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 iStoner
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 what are the pros and cons of MMJ? 
#571659 - 07/12/11 11:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm debating on whether or not i should move up to michigan, or colorado to get medical, or just stay here in texas.
what are the pros and cons of having a MMJ card?
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#571660 - 07/12/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can buy and smoke your weed legally without fear of repercussions
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#571661 - 07/12/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can buy and smoke your weed legally without fear of repercussions
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#571668 - 07/13/11 12:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The main pro is that you can safely grow your own stash and not have to buy any at all.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: FractalDust]
#571679 - 07/13/11 04:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Idk, if a locality were to be "put under supervision" by the FBI, say LA for example, they could get records for every person growing/buying medi-weed and slap them with federal charges.
I'm not saying medical weed is bad, but I haven't benefited from it being in VA. I know that's because they are no dispensaries or collectives here, but the collectives in Cali kind of have this stereo-type of being souped up drug dens.
I'm all for weed though, I just think there needs to be a legitimate change on the federal level before it's taken seriously.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: alienscience]
#571684 - 07/13/11 04:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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As long as you follow the guidelines and grow for yourself and tell nobody, they will never have any reason to come bust you. They can't target everyone they are targeting these dispensaries and shit that are affiliated with criminal activity or producing it and knowingly allowing non-patients to use it.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: mhbound]
#571827 - 07/13/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Perhaps it's just a part of the drug ladder. =) I really don't know what I'm talking about anyways. Most of the practical things I say are fabricated or water-downed. I do my best though =)
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: alienscience]
#571836 - 07/13/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Medical Marijuana patients have lowered the price of weed so bad on the west coast, small time growers are going broke.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: DungenessDank]
#571837 - 07/13/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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DungenessDank said:
Medical Marijuana patients have lowered the price of weed so bad on the west coast, small time growers are going broke.
Example of price please, im curious to compare, for example, a regular price here for 3.5 grams would be 20$
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: Manitou]
#571839 - 07/13/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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That is pretty good if its at least semi-quality. I know Canada has lower weed prices in general.
The price is similar to yours, in bulk. Nobody is getting that good of a deal on street prices unless it's brown-bud.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: Manitou]
#571841 - 07/13/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Gaskelort said:
Quote:
DungenessDank said:
Medical Marijuana patients have lowered the price of weed so bad on the west coast, small time growers are going broke.
Example of price please, im curious to compare, for example, a regular price here for 3.5 grams would be 20$
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: iStoner]
#571846 - 07/13/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well that's not medical weed, but like the regular price you will find on the streets, might be higher, depends on the seller
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: Manitou]
#571868 - 07/13/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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From what I've seen, the average eigth of medical marijuana costs $60-80 at a disspensary and a gram costs $18-22. You often find those prices on the street for similar "high grade" bud, but "regular/mid grade" costs about $25-30 an eigth and $10-15 a gram on the streets. So there isn't too much of a difference except for the fact that dispensaries only sell high grade bud, or so I've been told.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: alienscience]
#571872 - 07/13/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Damn ... in the street, the price for 1 gram is 10$, 3.5g 20$, 7g 40$...
I can get 14g for 60$, awesome weed & price, i'm just glad it is cheap here, means for weed for me to smoke the fuck out of my lungs 
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: DungenessDank]
#571879 - 07/13/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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DungenessDank said:
Medical Marijuana patients have lowered the price of weed so bad on the west coast, small time growers are going broke.
How have they lowered the prices? The lack of people buying from the illegal growers?
Fuck buying from dispensaries they're spendy as fuck, no weed should cost $60 an 8th.
And on the west coast buying illegally is usually much cheaper and the quality really is no different.IME
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: volcomstoner]
#571882 - 07/13/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The 3 concurrent states all have MMJ, and Oregon allows you to be a MMJ patient in the state without being a citizen.
It's set up nicely for weed to get from where it's produced, to where it is consumed.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: volcomstoner]
#571885 - 07/13/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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And on the west coast buying illegally is usually much cheaper and the quality really is no different.
Not quite
These are Northern California club prices
http://www.goodkarmagrowers.com/whats-on-the-menu.html
The Northern half of the state is quite a bit cheaper then the Southern half.
Here take a trip to a Northern Cali Club
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: Magash]
#571891 - 07/13/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Holy shit! I was always under the impression dispensaries were all spendy as hell. But I have only had "medical" weed from Colorado dispensaries.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: iStoner]
#571944 - 07/13/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Move to Michigan and smoke with me!
It's easy to get your card.
Pros: It's legal, cheap, and always available. High quality too.  Also lots of edibles and other stuff.
Cons: Nothing I can think of.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: FRACTALife]
#571953 - 07/13/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The pros and cons really depend on where you personally sit in the issue.
If you are a patient(wich anyone can be) and your only concern is buyng marijuana legally, then you can pay a $90 state extortion fee wich then allows you to BE allowed to purchase marijuana from dispensaries wich basically MUST rip you off in order to make ends meet and keeep paying all the different fines they keep giving dispensaries in order to stay in business. Just my opinion.
