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 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics 
#498130 - 11/15/10 12:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I originally started posting in Doctors Diagnosis because I had a few problems at first. Since I'm new at this (aside from a half-assed, half-hearted closet trial) I decided to post my grow journal because I know I'm going to need a lot more help along the way. So here goes:
12 SLH from seed (fem)
FF nutes per their schedule
Ph 6.0
1000w MH for veg/ 1000w hps for flower
Lights 18/6
Temp 80F
No ppm/EC meter
Seeds:
Germinated in paper towel, 100% germination, transferred with tweezers to 1" rockwool (cut in half), hydroton, 3" net pots. Directly under MH, about 4' so they wouldn't get burned. (Actually, the first 8 days or so they were stuffed in a closet while we waited for a repairman who could never show up on time - so they are a little bit off schedule).
The system:
(2) 4"x6' fence post
Reservoir, water pump, tubing, fish tank bubbler, timer.
Venting right out the basement window
Still need to get the carbon filter up and running. Using a 4" inline fan right now but I don't think it is going to do the job when the filter is installed.
End of Week 3
This is when I originally posted to Doctors Diagnosis. They were looking really wimpy, had curled leaves, brown tips, purple stems. With some expert advice I think I'm finally back on track.
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/495896
Seven Days Later (Today)
Watering every two hours except over night. Gluttons are drinking about a gallon a day now.
Now comes the questions:
Worried about vertical space. Right now the light is about 3 feet over the canopy, I can raise it another two feet or so. Not sure how much longer to wait before I flip the lights. Plants are at about 9-10" I can always tie them down I suppose. Root balls are pretty massive but not plugging up the rails yet, but future growth is definitely a concern.
To clone or not to clone:
12 SLH seeds and every single plant is different. I didn't realize that they would be so diverse coming from the same strain. Lesson learned. So I will need a minimum of 12 clones to refill the system (plus extras in case of loss). Obviously I would want to take them from the best plant which, aside from growth patterns, I have no way of knowing which one it's going to be before harvest. Not to mention I don't want to butcher one plant for all the cuttings I am going to need. I know the best time to take them is now before flowering. But I am a little at a loss as to how I should proceed. Also, after my last experiment, I am a little remiss about shoving them in a closet for six weeks while the other plants flower. Though after reading several cloning posts and some expert advice, I'm told they will be just fine. Any additional insight would be most welcome. Oh yes, I also have some seeds left so maybe I should just start a designated mother plant.
Well all, thanks for looking. Let me know what you think.
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 Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#498150 - 11/15/10 05:58 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great set-up and great plants! haha and you spoil them with a 1000 watt HPS and MH 
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: jkell]
#498179 - 11/15/10 08:03 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#498400 - 11/16/10 12:44 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looking a little better all the time I think (except for the one little straggler on the end). I tied the two biggest plants down so the canopy would be even in height all around.
Yet another fine use for duct-tape.
Well the dreaded leaf curl came back, I think I fucked something up topping off the tank. It only happens to the one stupid plant (the one I had to tie down). I changed my tank again tonight and corrected for any imbalances so hopefully this will fix the problem as it seemed to before.
Still waiting on any suggestions when to flip the light. I did some more reading and If I understand correctly, one should be finished training the plants before they go into flowering. So my concern is how much vertical growth to expect so I don't have to tie anymore during flowering. I am keeping the light pretty cool with the exhaust but I guess I need about 18" clearance to keep from burning the plants.
I think I'm going to give it one more week in veg - maybe longer? I don't want to sell myself short either.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#498756 - 11/17/10 01:26 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anybody out there? Next time I'm gonna name my thread Blow-Job, Blow-Job, Blow-Job. That ought to bring you bastards running 
OK so I guess its trial by fire. I'll keep studying and growing and praying to the plant gods. I suppose since I haven't killed anything yet I'm handling matters ok. I'll keep posting too though I'm starting to think I'm talking to myself - maybe I'll offer a titty shot to the grower who helps me the most (after browsing the Smoke Lounge I know how you guys operate). They are pretty impressive... 
