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Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible
    #505951 - 12/16/10 11:14 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible
Dec. 15, 2010 - ctvbc.ctv.ca

After the TMZ video of Miley Cyrus allegedly smoking salvia went viral, a Burnaby, B.C. woman is warning that the drug is extremely dangerous after she seriously injured herself while high.

Salvia, which is legal in California, is readily available in Vancouver. Although it's not a controlled substance like cocaine or marijuana, Health Canada has not authorized the sale of salvia, and says that sale of the substance contravenes the Food and Drug Act.

The hallucinogen causes an intense high that lasts a couple minutes when smoked.

Cassie Walde found out about the dangers of salvia the hard way when she unknowingly jumped out of a third storey window after smoking the plant extract. It was her third time trying the drug.

"I'm lucky to be alive," she said. "I had a high. It was really intense -- really confusing -- and I woke up outside on the pavement three stories down screaming."

Walde now has scars where surgeons reconstructed her shattered jawbone and where a breathing tube had to be inserted. She is still missing many of her teeth.

Walde thinks that Cyrus has set a bad example by smoking the drug and is warning others not to mimic the teen idol.

"I think it's irresponsible of her," she said. "With this Miley Cyrus thing they're going to see this and think it's no big deal and go out on a whim and take a hoot and end up like me."

But those who sell the seed insist that Walde's horror story isn't a normal reaction to the drug.

Rebecca Ambrose from the Vancouver Seed Bank defends Cyrus's decision to smoke the drug.

"She is an adult legally," Ambrose said. "She's allowed to make her own choices and it is technically legal so she can experiment. It's O.K."

But Walde strongly disagrees.

"It's quite dangerous and many harmful things can happen because you just completely lose sense of reality," she said.




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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk] * 1
    #505956 - 12/16/10 11:40 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

srsly? :rolleyes:

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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: psyberpunk]
    #505960 - 12/16/10 12:19 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The more easier solution is building houses without windows

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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: psyberpunk] * 1
    #505961 - 12/16/10 12:23 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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srsly? :rolleyes:



I know
She was obviously irresponsible to not have a trip sitter with her to stop her from jumping out the window.
Why do always hear about the couple people doing retarded stuff on psychedelics on national news?
and yet we hear almost nothing of the dood that shot some guy outside in a parking lot after drinking last night or the group of friends that got drunk and started a house on fire or the methhead that was smoking a cig while driving zooted, dropped it on himself and killed a family of four in a crash ... That is something that would be put on the local news...
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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk] * 1
    #505966 - 12/16/10 01:10 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

This dumb bitch smokes salvia without proper supervision and falls out of a window then calls Miley irresponsible? WTF!? Salvia didn't break her face, her stupidity did.


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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #505967 - 12/16/10 01:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

In this news story: A stupid bitch that jumped out of a window on salvia.

Am I the only person who experienced practical paralysis during their entire trip? I could barely move my fucking hand when I tripped, let alone jump out of a window.


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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #505971 - 12/16/10 01:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:huxleyfacepalm:

That is all.


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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #505974 - 12/16/10 01:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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psyberpunk said:
srsly? :rolleyes:



I know
She was obviously irresponsible to not have a trip sitting with her to stop her from jumping out the window.
Why do always hear about the couple people doing retarded stuff on psychedelics on national news?
and yet we hear almost nothing of the dood that shot some guy outside in a parking lot after drinking last night or the group of friends that got drunk and started a house on fire or the methhead that was smoking a cig while driving zooted, dropped it on himself and killed a family of four in a crash ... That is something that would be put on the local news...
:facepalm:




Exactly what I was thinking while reading the article. I don't have any sympathy for people that are just asking to get punished by psychedelics. And especially the one's that start to make it seem that they're OMGZ those DRUGS R DANGEROUS!!!, they make you go insANE!!!! Immediately after they have a bad trip or do something ridiculously stupid while tripping.

Bad trips imho are usually caused by the user's lack of understanding of what they're taking.

Follow the rules and you're practically guaranteed an awesome time :awecid:


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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: DRAGON]
    #505977 - 12/16/10 01:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

marked for a read after work.


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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #505987 - 12/16/10 02:08 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Am I the only person who experienced practical paralysis during their entire trip? I could barely move my fucking hand when I tripped, let alone jump out of a window.




Yeah, no shit.

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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: The_Philosophy]
    #506006 - 12/16/10 03:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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The more easier solution is building houses without windows





Such measures would never make it past Big Window

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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #506022 - 12/16/10 04:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I consider myself a Salvia survivor. That shit is intense.

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In this news story: A stupid bitch that jumped out of a window on salvia.

Am I the only person who experienced practical paralysis during their entire trip? I could barely move my fucking hand when I tripped, let alone jump out of a window.




+1 It makes my feet feel like they are glued to the ground, I don't think "jumping" would be possible.

Maybe stumbling out of an open window trying to cool down is more realistic.

