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 LuNaTiX
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 Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon  [Re: mhbound]
#506871 - 12/20/10 12:31 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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The lowryder 2's I had were perdy good, I didn't get to do the outdoor grow I wanted. I smokes some of the leftover bud after the seeds, it was decent but nothing crazy, I'm hoping this new diesel ryder strain kicks ass.
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LuNaTiX
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: T-Rex]
#506873 - 12/20/10 12:33 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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And heres the kicker, if that direction takes off hardcore there's a chance to make a sub company and business opportunities for the winner.
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KaptKid
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 Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: T-Rex]
#506876 - 12/20/10 12:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I make seeds every grow of a new strain.Even send them to friends.
So far all my F2's have been as good as their parents.
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LuNaTiX
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: KaptKid]
#506878 - 12/20/10 12:43 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thats encouraging words ombray, I gatta get to bed, it's all talk till it happens I'm going to focus on making it happen.
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LuNaTiX
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: LuNaTiX]
#506881 - 12/20/10 12:50 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Aww fuck-it, by the time I fall asleep i have to wake up, It's going to be an all nighter.
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 Magash
The Feminizer
Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 6,634
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: LuNaTiX]
#507039 - 12/20/10 03:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Myself I've pretty much stopped using males to make seeds all together. $30 to $40 is what you should charge if your making F1's.
I sell mine for 35 to 50 for 15 seeds and they are feminized.
Sweet 16--Mikado X Sweet Tooth #3 (I've had this one out for a while now)
Cannibal--OG Kush x Chem Dawg
Man Eater--Green Crack x Sour Diesel
Gina--Sweet 16 X GDP x Trainwreck
Purple Monster--Purple Kush x GDP x Purple Erkle X Mendocino Purps
The first club I take em to I sell out at.
My current project is just making a few of the clone only strains into seed form so friends in Japan can try em.
The strain they really want to try is Grandaddy Purple. I have a excellent version of her. Here is one of her cuttings reversed so I can get pollen from her.
Normally looks like
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c99hunter
Registered: 12/12/10
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: T-Rex]
#507101 - 12/20/10 04:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
T-Rex said:
Yea I just saw Female and it confused me because I'm used to thinking seeds come from males and hermi's, I knew you can pollinate I was just a bit of a retard and didn't think before I posted
Pollen comes from males and herms, seeds come from pollinated females. 
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c99hunter
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: c99hunter]
#507106 - 12/20/10 04:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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To the OP, So you are openly stating that you are planning on taking someone else' strain, making f2's and selling them for a profit? Why not rework your own strain/crosses and become a breeder?
A pollen chucker should stick to gifting seeds and trading seeds, not profiting from others hard work. Just sayin.
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Magash
The Feminizer
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: c99hunter]
#507110 - 12/20/10 04:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pollen comes from males and herms, seeds come from pollinated females.
This is almost true. Remember a reversed female is not a hermie. There is a difference between the two.
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c99hunter
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: Magash]
#507115 - 12/20/10 04:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Very true, I thought about mentioning that as well, but didn't want to confuse anyone. 
It does depend on the person reversing the female too tho. I know you already know that because I have read a lot of your posts and can tell I want some of your strains already. Like a GHS "reversed: Is probably more like a herm then an actual true reversed and stable female to male.
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LuNaTiX
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: c99hunter]
#507127 - 12/20/10 06:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I understand where you are coming from but I have to pay rent and keep food on the table I'm sure the breeder made plenty of money, I'm sure he has food too. You know how lame it is to smoke a bit of weed and nothing but tomato soup to eat? lol 39cents a can, i stocked up
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c99hunter
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: LuNaTiX]
#507135 - 12/20/10 06:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im just saying, nobody in the business is going to take you seriously even if you do have a website etc etc, if all you are doing is pollen chucking, making f2s of others work and trying to resell and profit off of it. I don't think any website would allow you as a sponsor doing that.  It's just my opinion on the matter and Im glad you didn't get all bent out of shape about it. 
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LuNaTiX
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: c99hunter]
#507139 - 12/20/10 06:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well my myself I don't think an beginner like me would really notice the difference in quality, the fact that there getting it for 50-60% off is persuasive. Maybe someday I'll evolve into a high class seed bank that can charge 70-130$ for a pack of 10 seeds.
I think its crazy that they sell them for 200-300$ in some place. I'd love to make my own strain but I don't have enough resources to do it just yet, even if I don't become a growery sponsor, I can still be a sponsor with my original site which is very general and relates to botany and have my "low class" seed bank on another domain separate from my other side. Start up a little affiliate system, get like 25% of the profit through banners n shit. Whatever it takes.
I don't take offense and I know where your coming from but you gatta do what you gatta do.
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Magash
The Feminizer
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: LuNaTiX]
#507144 - 12/20/10 07:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just disclose that they are f2s when you sell them and all is fine and dandy.
Cross a few auto flowering strains and see what you come up with.
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c99hunter
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: Magash]
#507148 - 12/20/10 07:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Magash said:
Just disclose that they are f2s when you sell them and all is fine and dandy.
Cross a few auto flowering strains and see what you come up with.
Exactly.
@ OP
And just think about it, if you come up with an outstanding strain if you do invest in space,equipment, etc to grow out hundreds of plants imagine if someone bought a pack of your seeds and started producing f2s of them and releasing them for a 3rd or 4th your cost? It would be a low blow to you and all your hard work. Not to mention, in some cases an f2 can seem like an ENTIRELY different strain then the original beans. And someone could buy the f2s from that other person and get a bunch of shit phenos and be like "WOW, that original breeder must suck ass"
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LuNaTiX
Registered: 04/20/08
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: Magash]
#507149 - 12/20/10 07:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I will do that for sure.
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LuNaTiX
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: c99hunter]
#507150 - 12/20/10 07:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll have to be careful and get f1's for sure.
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c99hunter
Registered: 12/12/10
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: LuNaTiX]
#507151 - 12/20/10 07:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
LuNaTiX said:
I'll have to be careful and get f1's for sure.
You confused me on that.
What?
I was saying that f2's can be entirely different from the original beans. Your not going to make f1s from dieselryder seeds you buy because THOSE are the f1s.
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LuNaTiX
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: c99hunter]
#507152 - 12/20/10 07:22 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's what I meant, when I buy the seeds I need to be sure there F1 and not F2 or 3
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c99hunter
Registered: 12/12/10
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Re: I'm growing desial ryder soon [Re: LuNaTiX]
#507158 - 12/20/10 07:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
LuNaTiX said:
That's what I meant, when I buy the seeds I need to be sure there F1 and not F2 or 3
Why?
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