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how often should one water peyote?
    #50423 - 06/04/08 12:20 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

let's say, living in a climate such as florida?


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #50778 - 06/04/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Well cacti can go months without water... So make sure its not outside in the elements during hurricane season.

Basically to grow cacti you 1) put them in shitty soil 2) dont water them 3) treat them like shit

lol

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: implee]
    #50919 - 06/04/08 07:09 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

ehhhh

not exactly, but close enough, you CAN do all that.

but you can put them in good soil, water them with some cactus fertilizer once in awhile, and if you water them too much you treat them like shit and they die.

but putting a cactus in good soil will get better growth than bad soil.


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #50994 - 06/04/08 08:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Im not sure about Peyote specifically but for my Pedros I water them usually 2-3 times a week under a full Arizona sun with temperatures around 100 degrees being the norm right now.

I use Shultz cactus fertilizer as well and use it with each watering as directed. My lady is doing great and very strong. The roots have taken hold well and she has become very solid.

Peyote would probably demand a little less water, maybe once a week or even bi-weekly but thats just a guess.

My cactus love a nice, rich soil. Good Luck!

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Picklez]
    #51006 - 06/04/08 08:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

whoa!!

3 times a week?!?!???!? and your cactus don't split? if I water my peruvian torchs once a week even after a few months they'll split!

crazy


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #51045 - 06/04/08 08:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

what do you mean, split?

Also keep in mine how hot it is here. If I was back on the east coast I would probably only water them once a week.

She loves the 2-3 times a week waterings and is doing very good with the fertilizer also

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Picklez]
    #51082 - 06/04/08 08:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

cactus:homeless camels like token:______

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: token]
    #51135 - 06/04/08 09:15 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Monthly. Just let them to there thing.

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: highasfuck]
    #51148 - 06/04/08 09:17 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I wish I had me a couple L. Williamsii :sad:

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Picklez]
    #51306 - 06/04/08 10:19 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
I wish I had me a couple L. Williamsii :sad:




check this out! I thought it was illegal to obtain peyote seeds in the U.S.

www.vancouverseedbank.ca


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #51312 - 06/04/08 10:21 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It is still illegal to cultivate in the states

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Picklez]
    #51434 - 06/05/08 12:37 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

LOL, you said you wanted to get your hands on some. Well, there's the deal. You can't CULTIVATE cannabis in the united states, but you can BUY the seeds, eh?


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #51826 - 06/05/08 04:43 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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LOL, you said you wanted to get your hands on some. Well, there's the deal. You can't CULTIVATE cannabis in the united states, but you can BUY the seeds, eh?


No... you cant buy seeds. Tard.

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: highasfuck]
    #52093 - 06/05/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

dude, hint hint

you can :wink: BUY the seeds from :wink:THAT site. I ALREADY DID IT :wink:;);););)


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #55602 - 06/11/08 01:19 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

water peyote about 3 or 4 days after sand has *completly* dried out.  here i water 2 times a week cause its hot.  winter i water water about once every 1-2 weeks and it never dips below 10 C.

good luck!

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Ganoderma]
    #55742 - 06/11/08 05:35 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

thanks, I never understand why people tell me you can water your cactus more than once a week if even once a week when I've seen overwatered cactus so common a dillemna.

Oh well, thanks for the advice


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #56095 - 06/11/08 10:24 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

its because of climate.  i can water my peyote 3 times a week no problem and not see rot....that is because mine are growing outside in full sun year round and i use a good mix.

lots of people use "cacti mix" which have peat and other organic crap in it that is not good....with these kinds of mixes, you water lots you rot lots.

my trichocereus are planted in ground outside and we jsut had 2 weeks of non stop heavy rain (about 80cm total) and they dont have so much as a brown mark :smile:  but lophs (and pretty much any cactus with a large tap root) needs to have a good dry between watering and does not like spongy substrates (ie peat, wood bits, large clumps of poo type fertilizers etc)

hope that helps :smile:

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #56114 - 06/11/08 10:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Iamasmoker said:
thanks, I never understand why people tell me you can water your cactus more than once a week if even once a week when I've seen overwatered cactus so common a dillemna.

Oh well, thanks for the advice




Just as the above poster said, its going to vary from climate to climate. I too water my cactus 2-3 times per week without problems, usually give it 1/2 gallon per watering

As someone else said the best way is to water the catcus, allow the soil to dry out and after its been dry for a couple of days, water them again.