Edited by DungenessDank (12/16/10 04:06 PM)

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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: DungenessDank]
    #506037 - 12/16/10 04:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I had a friend named Mike (RIP) who went fucking insane on the second floor of my house from a big salvia hit. He wasn't one to fake stuff or bullshit about drugs in any way either...so I believe what happened to him was real.

He took a big rip from my bong, and just started tearing everything down after about 3 minutes. Went fucking nuts, smashed a bunch of shelves and punched about 6 holes in my wall. It was almost like he was trying to get to the other side.

When he came to, he had no recollection of the event, and apologized like 100 times and helped pay for everything he broke. He wasn't a violent person either, something about that trip just made him snap.

But yeah, I get the super gravity effect as well. :shrug: Just sayin'.


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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: RasJeph]
    #506040 - 12/16/10 05:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

'holy I'm on Jupiter!"


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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #506049 - 12/16/10 05:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

People who freak out on Salvia make me laugh... sorry, I guess with SOME people, something is going to happen because they are "losing touch with reality" so to speak and the fact is... if you can't help your self in a state of un-reality... (as in no trip sitter to help you and NOT distract you and ya know... not being compltely dumb JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TRIPPED OUT; yeah believe it or not, there is this little thing up in your head called a brain... you can STILL USE IT.)


... Whatever, bottom-line is if you fucked yourself up on drugs. Your brain caused it before a freaking plant did... you can't just sit still and observe your mind while everything else around you is a blur? Can't understand that your memory and senses temporarily went out the window after taking A HIT OF A POWERFUL DRUG?


THEN DON'T TOUCH IT, or better yet, don't even make reference to the Salvia experience ever again.


I don't care if Sally gets banned everywhere.... really, all I would hope to see is some who is partially ignorant to something to LEAVE IT ALONE for the time being.

Sometimes, idiots stoop to so low as to try and ruin another idea, that they simply don't share. These people would be killed if this another (earlier) time. What? Do they think that this is the prime time; they finally get to fight for any stupid opinion they have to core? FUCK IDIOTS.

well, we can all be idiots... but I don't know where idocy and stupidity and plain ol' dumbness begins and ends.

I mean, we all have faults... lets not stoop so low as to find comfort within those faults.

ARGh

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Idiot survives irresponsible drug use and lives to ruin it for everyone. [Re: eNtranceAsexit]
    #506050 - 12/16/10 05:58 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Fixed.


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Re: Idiot survives irresponsible drug use and lives to ruin it for everyone. [Re: drawde] * 1
    #506123 - 12/17/10 01:04 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

the media has the power to magnify little events like that and make it seem like genocide while real world events are overshadowed

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Re: Idiot survives irresponsible drug use and lives to ruin it for everyone. [Re: auronlives69]
    #506124 - 12/17/10 01:10 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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the media has the power to magnify little events like that and make it seem like genocide while real world events are overshadowed



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Re: Idiot survives irresponsible drug use and lives to ruin it for everyone. [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #506126 - 12/17/10 01:47 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for keeping us posted on the current surge of salvia madness dr. s

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Re: Idiot survives irresponsible drug use and lives to ruin it for everyone. [Re: auronlives69]
    #506143 - 12/17/10 09:26 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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thanks for keeping us posted on the current surge of salvia madness dr. s



Ah no problem.
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Re: Idiot survives irresponsible drug use and lives to ruin it for everyone. [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #509352 - 12/27/10 11:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I heard that salvia was an intense hallucinogenic experience, so i treated it like my mushy tripz, and tried to find a chill relaxing location to smoke. my friends before me said they tripped out bad, aaaand thought that the walls of the house were sticking to them.....i smoked it in the woods. i kind of want it to be banned, its reckless to let the public have access....only cause its to fucking intense, well with a torch lighter anyways muahahahah

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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk] * 2
    #509414 - 12/28/10 10:34 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with Timothy Leary's perspective on this: the only way to avoid is with proper education.  I think people should be taught while young how to operate their bodies and the truth about what certain substances will do. 

Prohibition and ignorance are why the majority of these events happen.  Its really not a mystery.


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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: CrayolaHalls]
    #509417 - 12/28/10 10:55 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I agree.


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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #509422 - 12/28/10 11:31 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

jumping out of a 3rd story window. that's why it's getting illegal.

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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #509424 - 12/28/10 11:51 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Justice_Fish] * 1
    #509428 - 12/28/10 12:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Your lucky this is TSL my fishy friend.

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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #509450 - 12/28/10 02:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I hope she gets hit by a bus when she gets out of the hospital holding a mcdonalds latte and a big mac..., Then we can outlaw mikky d's and public transportation, or she falls down the stairs cuz her shoes were untied, then we can ban shoe laces.

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Re: Salvia survivor calls Miley Cyrus irresponsible [Re: Big_tiggy]
    #509506 - 12/28/10 07:46 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

So people are more pissed about a teen that smoked it and did nothing out of the ordinary, than a chick that jumps out of a fucking window?


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    #509556 - 12/28/10 10:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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    #509593 - 12/28/10 10:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think it should a rite of passage. Whoever doesn't fall the window gets to say they are smart enough to live.

The other people are the other team... they get to goad you on. :rolleyes:

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