If you are a patient whose only concern is growing your own weed, Then it's great. You can pay the $90 state extortion fee if you want, or you can just keep your mouth shut and grow your own weed and not worry about it. In the legal states anyone with $250 and an extra corner is growing weed (and many with much less than that hehehe) so there's virtually no chance of bust. If the cops arent normally coming to your house (parties, domestic disputes, neighbor fights) then don't worry about it. 
If you are talking about getting into the grow business I suggest you don't. Or re-think it. EVERYONE is growing weed out here. Anyone who isn't doesn't want to. The price is so low you damn near have to give it away and that's assuming you can find a buyer, wich is illegal. Two years ago my wife and I devoted our financial life to building our grow and now we are scaling it down to just growing our personal legal amount. It's just not worth it.
If a dispensary is your concern, then all you need is about $250,000 and to find a city that does not currently have a moratorium on new dispensaries.
Good luck, hope this helps.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: Captain Caveman]
#572010 - 07/13/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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it's funny. I moved over to california and now have a group of friends who all haven't gotten their cards. But when i got out here it was one of the first things I did. Now they are all wanting to get their cards. But it's really not necessary out here. i love this place! the advantages are that it's legal to possess and grow it. the cons are that you are in a system i guess. i dont really give a fuck cause im already in the system in a million different ways.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#572012 - 07/13/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I love that some music venues are opening up medical marijuana sections where verified patients can medicate and socialize inside the show.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: FractalDust]
#572015 - 07/13/11 11:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I love that some music venues are opening up medical marijuana sections where verified patients can medicate and socialize inside the show.
thats fucking awesome
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: volcomstoner]
#572024 - 07/14/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I love that some music venues are opening up medical marijuana sections where verified patients can medicate and socialize inside the show.
thats fucking awesome
yeah, that was my reaction too! saw buckethead two nights in a row in SF last week and there were people lining the street smoking pipes. i mean everyone i saw had a pipe or joint they were smoking. It was great to see everyone smoking pot and not cigs.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#572383 - 07/15/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Man, being a patient in Seattle is great, honestly. I can cruise craigslist and find a qp of decent bud for $500, or some great shit for $650-750... 3 years ago, I was stoked to be getting a qp of cali outdoor for 850! Lmao
There's really no money in trying to open a dispensary though. I'm finding that there is a damn good market for clones though. Patients all over who have their cards wanna try to grow, so they don't mind dropping $15-25 each for clones. I had someone come over and he dropped $200 on 15 well rooted clones!
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: Tank333]
#572413 - 07/16/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fuck all the MMJ talk, come to Colorado because it's better than Texas in literally every conceivable way.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#572430 - 07/16/11 06:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm thinking that just about anywhere north and west of Texas is better than Texas... lol. But then, I can't stand it being so hot. That's why I left the desert in the first place! Haha
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#572433 - 07/16/11 07:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anything north of Austin kinda sucks but central and south Texas is pretty cool, You have damn good fishing from Galveston down to Paadre Island
Ive only been to Colorado once and i fucking loved it, The rocky mountains are freaking fantastic
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: FRACTALife]
#572520 - 07/16/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Move to Michigan and smoke with me!
It's easy to get your card.
Pros: It's legal, cheap, and always available. High quality too. Also lots of edibles and other stuff.
Cons: Nothing I can think of.
How easy is it to get a card in michigan for real? My family has a house in michigan (I dont live in michigan now) and if I could find employment localy up there they are fine with me moving into the house and paying them rent as they dont use it. I thought it wasnt like in california in michigan, I heard you actualy have to have some type of medical reason to have it and you cant just make something up like in california and get your card. Is this true or can anyone get a card?
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: SubHuman]
#572521 - 07/16/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Damn i wish we had med mj here in Texas
You are rated Subhuman
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: Alounacara]
#572523 - 07/16/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the rating and welcome, I tried to return the favor but I guess you need 50+ posts.
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#572562 - 07/16/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Damn i wish we had med mj here in Texas
I do.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: King Koopa]
#572602 - 07/16/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I cant even smoke weed right now its pretty depressing, got about 19 months till I can smoke again JWH-122 is nice though, when my tolerance is low a couple mgs will feel like smoking a gram of good dank in one hit and it keeps me high for 3-4 hours unlike 018. Its one of the only Jwhs too that Ive found that feels 100% like an indica.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: SubHuman]
#572620 - 07/17/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Move to Michigan and smoke with me!
It's easy to get your card.
Pros: It's legal, cheap, and always available. High quality too. Also lots of edibles and other stuff.
Cons: Nothing I can think of.
How easy is it to get a card in michigan for real? My family has a house in michigan (I dont live in michigan now) and if I could find employment localy up there they are fine with me moving into the house and paying them rent as they dont use it. I thought it wasnt like in california in michigan, I heard you actualy have to have some type of medical reason to have it and you cant just make something up like in california and get your card. Is this true or can anyone get a card?
The only reason I don't have mine right now is laziness. I just need to go and get some cash together and get some paperwork done.  Just gotta get a couple doctor recommendations, one of them can be in house, it's really just a filing thing.
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Re: what are the pros and cons of MMJ? [Re: FRACTALife]
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