So todays update: The little be-otches keep growing overnight, so I tied a few more down. It is amazing how they twist themselves upright in a just a few hours. I've got a lot of good grow tips already after topping them a couple of weeks ago. Tying the main branches down has certainly exposed the younger tips to more light, though they do not seem to be suffering in anyway under the 1000w. Hopefully I'll have a few more grow out before I flip the lights, which I'll probably do in about 5 days or so.
I still have curly leaf syndrome with the one plant, hasn't hindered growth any, but I have a sneaking suspicion it is going to commit suicide sooner or later.
All for now.
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 Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#498757 - 11/17/10 01:33 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Forgot to mention: Anyone out there using Fox Farm in their hydro? My dizzy gals used to smell like sweet citrus now they smell like moo-poo. I know I'm supposed to flush before harvest so please tell me they are not going to taste like a cattle farm when I'm done.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#498759 - 11/17/10 01:40 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Haha crazy how the plants grow at night, who woulda thunk? but on a more serious note I haven't really seen many hydro grows with FF always thought that was more of a soil thing, but what do I know? Good luck man, and know I'm still watching 
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 Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#499116 - 11/18/10 12:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just a little update to keep this thread alive. Got to start thinking of clones asap.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#499211 - 11/18/10 04:28 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yummy, I can't remember if you've said this or not, but you gonna send those babies to 12/12 soon?
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: jkell]
#499286 - 11/18/10 08:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
jkell said:
Yummy, I can't remember if you've said this or not, but you gonna send those babies to 12/12 soon?
Yeah, I was hoping someone would chime in and give me an idea of how big I can expect them to get before I run out of vertical space. So I decided to give them a few more days of veg since they got off to a slow start. Most likely I'm gonna flip them this weekend - that will be five weeks of veg time, just one week over schedule.
I've got to take some clones soon to but I am not quite prepared. Should have that setup going by the weekend.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#499289 - 11/18/10 08:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah this weekend sounds good. I would just take the clones whenever you get the equipment (which from your post sounds like this weekend) and flip em after that. You can at least expect em to double in size from veg so looks like your gonna have a great harvest 
Edited by jkell (11/18/10 08:48 PM)
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 Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: jkell]
#499394 - 11/19/10 10:38 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey jKell, I think I'm screwed. Just discovered roots growing out my drain pipe. I know large root systems are a good thing, but I'm afraid now that the system is going to get clogged before all is said and done
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#499643 - 11/20/10 11:29 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looking good man, nice even canopy and all filled in!
I'm no expert on ebb & flow, but I think you can trim roots if they get out of hand. Might give them a bit of a shock for a couple days. Research more before taking that advice. (P.S. I love your ghetto setup, it looks quite effective and surprisingly neat and clean!)
And yeah, 5 weeks of veg should be plenty. If they weren't fem seeds, I'd say wait until they're all showing sex and cull the males. Since they're ladies, you probably can flip it whenever you want, but from what I've seen they respond more quickly to flowering cycles when they're already mature (alternating nodes, showing sex).
Don't lose heart, keep updating if only for your own records in the future.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: God]
#499733 - 11/20/10 07:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks God. I paid about $110 to put the whole thing together (excluding lights of course), the most expensive part was the pump and the timer I must say I probably wasted a little money trying to find the best glue to adhere the flexible pipe to the vinyl fence post. In the end it was my stupid $5 glue gun that I found stuffed in a closet somewhere that worked the best.
I'm going to modify the system a bit next go around (providing I don't have to abort the mission due to clogged pipes), I will probably do four 4-foot rails instead of two 6-foot so I will get better light distribution. That will also add space for an extra four plants.
I've got to modify my "drain" system a bit too. The plastic funnels splash on occasion. I suppose I should bite the bullet, cap the open ends and install a real drain, but the open end allows me to peek inside to see how the roots are making out. I can also pop out the dam for easy cleanup of debris.
