayyy easier than most people think


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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #580053 - 08/22/11 01:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

build this up in your life :jackdaniels:

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #580081 - 08/22/11 08:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Sweet, I'm gonna check out that site too.

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Re: Building a computational device [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #581880 - 08/29/11 08:33 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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check this forum out, they will help you better than anyone you will ever meet in your life, bunch of truly gifted nerds here, I used to be a mod here too

www.blazingpc.com




This site is great... their really good help over there.

Now I just need to decide on the case, SSD and version of windows and I am good to go.

Edit: Think I will go OCZ vertex 2 60 gb for the SSD, they speak highly of those over there.

I like the silverstone cases but if I want to go liquid cooled down the road I want a case with an opening behind the motherboard right? I cant seem to find a silverstone case I like that also has that option.


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