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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: God]
    #496045 - 11/07/10 05:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Pictures aren't great but there is some yellowing in person. Its on the inside of the leaves though and didnt start from the outside in what else could it be? And if you take a look at the second pic does that tip look burned?

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #496172 - 11/08/10 12:23 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks guys, I plan on transplating her pretty soon because she's already got a root coming out the bottom, I'll prob wait for a few more to show first though.





The tap root penetrates the bottom of your container long before the plant is actually rooted.


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P.S. I also think my plant sexed female, is it too early to tell and I'm just making things up or could it actually be true?




Show pictures of what you're seeing.

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Also I'm not going to be around this weekend, do you guys think its alright if I give her a nice watering fri (today) at around noon then take off for the weekend and check on her on Sun morning?





You should know better than anyone how long until that cube dries out.

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@Inbred. You think a stronger solution? This is my first grow so I haven't really been able to gauge nutes very well and I don't wanna burn her but I'll give it a try. Right now I'm feeding her the 1 tsp/gallon GH Floragro mixture. I think the next step up is 3 tsp/gal




Why would you think you need to go from 1tsp to 3? Floragro also isn't a complete nutrient solution you need the Micro (especially the micro!) and the bloom.

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: maryanne3087]
    #496334 - 11/08/10 12:07 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The back of the Floragro bottle says to go from 1tsp to 3tsp per gallon, so thats where I got that from.

I cant get any pictures of what I was seeing cause my camera isnt that good, but after further research I've concluded it wasn't pistils I was seeing so still no sex.

Thanks for the reply man I got some of that Microgro and added it together with the floragro and fed her hopefully she perks up then because she's looking a little wilty/sickly

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #496379 - 11/08/10 02:16 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Pistils this early would be a surprise.  Give it a few more weeks at least.

It's such a small amount, it's hard to tell if it's burning or something else like, N-def.  Even if it is burning, that much isn't a problem; I actually aim for that some of the time, once my plants get a bit older, so I know what their limits are.  I try to feed just enough to keep them from burning, but a little here and there is fine.

Good call on the Micro, too.  maryanne knows what's up.

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: God]
    #496438 - 11/08/10 06:02 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah use the dull side of foil,hp lets plants absorb more oxygen and is a great fungicide,go to www.using-hydrogen peroxide.com

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #496459 - 11/08/10 06:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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jkell said:
The back of the Floragro bottle says to go from 1tsp to 3tsp per gallon, so thats where I got that from.

Thanks for the reply man I got some of that Microgro and added it together with the floragro and fed her hopefully she perks up then because she's looking a little wilty/sickly




The bottle listing 1tsp and 3tsp per gal is just a guideline. This is to go from seedling to strong vegetative growth for example. You should increase your PPM gradually. For what it's worth I grow trees with 750 PPM nutrient solution which is the equivalent of 6 ml of each grow micro and bloom, or 6 ml micro 9 ml bloom. I checked the run off of a couple of plants I had been feeding 1100-1300ppm nutrient solution and the run off was very high so I think I'm going to stick to my less is more strategy.

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: maryanne3087]
    #496489 - 11/08/10 08:16 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I don't have a ppm meter at the moment it in the mail and should be here sometimes this week.

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #496539 - 11/09/10 01:15 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Regardless of having a PPM meter or not, you shouldn't increase feeding dose rapidly IMO.

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: maryanne3087]
    #496543 - 11/09/10 01:50 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Alright I'll remember that for next time, Luckily it appears that the plant loved the higher dose of nutes and the addition of the Micro it definitely perked up a bit.

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #496594 - 11/09/10 11:08 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I felt the same way slamming my plants with higher concentrations but then I got deficiencies and high EC run off. Your results may vary but I don't see a difference feeding lower EC other than less problems and using less nutrients.

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: maryanne3087]
    #496596 - 11/09/10 11:16 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'm pretty baked right now EC means...?

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #496621 - 11/09/10 01:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

EC = electric conductivity

It's a measure of nutrient concentration less that doesn't get confused with conversions like TDS and PPM where people don't include the conversion factor they use which results in very inaccurate readings. For example some people use .64 which would make 1EC 640 PPM, .5 for TDS which makes 1EC 500 TDS, or .7 which would make 700PPM. Most people report TDS as .5 but EC seems to vary between .64 and .7 commonly and .5 not as commonly.

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: maryanne3087]
    #496637 - 11/09/10 02:08 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Update:

Looks like my plant had toxic salt buildups as i had the "Claw" effect on almost all my leaves with slight discoloration, I think it locked the nutes out, so I gave it a flush with a gallon of distilled pure water and I'll leave it for the night, hopefully it unclaws itself by tomorrow.

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #496869 - 11/10/10 03:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Any update on the clawing situation?  When it's time to water again next, feed it what you were originally feeding.  Then, each time you feed after that, step it up a bit.  So if you're starting with 1 tsp/gal, go up to 1.5 tsp and make sure the plant can handle it before moving up some more.
If 3 tsp is for plants in strong vegetative growth, it's too much for a seedling like yours, it needs a few more weeks for that.  2 tsp/gal should be plenty for now, and you might need less if you're feeding micro too (which you should be).  Just take things slow, experiment, and see how she likes it.  Like a first date!

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: God]
    #496957 - 11/10/10 08:40 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Hey God, nothing really so far. they aren't looking great but they're hanging in there. Im trying to hold off a little bit on the water and feeding until I get my ph adjuster, ph tested, and ppm tester in the mail so i can get this back on track. Becuase unfortunately I think the flushes I was doing might have been doing more harm than good because i flush with Distilled drinking water (In 1 gal jugs) and aren't those adjusted to a 7 ph usually?

Keep posting away guys. I'll try to get some new pics up soon

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #496990 - 11/10/10 09:34 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Alright guys got my ppm meter and tested my "aggressive veg mix" and it was 995 ppm. wow so anyways what strength do you guys think i should mix up for my plant?

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #496994 - 11/10/10 09:39 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

pH is so important.  You have been feeding it this whole time not knowing the pH or your water?

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: muse42]
    #497003 - 11/10/10 10:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah It should arrive tomorrow thought I was gonna have it earlier but w/e and from what I've read Ph isn't hugely important for getting seedlings going anyways

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #497062 - 11/11/10 09:24 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Got a bad feeling about this guys she's looking sickly I hope she makes it. Also looks like I might have a little insect problem on my hands. I'll be posting pics later today.

And mold problem

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Re: First time grower, Single plant. Could use some experienced eyes [Re: jkell]
    #497640 - 11/13/10 10:30 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

great pics  :bow2:

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