I also would like to find a shallower/shorter reservoir so I can lower the rails closer to the floor. This will give me a little more vertical space.
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 Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#500020 - 11/21/10 11:21 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Budget clone cabinet:
OK cut my clones. Hope this freekin works. CFLs 24/7, rockwool, hydroton, solo cups, and duct tape. Got six extras just in case. Somehow I feel really bad for cutting up my poopsies like this, though I probably could have taken fifty cuttings if I needed to. Just trusting that you guys know your stuff.
Changed my reservoir, flushed the system, and switched the lights over. Tomorrow will be officially flower day 1. Wish me luck.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#500087 - 11/22/10 11:58 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update:
Switched the lights to 12/12 (as mentioned) but I also switched the MH for the HPS bulb which I have discovered is nowhere near as hot as the MH. The MH was keeping the space a nice 80F whereas the HPS is maintaining at about 72F. This may be a problem shortly as the temperature is really beginning to drop here at night. May have to throw a space heater in or something (more electricity--ARG!) Not to mention
it will probably screw with my humidity levels and what little fresh air there is in the basement. Could probably throw the heater on a timer just to come on at night for a few hours.
The clone closet is maintaining between 72-78F so I think it will be ok for now.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#500164 - 11/22/10 07:23 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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The WalMart near me has an aisle of seasonal stuff... like heaters and window sealers. I was just checking out some of the new heaters. They had at least one model that had the ability to put out moisture too. It had a water reservoir. I didn't need one, so I did not look at it very closely. Might be worth taking a look there if you have not already.
Another idea would be to just get a traditional warm mist humidifier and have it come on for a few minutes every couple hours at night.
Good luck.
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#500301 - 11/23/10 11:33 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just a quick update:
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: CrayolaHalls]
#500302 - 11/23/10 11:35 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
CrayolaHalls said:
The WalMart near me has an aisle of seasonal stuff... like heaters and window sealers. I was just checking out some of the new heaters. They had at least one model that had the ability to put out moisture too. It had a water reservoir. I didn't need one, so I did not look at it very closely. Might be worth taking a look there if you have not already.
Another idea would be to just get a traditional warm mist humidifier and have it come on for a few minutes every couple hours at night.
Good luck.
Gotta love Wally-World, even if it is the Evil Empire. Will check it out this payday. Thanks.
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#500375 - 11/23/10 06:19 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update:
Still have the one curly-leaved PIA, you can see it in the lower right-hand corner of the last picture I posted. I have a theory that due to the slope gradient of the rail, that particular plant is getting bombarded with too much nutrient as it is right at the drain end of the system. Dunno, just a thought.
The clones are hanging in there. Must have done something right because they don't look like they are dying or anything.
I'm also thinking that vegging that extra week might have been too much, its a jungle down there, looks like a scene from Apocalypse Now. The 1000w seems to be doing fine reaching under the canopy, they are all really bushy. Don't know if this is a good thing. Thought I might trim the under foliage but it is perfectly green and healthy so I'll just leave well enough alone for now.
I'm starting to get the how-much-am-I-going-to-yield fever. Just keep trying to put that out of my mind, still too much that can go wrong the next few weeks.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#500730 - 11/25/10 12:30 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ain't lying when I tell you these plants are averaging 2" or more a day. Like holy-fuck, can't sing the praises of 1000w enough. I suppose I should give some credit to Fox Farm as well. Anyway, the proof of the pudding, etc, I'll post some more pics soon. I'm probably going to have to hang a net or something to keep them from falling over later. Well happy Turkey Day  Go Pats!
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#500739 - 11/25/10 01:15 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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god damn that is epic, looks dope man, i'll be watching 
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: shasha]
#501022 - 11/26/10 07:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update Flower Wk 1 (day 4):
Gotta go deal with a small leak on the floor
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#501277 - 11/27/10 07:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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A moment of silence for my clones please.....