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Ganoderma]
    #56125 - 06/11/08 10:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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its because of climate.  i can water my peyote 3 times a week no problem and not see rot....that is because mine are growing outside in full sun year round and i use a good mix.

lots of people use "cacti mix" which have peat and other organic crap in it that is not good....with these kinds of mixes, you water lots you rot lots.

my trichocereus are planted in ground outside and we jsut had 2 weeks of non stop heavy rain (about 80cm total) and they dont have so much as a brown mark :smile:  but lophs (and pretty much any cactus with a large tap root) needs to have a good dry between watering and does not like spongy substrates (ie peat, wood bits, large clumps of poo type fertilizers etc)

hope that helps :smile:




yeah, I guess it does, I don't remember what substrate I used, maybe it was spongy.

probably


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #60103 - 06/18/08 02:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

the old guy in the zoo said that i have to water her only if the soil is bone dry. and so i do. she's about 4 yrs old and already have two lil babies on her side.

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: macska]
    #64318 - 06/23/08 12:30 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I love the idea of growing peyote, just the amount of patents you have to have is horrid. I would so kill mine trying to make it grow faster.


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: freepain]
    #64358 - 06/23/08 01:35 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

buy a san pedro that grows a lil bit faster.

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: freepain]
    #64453 - 06/23/08 08:08 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I love the idea of growing peyote, just the amount of patents you have to have is horrid. I would so kill mine trying to make it grow faster.




lol that's what i always do with weed, fucking end up killing it trying to make it grow faster. LMAO i am not good with THAT shit

expensive seeds, easily overwatered, doesn't grow big, doesn't bud much in the fall

LMAO fuck it dude, i hate it sometimes


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: macska]
    #74716 - 07/07/08 11:21 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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let's say, living in a climate such as florida?





If it's really hot :sun: and not very humid, and the plant is a large well rooted Lophophora "Peyote" than it can take weekly waters, it will also flower and fruit like mad...

But if its cool or the plants are taken out of direct sunlight, or the plants are small or not well rooted they need to be water very infrequently. During the winter(if it's cold) you should not water them at all...


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: macska]
    #87412 - 07/19/08 12:16 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I water loph's about once every two months, with cactus ferts (shultz), Use good sandy soils, well, u can zoom in here:


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: jeetered]
    #138898 - 10/31/08 08:10 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

that one in the bottom left corner looks like its gonna clone itself:D how is it possible?:D:D

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: implee]
    #139118 - 11/01/08 07:07 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

implee said:
Well cacti can go months without water... So make sure its not outside in the elements during hurricane season.

Basically to grow cacti you 1) put them in shitty soil 2) dont water them 3) treat them like shit

lol




it's true if you're looking for higher alkaloid %

if you're not then saturate them every time the soil gets completely dry.


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: neepling]
    #141839 - 11/06/08 07:10 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

how much mescaline can you produce say, for instance 1 san pedro or 1 peyote cacti?

the average span of maturity for san pedo is 3+ years and peyote is six? am I close?


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: t0ad]
    #141927 - 11/06/08 09:33 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

peyote can mature in ~2yrs if grafted

and not very much mescaline from peyote I hear you need to eat several (5-10 buttons) to get a desired effect.


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: captain.koons]
    #141940 - 11/06/08 09:59 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

unless you can get L-Dopa to inject them with :wink:


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: neepling]
    #141942 - 11/06/08 10:01 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

what's that shizz?


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: captain.koons]
    #142094 - 11/07/08 05:06 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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peyote can mature in ~2yrs if grafted

and not very much mescaline from peyote I hear you need to eat several (5-10 buttons) to get a desired effect.




to my understanding peyote is stronger per size than san pedro and mescaline comes from these cactii through acid extractions either hydrochloride, sulfite, or citric type acids and mescaline sulfate is 11% heavier than mescaline hydrochloride meaning you need 11% MORE to get the same desired effect.


Mescaline is a psychadelic found in these cactii


and how does thos peyote in 2 years works? any teks on it?


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: t0ad]
    #142114 - 11/07/08 09:12 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

you graph the peyote onto a root stock so it matures faster by having a more developed or advanced root system.

peyote is far stronger than the trich species but it grows much slower and smaller.


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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: captain.koons]
    #143712 - 11/11/08 06:13 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

There are many grafting teks at the Shroomery.

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #163528 - 12/16/08 02:27 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)



All those lophs(and several more I have yet to photograph) get watered when the soil drys out (6-10 days). Only light waterings in the winter. Not all cacti can be treated this way during the winter. There is lots of good advice on cacti to be found in the ethnobotanical garden forum at shroomery.org. I didn't even know you guys were talking about cacti over here. I guess I have some catching up to do :shrug:

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: ethnoguy]
    #181911 - 01/14/09 09:41 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)



That's my baby loph, I have tons of other cacti here (mostly tricho's)

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Re: how often should one water peyote? [Re: HellDragon]
    #182046 - 01/15/09 04:24 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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