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 thenpc
The Flameworker
Registered: 01/21/11
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For pipe work? or just beads? ...and no worries bro, I had no one to ask so I try and help.
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thenpc
The Flameworker
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 Re: My 2600° Painbrush  [Re: thenpc]
#568118 - 06/28/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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*Minor Bench Burner -I'd personally sell this and get a red max (same company) or gtt cheetah (I wont ever use a non gtt torch personally but theyre the Cadillac of torches) for a starter torch
If you stick with it you'll want a gtt phantom or carlisle cc (you can find cc's used for $600-800) for pipes
*Oxygen Regulator - needed
*Propane Regulator - needed
*Oxygen/Propane Hose Set, 12ft., 1/4" - needed
*Flashback Arrestor Set - needed
*ACE-202 Economy Frame Eye Glasses - ok but you should get better
*Paddle, Graphite 2-1/2" x 1-1/2" - needed
*Marver, Minor Torch - I'd sell with torch
*Cleaner, Pin Vise Device - useful for beads
*Tweezer Set, Serrated 4 pieces - needed (if theyre good)
*Mandrel, 1/16" x 12" long, pkg of 10 - needed for beads
*Mandrel, 3/32" x 12" long, pkg of 10 - needed for beads
*Mandrel, 1/8" x 9" long, pkg of 10 - needed for beads
*Mandrel, 1/8" x 12" long, pkg of 10 - needed for beads
*Masher, Flat Small 1" x 1-1/2" - useful for pendants
*Masher, Mini -ok
*Nipper, Disc Rod -useful
*Foil, Silver, pkg of 25 sheets 3-5/16" x 3-5/16" - useful pipes or beads
*Tweezer, Foil & Leaf 4-3/4" - useful
*The Complete Book of Glass Beadmaking - good for beads
*Beadmaking 101 P1 & 2 DVD -meh
*Spatula Tool Set - not necessary but can be useful
*Assortment Effetre Glass Frit, 10 colors -soft glass (DO NOT USE unless you have good ventilation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
*Ceramic Fiber Insulation Blanket, 6" x 24" - helps prevents exploding glass when cooling but no replacement for kiln
*Assortment Effetre Super 47 Rods, 13" -soft glass beads only
*Release Bucket O' Mud, 08 oz. - needed for beads
*Gloves, Kevlar 23" Wool Lined - pretty useless
*Assortment Effetre 90 Rods, 13", 85 rods -soft glass beads only
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alienscience
Farve in training
Registered: 01/04/11
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Re: My 2600° Painbrush [Re: thenpc]
#568129 - 06/28/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So that's pretty much a souped up bead making kit? I'd be better off just putting my own list of materials together?
Lastly, I saw you mentioned something about a "national". What is that? I've seen it mentioned on other sites as well.
EDIT: Popped a quick look at this one:
http://nationaltorch.com/8m.html
$170, adequate?
Edited by alienscience (06/28/11 07:42 PM)
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thenpc
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Yea, most people are better of staying away from kits
I was talking about the one I linked too on the last page for $100 but either would work as the bare minimum.
If it is at all possible I would save up for a RedMax or a Gtt Cheetah
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alienscience
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Re: My 2600° Painbrush [Re: thenpc]
#568199 - 06/28/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think I'm going to go with the redmax, how much did yours cost? Is the model name 'painbrush'?
Also, I noticed the cheetah looked a lot simpler than the red max, any idea as to why?
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thenpc
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Gtts are sleek and use a patented triple mix technology that allows them to be quiet, have more penetration with it's heat and be hotter then other style torches.
I rock a 4-stud Gtt Mirage dual stage with a foot peddle for the outerfire.
The cheetah is considerably hotter and has more flame types (big to razor) but the redmax has a bigger bottom flame and a rider torch to do smaller flames
Either would suit you its just between a pickup truck and a sports car.
RedMaxs used are like $450 Cheetahs are $550
Full time blowers generally have Carlisle CCs or Gtt phantoms - $1200 unless the go big
I went big but not huge, my torch cost about 2k and the largest torches cost like 10k
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thenpc
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Re: My 2600° Painbrush [Re: thenpc]
#569232 - 07/03/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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alienscience
Farve in training
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Re: My 2600° Painbrush [Re: thenpc]
#569258 - 07/03/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very glossy =)
So, if I were to go with the cheetah, I'd be getting the sports car of intermediate level glass torches? If so, I'm sold.
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I_AM_SWIM
Someone Who Isn't McKenna
Registered: 06/08/09
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theres no way a human being can sculpt such devices out of glass
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thenpc
The Flameworker
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Re: My 2600° Painbrush [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
#569287 - 07/03/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
alienscience said:
Very glossy =)
So, if I were to go with the cheetah, I'd be getting the sports car of intermediate level glass torches? If so, I'm sold.
The red max can do a little bigger but the cheetah has the precision, and penetrating heat and would make it easier to jump to a phantom or mirage if you upgrade in the future.
It's easier to fume with the pre-mix redmax rider but if I had the choice I'd get the cheetah.
GTTs hold there value so if you don't like it you can sell it for retail. There's a waiting list for many of their torches.
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I_AM_SWIM said:
theres no way a human being can sculpt such devices out of glass
Thanks 
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