Dunno, maybe they will pull through. They were looking good until today when I noticed they have all taken on a decidedly lemon-yellow color. Think I read somewhere that this means they are putting it all into root production..I think it looks like jaundice and death. My kind of luck. Honestly, I should have been more prepared and made a DWC or aeroponic cloner or something. Was only thinking about the present grow and not the future, live and learn man.
Had to raise the light today, that's all she wrote, no more vertical space and 8-10 weeks to go. The HPS runs pretty cool though so I still have a few feet of grow space. I raised it all the way up because two plants on the corners were starting to get left behind. May have to hang some supplemental CFLs or something.
We knew the SLH was going to be a tall plant but no one on the East Coast (in my circle of friends anyway) has ever tried the stuff. Apparently it is a popular smoke in the Vegas area. So having won the Cannibus Cup so many times we couldn't resist trying it. I did some topping early on and LST midway through but the hight of these things is starting to get out of hand for the space that I have. Will see what happens in the end before making any judgments about growing it again.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#501280 - 11/27/10 08:15 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very nice man, Ill be watching.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Shroomofdoom]
#501623 - 11/29/10 10:51 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update Week 2:
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#501768 - 11/29/10 10:39 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update:
Clones seem to be rallying a bit. Definitely getting some root growth now. I think the temp was getting too high in the cabinet and they had dried out. Gave them a small soaking and they look like they are doing better. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Starting to get little hairies on the mommas going into week 2 of flower. Never did get the filter running, my basement stinks to high heaven. Gonna get a new vortex fan next time around.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#502207 - 12/01/10 12:23 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quick Update:
JFC! Gonna have to move into a barn before much longer. These plants are growing ridiculously fast and tall. The system is still operating amazingly well, I have massive roots but no clogs to date (knock on wood). I know you are not supposed to train during flowering but if anyone has any suggestions about controlling the hight of these suckers it would be most appreciated.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#502236 - 12/01/10 06:55 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Goombah said:
Quick Update:
JFC! Gonna have to move into a barn before much longer. These plants are growing ridiculously fast and tall. The system is still operating amazingly well, I have massive roots but no clogs to date (knock on wood). I know you are not supposed to train during flowering but if anyone has any suggestions about controlling the hight of these suckers it would be most appreciated.
I have the same problem when it comes to hydro/aeroponics, a good way to combat your plants from stretching is to place your light on ropes (or chains ect.) and follow the height of your plants rather then having a stationary light.
Edited by mikehauncho (12/01/10 06:56 AM)
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: mikehauncho]
#502756 - 12/03/10 10:56 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks Mike, I had no stretch at all until they went into flower, now they are absolute monsters. My light is 18" above the tallest plant now and I don't see any signs of things slowing down. Gotta come up with a plan soon or the tops are going to get burned
Update on clones: They're not only merely dead, they're really most severely dead. Too much temperature fluctuation in my cabinet I think. Oh well, try, try again. So at this point I either have to get more beans for the next go around or try re-vegging the mothers after harvest.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#502757 - 12/03/10 11:03 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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New Pic:
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#502795 - 12/03/10 02:39 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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dope!
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: shasha]
#503262 - 12/05/10 06:06 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Going into Week 3 Flower:
Never thought I'd get plants this huge in 3" net pots. Yikes!
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#503278 - 12/05/10 06:46 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I experienced my first stretching problem, I tied the tops down to hooks on the ground.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: muse42]
#503316 - 12/05/10 11:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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I tied them down once during vegging just to keep the canopy uniform, I never had a stretching problem until I switched the lights to 12/12. I also went from MH to HPS at that time. Will tying them down during flower hurt the plant? I was under the impression that you should not train during flowering. Anyone have any thoughts on this, I am running out of head space fast. I expect the tallest shoot is going to hit the light in the next 24-48hrs, and I have at least 8 weeks left to go!
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#503317 - 12/05/10 11:29 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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I know people say not to train in flower because you want all the plants energy going into bud production instead of focusing on recovery. Doesn't seem like you really have much of an option right now though. And my guess is that the sooner you train into flower the better. Goodluck Goombah and those plants are looking great man
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: jkell]
#503387 - 12/06/10 12:35 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't consider it training plus if you have no choice it is better than something like topping. I don't damage any part of the plant just tie the top down with one string.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: muse42]
#503401 - 12/06/10 02:21 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah tying down seems like the least stress to me and it give me great results. LST fo life
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: jkell]
#504082 - 12/08/10 08:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Clone Update:
So I decided to get off my lazy ass tonight and give the clones a proper burial since I pulled the plug on them a few days ago. Low and behold six of them have big root systems and new growth amidst all the dead leaves  PSYCH! So my 1/3 success rate needs improvement but at least all is not lost, it was a pleasant surprise.
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: Goombah]
#504144 - 12/09/10 01:02 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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NICE!
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: muse42]
#504159 - 12/09/10 01:30 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha Christmas came early!!
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Re: 1000w Super Lemon Haze, Cheepo Flood-Drain Hydro, FF, Pics [Re: jkell]
#510045 - 12/30/10 08:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Update:
Sorry no pics. My computer is fried and presently I'm sneeking this post from the back room at work.
Going into flower week six, got massive fist-sized buds all over (promise I'll get some pics soon) but having a few issues:
First of all, I have a lot of yellowing fan leaves toward the middle of each plant. At first I figured that this was probably normal as it is autum after all in their little world. Then I discovered I'm having massive ph issues I never had before in the veg stage. Every day the ph jumps up to the 8.0 range. I don't have an EC meter and I'm clueless why this keeps happening. Usually the nutes drop the ph of my tap water to about 6.5 then I add some ph down for a ph of 6. Then POOF overnight it is back up to 8.0 WTF. My uneducated guess is that the plants are sucking up all the nutes thus raising the ph. Dunno. Anyone have any thoughts on this subject?
The good news is that they are loooking great, starting to get some brown haries. I expect to be harvesting in about 2 weeks.
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 BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!!! [Re: Goombah]
#565255 - 06/17/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Holy Crap - back online - I finally feel like a human being again! First my laptop broke, then my tower broke, then my car broke. WTF. Six months to dig myself out of financial bullshit.ACK! Anyway, If anyone ever wondered about the finale of this grow log here it is at long last:
      
Total weight 6oz plus. Used easily another 2oz of popcorn that I was too lazy to trim for acetone hash.
Since this log was my first grow (I'm into my third at this point) I wanted to share some lessons that I think I have learned:
1. Fox Farm nutrients clogged my system on more than one occasion, but having since tried other products, I can say that they are worth the added hassle. The end results are so much better and I have had really bad ph stability issues with the other brands.
2. Got my EC meter with the proceeds from the first grow, worth every penny. Saves money in the long run by knowing exactly how much nute is in the tank and reduces the frequency of water changes.
3. Not sure that hydro plants are good candidates for SCROG method. I haven't tried it yet but the stalks get quite hollow and rigid, don't think they would have the flexibility to bend without snapping. I would like to try SCROG eventually as it would be nice to have an even canopy for uniform light coverage at the grow tips.
4. Super Lemon Haze is a ridiculously incredible plant. Those suckers took a beating over 11 wks, still grew baseball-sized buds under less than ideal conditions, and floored all my smoking friends on the first hit. Massively sticky and pungent I can see why this plant won so many awards.
5. Comparatively, my second grow was White Widow. Even having a little more experience under my belt, this plant was a PIA. Wimpy suckers. I had an OK crop in the end but this plant would drop leaves if you farted next to it. Definitely did not do well in my hydro system, it didn't tolerate 1/8th of the nutrient content I was able to blast the SLH with. Plants were much smaller, buds longer and less compact. Still a good smoke but the yield was lousy.
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Re: BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!!! [Re: Goombah]
#565309 - 06/18/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks good/healthy
Looks like they had a little more heat than they wanted though 
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